Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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With each passing day he is sounding more and more like Rafa. 
Does he ever stop crying? He's so cool and funny when things go his way but when that changes he becomes this tiresome moaning cnut who can't stop crying and finding new excuses for his team poor form.
Why is he surprised ? He has been like that for a long time, moaning and nothing else.
so which one is it? Their success is comparable or Klopp has been more successful according to you. It can't be both you know!
I don't think Klopp and Benitez are comparable personally. Maybe if you're looking at their Champions League records they are, but in the Premier League they aren't. Klopp's signings have been better, he's created a comparably strong defense, he's had us playing better football and scoring more goals and has had a much higher points total twice compared to Benitez's highest. In Europe Benitez approached games differently to Klopp but they both have two finals and one win. I think there's a sizable gap from Klopp to Benitez in terms of the Premier League. Funnily enough I'd give Benitez the edge in domestic cups. Overall though Klopp is way out in front for me.
The implication that we're imploding and injuries aren't the main reason why is what I can't get on board with. We just beat Spurs and West Ham fairly easily. I think two things are happening:
1. We're naturally returning to a more normal level after two ridiculous seasons. This has happened to City as well. They're even at that more normal level this season too.
2. Injuries have impacted us. You made the point that United had them in 11/12 and you ended up not winning the league on GD. This could happen to us or we could miss out due to a few points here and there. Injuries did impact United in 11/12 the same way that they're impacting us now because being honest, you would've probably won it without having to make ridiculous changes . Lack of options, square pegs/round holes, inability to rotate. It's all relevant. Without as many injuries we would be on more points than we're on now. I think we would've won several of those many games against sides lower down in the table where we've dropped points. We still would've dropped off but not as much as we have. We're still in the title conversation by the way. This time last season City were 20 points behind us.
On the CB thing. I don't think we planned to buy anyone in January given how Fabinho was playing. We've not been struggling defensively and have conceded a maximum of 1 goal in the league since the Everton game where Van Dijk got chopped. Matip being out for the rest of the season forced our hand and we went for budget options because we can't afford to throw big money at anyone right now. The mistake was spending money on Tsimikas who has been pointless, when we could've got a cheap Lovren replacement then.
I'm not saying there aren't faults with how we're playing by the way. Klopp needs to try and change something because it's not working against low blocks any more. There has to be a way to remedy that.
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Comparable can still lead to one being slightly better. It means similar, not same.
Superb post!
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But likewise, City could argue that they would be on more points than they are now with Aguero fully fit for the entire season. They could also argue that they had a shorter offseason than we did which might've led to their relatively poor start. Every top team can make up a few excuses as to why they're not at the top of the league, but (and not saying you are) we shouldn't be hiding behind those. It's a simple fact that injuries have affected us yes, but they have also affected City and Leicester (to a lesser extent, but still). It's a contributing factor for me but not an excuse - we simply aren't playing well enough, simple as.
Also disagree that we're still in the title conversation. We might be 10 points behind City with a game extra played if we lose Sunday. Even if we win, it's still 7 points if they win their game in hand. Our results against the bottom 5 have completely let us down this season. For me, it's just a matter of securing top 4 as fast as possible and putting all eggs in the CL basket now.
The one that their beloved Klopp deliberately said some stuff to get under the skin of Guardiola. And Pep reacted.what press conference did they watch?
So Klopp 1-0 Pep
You believe what you want to believe
Oh, do feck off, Grimace!
Well said.
Yeah that's true. I think the difference is we're talking about one player in Aguero (or Laporte last season) whereas ours have built up on top of each other. We're at over 800 days now for players lost to injury. It's crazy compared to what we've had previously, apart from Klopp's first season when everyone had hamstrings. But yes fair point, we should be beating some of these teams regardless.
I do agree that we're not playing well at times though. Brighton was awful and we were second best. Thought we lost control of the game at 1-0 up against West Brom as well. Go back to prior to that West Brom game though and all of this would've seemed ridiculous. I think we're in a blip rather than a decline. Something that has impacted everyone at different stages. Top four is a must now though.
I think if we win on Sunday and considering how the season has been, we're still in the conversation. If we lose we're done. If we draw then it's maybe but I doubt it.
He's very good at coming out with things that are completely incorrect.
But he's so cool and hip.
I don't know why I waste so much time defending him and dueling with @Jonno when he comes out with BS excuses like that.
He's turned into quite a sourpuss as of late, and long may it continue. If he's trying to play mind games, then he needs to do a lot better as he is looking like he's cracking up as opposed to someone with a master plan up his sleeve.
I know this is from a while back and I am bringing it up for seemingly no reason - despite the guy always being a bit cringey to say the least - the one thing that really annoyed me was him calling Fergie at 3/4am when they won* the league.
Sorry if I come across as a killjoy or whatever, but it is just struck me as a bit of a bellend thing to do.
It would be the same as Fergie in 1993 calling up Bob Paisley or Bill Shankly (had Shankly not already passed away by that time), at 3 in the morning telling them that United had won the league, despite both of them being in their 80s.
Regardless of his "character" or full-time banter, it rubbed me as being quite a prick of a thing to do to someone in their late 70s.
Bit of a non-issue as Fergie took it well (publicly at least) in the end, but rant over with, just wanted to get that off my chest as yet another reason to dislike the man.
I know this is from a while back and I am bringing it up for seemingly no reason - despite the guy always being a bit cringey to say the least - the one thing that really annoyed me was him calling Fergie at 3/4am when they won* the league.
Sorry if I come across as a killjoy or whatever, but it is just struck me as a bit of a bellend thing to do.
It would be the same as Fergie in 1993 calling up Bob Paisley or Bill Shankly (had Shankly not already passed away by that time), at 3 in the morning telling them that United had won the league, despite both of them being in their 80s.
Regardless of his "character" or full-time banter, it rubbed me as being quite a prick of a thing to do to someone in their late 70s.
Bit of a non-issue as Fergie took it well (publicly at least) in the end, but rant over with, just wanted to get that off my chest as yet another reason to dislike the man.
I had no idea about this. What a fecking bellend.
Yeah, he's a bellend.
He’s quite the hypocrite, considering Ole could have used that exact excuse when we played them as we have been going every 3/4 days since the week before Xmas and that will continue until after the europa games bar one week where it was 6 days.
This didnt happen though, and seems destined to become one of these football myths that lives on no matter how many times its corrected,mostly through Liverpool fans who want to lie to themselves for the sake of some 'legendary' story.
For clarity, Ferguson text klopp congratulations when they won the league. By the time klopp was replying to messages it was 4am. He sent a brief thank you to Ferguson, who happened to have his phone nearby and on when it buzzed and 'woke him.'
End of tale.
I wonder why Fergie would want klopps number, can you imagine how many people Fergie has in his phone!
Right you are, can't stand him.
If you search "ferguson klopp" on youtube, you will find it (apologies as I can't post the link).
It would be like Ole doing the same to Kenny Dalglish (in the unlikely event United win the league any time soon) - I would think exactly the same, and I am sure United as a club would resent such a thing too. It is very small time and rather childish, regardless of what kind of rivalry exists.
And I doubt Fergie was prank calling Klopp previously or in some sort of a twitter war, therefore it just so happened to be Jurgen getting his own back. Again, very cringey.
Ah - only just seen your reply. Didn't know this part of it.
Still not beyond the realm of fantasy for Klopp to do something like that, but thanks for clearing that up all the same.
Doesn't make him any less of a prick regardless.
Definitely. He's an arsehole.
I never knew that, jesus what an absolute cnut!
Isn’t this just classic deflection tactics given how shit his team has been?
Let Klopp carry on with his whinging. He'll have the same effect as Arsene Wenger had on Arsenal players. Always playing the victims card turns winners into losers, gives the players an excuse not to fight to the end, when the going gets tough.
I like how Ole has instilled a positive, never give in attitude to our players, which we had under Fergie. Ole could have come out with plenty of justifiable complaints this season, but instead, he has concentrated on keeping the team focused and fighting to the end.
I like how Ole has instilled a positive, never give in attitude to our players, which we had under Fergie. Ole could have come out with plenty of justifiable complaints this season, but instead, he has concentrated on keeping the team focused and fighting to the end.
You have over 14k posts on your team's biggest rivals' message board. You clearly enjoy wasting your time.
Did City having a covid break really make Brighton outplay them, and Burnley turn them over?
That is some funky voodoo Pep has going on there.
That is some funky voodoo Pep has going on there.
Moaning cnuts. They got spanked 7-2 by Villa wen the messiah van Dik was there. They've run outa steam it happens.
He'll soon be back to this carry on.
Obviously. Only deluded scousers would view this as "Getting under Pep's skin" or mind games.
Yeah I post more often than I should. Especially in this thread.
he is a winner but in the end a class less guy. in loosing you see the character of people. when winning he was beautiful but when loosing he was really try