Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

But you can get knocked out of them this early, as both our teams have found out :p

I always wonder how long Liverpool fans’ patience will last. It’s understandable that he brings attacking football and a ‘feel good factor’ but one would imagine that at some point there would be demands to win something.

If you actually look at most of our seasons since 08/09, it's obvious why we're patient with Klopp. Everyone can see he's building a great squad, and he's made us a really attractive club to come to as well. A lot of our signings have rejected interest from other (supposedly) bigger clubs to come to us.

Sacking Klopp would only set us back. As long as we keep improving things are good. People only judging success by numbers of trophies won have the wrong mindset as a fan, imo.
 
Klopp is a top manager (despite his lunatic antics). They are building a very strong squad there.
 
If you actually look at most of our seasons since 08/09, it's obvious why we're patient with Klopp. Everyone can see he's building a great squad, and he's made us a really attractive club to come to as well. A lot of our signings have rejected interest from other (supposedly) bigger clubs to come to us.

Sacking Klopp would only set us back. As long as we keep improving things are good. People only judging success by numbers of trophies won have the wrong mindset as a fan, imo.

That is ultimately what great players and clubs are going to be remembered by, winning trophies. If Klopp can't deliver trophies, over a span of the next few years, he will start to lose some of his star players to teams who could provide trophies.
 
Ha, yeah. I wish one of Mourinho or LVG was our manager!

Mourinho's trajectory is down, and I cannot get past the feeling that any trophies he won with Utd are a glimpse of the past, not future.

Saying that, Klopp needs wina trophy. Not because of money (other teams have spent more) but because of the belief it will instil throughout the players and club as a whole. And will hopefully be a springboard to further and greater success

Something no Liverpool fan has said in the last 30 years.

Another Cassidy, really?
 
But you can get knocked out of them this early, as both our teams have found out :p

I always wonder how long Liverpool fans’ patience will last. It’s understandable that he brings attacking football and a ‘feel good factor’ but one would imagine that at some point there would be demands to win something.
Well, he promised the league title within four years. Means this is their year, innit? I actually think he can go on for 5-6 more years without winning anything. He can play the blame game and get all dippers onside.
 
If you actually look at most of our seasons since 08/09, it's obvious why we're patient with Klopp. Everyone can see he's building a great squad, and he's made us a really attractive club to come to as well. A lot of our signings have rejected interest from other (supposedly) bigger clubs to come to us.

Sacking Klopp would only set us back. As long as we keep improving things are good. People only judging success by numbers of trophies won have the wrong mindset as a fan, imo.

So how does a big football club such as Liverpool measure success if not by the accumulation of trophies?
 
It's a bit much to expect to win something, they haven't won anything for years, why should they start now?

United expect to win stuff, and despite the standard of what we are watching, we have won the FA Cup, Europa League, League Cup and Community Shield (twice - even fecking Moyes won that).

In my opinion, they should expect to be winning things because their squad/manager is of the standard that they can compete with anyone in the country. Only a handful of teams can say that.
 
My own feelings on how Klopp’s tenure at LFC will pan out are like this:

1. He’ll carry on in the same lung-busting vein, but just fall short of winning significant silverware, then depart as a gallant hero regardless having given them something of a glimpse of the promised land...

or

2. He will actually manage to deliver a PL or CL title, be lauded as the messiah, then he won’t be able to maintain that peak a la Dortmund, and feck off & leave the job anyway, mission accomplished.

Cannot see him staying in the job longer than 5 years total either way. He couldn’t sustain it against Bayern so why would it be different here?

You can see why the Liverpool job appealed to him really. About as close to a no lose situation as he could have hoped to walk into.
 
Something no Liverpool fan has said in the last 30 years.

Another Cassidy, really?

I have siblings on here?

Yeah, I get the 30 year lark. Upside is that we're in a better position now than we have been for 30 years. Who knows what that will translate into, though.

But, now, you lot are doing a fine job in walking down our path to the footballing abyss. If you need any advice on how to handle it, let me know.
 
I have siblings on here?

Yeah, I get the 30 year lark. Upside is that we're in a better position now than we have been for 30 years. Who knows what that will translate into, though.

But, now, you lot are doing a fine job in walking down our path to the footballing abyss. If you need any advice on how to handle it, let me know.

While I most definitely appreciate such a thoughtful offer, the idea of joining a support group like RAWK, creating a false premier league table to underline my even falser sense of security, putting value in Net Spend or organizing mass-suicide by way of jumping in the River Mersey does not appeal to me.
 
And calling a professional manager managing at the top level a moron is good logic? Why aren't you managing a top club then are you a bigger moron than him? Is Pep a moron because he constantly loses to Klopp as well?

Again, this might be hard for you to understand...but he is a moron compared to Ancelotti and Allegri. Again, Klopp even said Ancelotti is much smarter than him. Seems like I'm repeating myself and it's hard for you to understand.

Nah, Pep isn't a moron because he constantly loses to Klopp. Like take last season for example, Guardiola won the PL while what did Klopp win? :lol:

When Klopp at least wins a CL or PL then maybe he can be compared to Guardiola :lol:
 
My own feelings on how Klopp’s tenure at LFC will pan out are like this:

1. He’ll carry on in the same lung-busting vein, but just fall short of winning significant silverware, then depart as a gallant hero regardless having given them something of a glimpse of the promised land...

or

2. He will actually manage to deliver a PL or CL title, be lauded as the messiah, then he won’t be able to maintain that peak a la Dortmund, and feck off & leave the job anyway, mission accomplished.

Cannot see him staying in the job longer than 5 years total either way. He couldn’t sustain it against Bayern so why would it be different here?

You can see why the Liverpool job appealed to him really. About as close to a no lose situation as he could have hoped to walk into.

Hello guys,

I am a looong silent read in these forums, because honestly I love the English football (or do you say soccer?) and I love the attitude in your country towards football. This being said, this is my first posting and I am not a native speaker so forgive me if I am offending anyone, I am not doing this on purpose.

This posting about Juergen Klopp has motivated me to come out of the shell and post some lines about our former manager (I am a BVB fan).
I know that Juergen is seen as polarizing, but this guy is like an avatar of what football is really about. He is down to earth, he sees fans first, money last, his teams play very clean and do not at all fight dirty (BVB had lowest counts of yellow cards for a long time when he was with us). Klopp even said that he does not want to see that a player is diving for penalty, he has forbidden that, because he does not want to win this way. His gameplan is not only about winning, he wants to give the viewers a memorable show with offensive plays. The reason he started at Liverpool is because this club has a long tradition, same as BVB. And even if I know that a lot of you guys like Liverpool like we love Schalke (as in: enemies forever), all those clubs are about tradition, fight and even eat dirt when this helps to win. It is football for the people, not for the rich guys.

When Juergen arrived at BVB, our club was at rock bottom. Sponsors started to leave the club and the situation was dire. But Klopp personally took a long telephone list and talked to all of them. He asked them to stay and convinced them of a bright future, to see more in a club than money. But even though we needed money more than anything, he asked our management not to raise the prices in our stadium and to protect the Suedtribuene as a place for supporters to STAND and not sit, because this is much cheaper.
To us fans he said that he cannot guarantee a better future or even titles, but he guaranteed that every time BVB will play, the green will burn hot and every player will give everything that he has to ensure a win or he won't play at all. At the start everyone was very sceptical, because he asked some really good players to leave the club, because they did not want to follow his philosophy. But it soon started to pay off and in the following years I have seen football that I have never seen in my entire life before, let alone from my very own club.

The problem that Juergen had in Dortmund were the finances. Obviously the club could not pay as much as Bayern or even Madrid and Barcelona, so our promising start was shattered when players started to leave the club. The first one was Sahin. Everyone understood that Real was the better club, but the one that really broke us (and Klopp) was Mario Goetze.... we all thought, BVB would march right to the top of Europe and grab the CL title, if not this year, but next year, only a question of time when Goetzes leave was announced. And we all started to feel very bad and beaten. The top clubs started to pick us apart. In Interviews you could understand that Klopp was demotivated as well. This was the beginning of the end of the Klopp era.

But even when we were at our worst at the very end of the Bundesliga, we loved Klopp. Because he brought more than the promise of titles, he was a friend, a hard worker, a guy crazy for football, a guy who brought back our believe for a better world where football was not dictated by money, but by heart and spirit.

I still miss him a lot and since he transferred to Liverpool, I watch PL more than I watch Bundesliga. And title or no title, CL win or no CL win, I think I will never love a persona in soccer more than I do love him. He brings so much more to the table than titles, he brings honor, loyalty, friendship between the club and the supporters and he brings heart and love in a time of money and power.

So no, when he will leave at one day, he is not "going to feck off" as you described it. He will leave in tears. He could not sustain against Bayern, because Bayern could get every Dortmund player they wanted. And after Lewandowski, Götze and talks about Gündogan, it was too much for him. How are you going to win over the long run against a club that is taking your players at will? When Klopp left BVB, everyone was in tears: the fans, the clubs leaders, Klopp, even the press.

The picture that you paint of Klopp could not be more wrong. You can say a lot of negative things about him and I completely understand how people could hate him, but Klopp is no coward, he does not look at his persona or his title compilation when looking for a new club. He is looking for the love of football, for masses fascinated by their club and Liverpool appealed to him, because their fans are fans at heart.
For me, football is more than titles, it is about emotion, great games, great fights, great personas, amazing stadium atmosphere and about hugging other fans that you have never seen before in your life when emotions get the best of you. This is why Klopp will win titles at one point, because he thinks the same. And when frequencies are so much in line with each other, great things are about to happen. He has taken BVB from a below average club to one of the most recognized clubs in Europe (we no longer have this status, no doubt) and I doubt very much that he will leave Liverpool with nothing to talk about, even if it is only about great stories and great games.
 
Hello guys,

I am a looong silent read in these forums, because honestly I love the English football (or do you say soccer?) and I love the attitude in your country towards football. This being said, this is my first posting and I am not a native speaker so forgive me if I am offending anyone, I am not doing this on purpose.

This posting about Juergen Klopp has motivated me to come out of the shell and post some lines about our former manager (I am a BVB fan).
I know that Juergen is seen as polarizing, but this guy is like an avatar of what football is really about. He is down to earth, he sees fans first, money last, his teams play very clean and do not at all fight dirty (BVB had lowest counts of yellow cards for a long time when he was with us). Klopp even said that he does not want to see that a player is diving for penalty, he has forbidden that, because he does not want to win this way. His gameplan is not only about winning, he wants to give the viewers a memorable show with offensive plays. The reason he started at Liverpool is because this club has a long tradition, same as BVB. And even if I know that a lot of you guys like Liverpool like we love Schalke (as in: enemies forever), all those clubs are about tradition, fight and even eat dirt when this helps to win. It is football for the people, not for the rich guys.

When Juergen arrived at BVB, our club was at rock bottom. Sponsors started to leave the club and the situation was dire. But Klopp personally took a long telephone list and talked to all of them. He asked them to stay and convinced them of a bright future, to see more in a club than money. But even though we needed money more than anything, he asked our management not to raise the prices in our stadium and to protect the Suedtribuene as a place for supporters to STAND and not sit, because this is much cheaper.
To us fans he said that he cannot guarantee a better future or even titles, but he guaranteed that every time BVB will play, the green will burn hot and every player will give everything that he has to ensure a win or he won't play at all. At the start everyone was very sceptical, because he asked some really good players to leave the club, because they did not want to follow his philosophy. But it soon started to pay off and in the following years I have seen football that I have never seen in my entire life before, let alone from my very own club.

The problem that Juergen had in Dortmund were the finances. Obviously the club could not pay as much as Bayern or even Madrid and Barcelona, so our promising start was shattered when players started to leave the club. The first one was Sahin. Everyone understood that Real was the better club, but the one that really broke us (and Klopp) was Mario Goetze.... we all thought, BVB would march right to the top of Europe and grab the CL title, if not this year, but next year, only a question of time when Goetzes leave was announced. And we all started to feel very bad and beaten. The top clubs started to pick us apart. In Interviews you could understand that Klopp was demotivated as well. This was the beginning of the end of the Klopp era.

But even when we were at our worst at the very end of the Bundesliga, we loved Klopp. Because he brought more than the promise of titles, he was a friend, a hard worker, a guy crazy for football, a guy who brought back our believe for a better world where football was not dictated by money, but by heart and spirit.

I still miss him a lot and since he transferred to Liverpool, I watch PL more than I watch Bundesliga. And title or no title, CL win or no CL win, I think I will never love a persona in soccer more than I do love him. He brings so much more to the table than titles, he brings honor, loyalty, friendship between the club and the supporters and he brings heart and love in a time of money and power.

So no, when he will leave at one day, he is not "going to feck off" as you described it. He will leave in tears. He could not sustain against Bayern, because Bayern could get every Dortmund player they wanted. And after Lewandowski, Götze and talks about Gündogan, it was too much for him. How are you going to win over the long run against a club that is taking your players at will? When Klopp left BVB, everyone was in tears: the fans, the clubs leaders, Klopp, even the press.

The picture that you paint of Klopp could not be more wrong. You can say a lot of negative things about him and I completely understand how people could hate him, but Klopp is no coward, he does not look at his persona or his title compilation when looking for a new club. He is looking for the love of football, for masses fascinated by their club and Liverpool appealed to him, because their fans are fans at heart.
For me, football is more than titles, it is about emotion, great games, great fights, great personas, amazing stadium atmosphere and about hugging other fans that you have never seen before in your life when emotions get the best of you. This is why Klopp will win titles at one point, because he thinks the same. And when frequencies are so much in line with each other, great things are about to happen. He has taken BVB from a below average club to one of the most recognized clubs in Europe (we no longer have this status, no doubt) and I doubt very much that he will leave Liverpool with nothing to talk about, even if it is only about great stories and great games.

Nice post. I think we as Liverpool fans are incredibly lucky to have Klopp. We were no where before he came and he has somewhat made us a little more significant lately. Wouldn't trade him for any other manager.
 
While I most definitely appreciate such a thoughtful offer, the idea of joining a support group like RAWK, creating a false premier league table to underline my even falser sense of security, putting value in Net Spend or organizing mass-suicide by way of jumping in the River Mersey does not appeal to me.
Game...Set....and Match.
 
Nice post. I think we as Liverpool fans are incredibly lucky to have Klopp. We were no where before he came and he has somewhat made us a little more significant lately. Wouldn't trade him for any other manager.
Somebody pass me the sick bucket!!
 
Hello guys,

I am a looong silent read in these forums, because honestly I love the English football (or do you say soccer?) and I love the attitude in your country towards football. This being said, this is my first posting and I am not a native speaker so forgive me if I am offending anyone, I am not doing this on purpose.

This posting about Juergen Klopp has motivated me to come out of the shell and post some lines about our former manager (I am a BVB fan).
I know that Juergen is seen as polarizing, but this guy is like an avatar of what football is really about. He is down to earth, he sees fans first, money last, his teams play very clean and do not at all fight dirty (BVB had lowest counts of yellow cards for a long time when he was with us). Klopp even said that he does not want to see that a player is diving for penalty, he has forbidden that, because he does not want to win this way. His gameplan is not only about winning, he wants to give the viewers a memorable show with offensive plays. The reason he started at Liverpool is because this club has a long tradition, same as BVB. And even if I know that a lot of you guys like Liverpool like we love Schalke (as in: enemies forever), all those clubs are about tradition, fight and even eat dirt when this helps to win. It is football for the people, not for the rich guys.

When Juergen arrived at BVB, our club was at rock bottom. Sponsors started to leave the club and the situation was dire. But Klopp personally took a long telephone list and talked to all of them. He asked them to stay and convinced them of a bright future, to see more in a club than money. But even though we needed money more than anything, he asked our management not to raise the prices in our stadium and to protect the Suedtribuene as a place for supporters to STAND and not sit, because this is much cheaper.
To us fans he said that he cannot guarantee a better future or even titles, but he guaranteed that every time BVB will play, the green will burn hot and every player will give everything that he has to ensure a win or he won't play at all. At the start everyone was very sceptical, because he asked some really good players to leave the club, because they did not want to follow his philosophy. But it soon started to pay off and in the following years I have seen football that I have never seen in my entire life before, let alone from my very own club.

The problem that Juergen had in Dortmund were the finances. Obviously the club could not pay as much as Bayern or even Madrid and Barcelona, so our promising start was shattered when players started to leave the club. The first one was Sahin. Everyone understood that Real was the better club, but the one that really broke us (and Klopp) was Mario Goetze.... we all thought, BVB would march right to the top of Europe and grab the CL title, if not this year, but next year, only a question of time when Goetzes leave was announced. And we all started to feel very bad and beaten. The top clubs started to pick us apart. In Interviews you could understand that Klopp was demotivated as well. This was the beginning of the end of the Klopp era.

But even when we were at our worst at the very end of the Bundesliga, we loved Klopp. Because he brought more than the promise of titles, he was a friend, a hard worker, a guy crazy for football, a guy who brought back our believe for a better world where football was not dictated by money, but by heart and spirit.

I still miss him a lot and since he transferred to Liverpool, I watch PL more than I watch Bundesliga. And title or no title, CL win or no CL win, I think I will never love a persona in soccer more than I do love him. He brings so much more to the table than titles, he brings honor, loyalty, friendship between the club and the supporters and he brings heart and love in a time of money and power.

So no, when he will leave at one day, he is not "going to feck off" as you described it. He will leave in tears. He could not sustain against Bayern, because Bayern could get every Dortmund player they wanted. And after Lewandowski, Götze and talks about Gündogan, it was too much for him. How are you going to win over the long run against a club that is taking your players at will? When Klopp left BVB, everyone was in tears: the fans, the clubs leaders, Klopp, even the press.

The picture that you paint of Klopp could not be more wrong. You can say a lot of negative things about him and I completely understand how people could hate him, but Klopp is no coward, he does not look at his persona or his title compilation when looking for a new club. He is looking for the love of football, for masses fascinated by their club and Liverpool appealed to him, because their fans are fans at heart.
For me, football is more than titles, it is about emotion, great games, great fights, great personas, amazing stadium atmosphere and about hugging other fans that you have never seen before in your life when emotions get the best of you. This is why Klopp will win titles at one point, because he thinks the same. And when frequencies are so much in line with each other, great things are about to happen. He has taken BVB from a below average club to one of the most recognized clubs in Europe (we no longer have this status, no doubt) and I doubt very much that he will leave Liverpool with nothing to talk about, even if it is only about great stories and great games.


And let’s not forget he smiles all the time, high fives and runs down the touchline like a mad man, but no trophies . Ffs
 
If he doesn't win anything this season, questions will be raised. But let's not jump the gun.

Nice post. I think we as Liverpool fans are incredibly lucky to have Klopp. We were no where before he came and he has somewhat made us a little more significant lately. Wouldn't trade him for any other manager.

Well, you had a fantastic league campaign in 13/14 and after 3 full seasons at the club it is still unclear whether Klopp will be able to match that 13/14 season. Last season he was 9 pts off the 84 pts you won then.
 
Again, this might be hard for you to understand...but he is a moron compared to Ancelotti and Allegri. Again, Klopp even said Ancelotti is much smarter than him. Seems like I'm repeating myself and it's hard for you to understand.

Nah, Pep isn't a moron because he constantly loses to Klopp. Like take last season for example, Guardiola won the PL while what did Klopp win? :lol:

When Klopp at least wins a CL or PL then maybe he can be compared to Guardiola :lol:
Well, at least he will still be here Monday.
 
Hello guys,

I am a looong silent read in these forums, because honestly I love the English football (or do you say soccer?) and I love the attitude in your country towards football. This being said, this is my first posting and I am not a native speaker so forgive me if I am offending anyone, I am not doing this on purpose.

This posting about Juergen Klopp has motivated me to come out of the shell and post some lines about our former manager (I am a BVB fan).
I know that Juergen is seen as polarizing, but this guy is like an avatar of what football is really about. He is down to earth, he sees fans first, money last, his teams play very clean and do not at all fight dirty (BVB had lowest counts of yellow cards for a long time when he was with us). Klopp even said that he does not want to see that a player is diving for penalty, he has forbidden that, because he does not want to win this way. His gameplan is not only about winning, he wants to give the viewers a memorable show with offensive plays. The reason he started at Liverpool is because this club has a long tradition, same as BVB. And even if I know that a lot of you guys like Liverpool like we love Schalke (as in: enemies forever), all those clubs are about tradition, fight and even eat dirt when this helps to win. It is football for the people, not for the rich guys.

When Juergen arrived at BVB, our club was at rock bottom. Sponsors started to leave the club and the situation was dire. But Klopp personally took a long telephone list and talked to all of them. He asked them to stay and convinced them of a bright future, to see more in a club than money. But even though we needed money more than anything, he asked our management not to raise the prices in our stadium and to protect the Suedtribuene as a place for supporters to STAND and not sit, because this is much cheaper.
To us fans he said that he cannot guarantee a better future or even titles, but he guaranteed that every time BVB will play, the green will burn hot and every player will give everything that he has to ensure a win or he won't play at all. At the start everyone was very sceptical, because he asked some really good players to leave the club, because they did not want to follow his philosophy. But it soon started to pay off and in the following years I have seen football that I have never seen in my entire life before, let alone from my very own club.

The problem that Juergen had in Dortmund were the finances. Obviously the club could not pay as much as Bayern or even Madrid and Barcelona, so our promising start was shattered when players started to leave the club. The first one was Sahin. Everyone understood that Real was the better club, but the one that really broke us (and Klopp) was Mario Goetze.... we all thought, BVB would march right to the top of Europe and grab the CL title, if not this year, but next year, only a question of time when Goetzes leave was announced. And we all started to feel very bad and beaten. The top clubs started to pick us apart. In Interviews you could understand that Klopp was demotivated as well. This was the beginning of the end of the Klopp era.

But even when we were at our worst at the very end of the Bundesliga, we loved Klopp. Because he brought more than the promise of titles, he was a friend, a hard worker, a guy crazy for football, a guy who brought back our believe for a better world where football was not dictated by money, but by heart and spirit.

I still miss him a lot and since he transferred to Liverpool, I watch PL more than I watch Bundesliga. And title or no title, CL win or no CL win, I think I will never love a persona in soccer more than I do love him. He brings so much more to the table than titles, he brings honor, loyalty, friendship between the club and the supporters and he brings heart and love in a time of money and power.

So no, when he will leave at one day, he is not "going to feck off" as you described it. He will leave in tears. He could not sustain against Bayern, because Bayern could get every Dortmund player they wanted. And after Lewandowski, Götze and talks about Gündogan, it was too much for him. How are you going to win over the long run against a club that is taking your players at will? When Klopp left BVB, everyone was in tears: the fans, the clubs leaders, Klopp, even the press.

The picture that you paint of Klopp could not be more wrong. You can say a lot of negative things about him and I completely understand how people could hate him, but Klopp is no coward, he does not look at his persona or his title compilation when looking for a new club. He is looking for the love of football, for masses fascinated by their club and Liverpool appealed to him, because their fans are fans at heart.
For me, football is more than titles, it is about emotion, great games, great fights, great personas, amazing stadium atmosphere and about hugging other fans that you have never seen before in your life when emotions get the best of you. This is why Klopp will win titles at one point, because he thinks the same. And when frequencies are so much in line with each other, great things are about to happen. He has taken BVB from a below average club to one of the most recognized clubs in Europe (we no longer have this status, no doubt) and I doubt very much that he will leave Liverpool with nothing to talk about, even if it is only about great stories and great games.

I would grudgingly agree with much of what you say in that Klopp is a good football man. Was impressed by the way he took the blame for Liverpool's defeat to Napoli, few managers admit it's their fault.

But when he manages your opposition and comes out with cringe quotes about us, along with his general demeanour of taking "football for the fans" too far in trying to act "cool" (wearing a Beatles shirt for instance, too cringe and obvious), it becomes a bit too much for his rivals to stand. I get it if Dortmund and Liverpool fans like it though.
 
I would grudgingly agree with much of what you say in that Klopp is a good football man. Was impressed by the way he took the blame for Liverpool's defeat to Napoli, few managers admit it's their fault.

But when he manages your opposition and comes out with cringe quotes about us, along with his general demeanour of taking "football for the fans" too far in trying to act "cool" (wearing a Beatles shirt for instance, too cringe and obvious), it becomes a bit too much for his rivals to stand. I get it if Dortmund and Liverpool fans like it though.

I would agree with you if there were only words, but there are loads of actions as well. So I doubt that it is just an "act", but I can see how rivals could see it differently. But isn't it always like this? If you sympathize, you are looking for things that you like as well and if you hate, you look for things you dislike.
 
Klopp broke up the Van Dijk-Gomez partnership to accomodate Lovren and play Gomez at RB. His team was outplayed today by City. City should have won 3-0 today. Again I stand my comments he's tactically inept.

Klopp's incompetence has been proven in last 2 weeks against Sarri, Ancelotti and Guardiola. Nowhere in hell are Liverpool going to win the league after today's showing.
 
Klopp broke up the Van Dijk-Gomez partnership to accomodate Lovren and play Gomez at RB. His team was outplayed today by City. City should have won 3-0 today. Again I stand my comments he's tactically inept.

Klopp's incompetence has been proven in last 2 weeks against Sarri, Ancelotti and Guardiola. Nowhere in hell are Liverpool going to win the league after today's showing.

Yep, they're a full...zero points behind Chelsea and City.
They aint making that up
 
Yep, they're a full...zero points behind Chelsea and City.
They aint making that up
:lol:

I need some convincing that we can win it. We’re missing something in our build up play.

He’s done well building a solid defence.
 
Klopp broke up the Van Dijk-Gomez partnership to accomodate Lovren and play Gomez at RB. His team was outplayed today by City. City should have won 3-0 today. Again I stand my comments he's tactically inept.

Klopp's incompetence has been proven in last 2 weeks against Sarri, Ancelotti and Guardiola. Nowhere in hell are Liverpool going to win the league after today's showing.

Nonsense. van Dijk's stupid challenge aside they were very good defensively. 0-0 is just about the right result. Not sure where you get the 3-0 for City from.
 
I would grudgingly agree with much of what you say in that Klopp is a good football man. Was impressed by the way he took the blame for Liverpool's defeat to Napoli, few managers admit it's their fault.

But when he manages your opposition and comes out with cringe quotes about us, along with his general demeanour of taking "football for the fans" too far in trying to act "cool" (wearing a Beatles shirt for instance, too cringe and obvious), it becomes a bit too much for his rivals to stand. I get it if Dortmund and Liverpool fans like it though.
Didn't he specifically name Mane and Firminho when talking about that loss?
 
:lol:

I need some convincing that we can win it. We’re missing something in our build up play.

He’s done well building a solid defence.

The smart money is still City. They've started strongly, and last season you had a way of playing against them, especially at home. That was nullified today.
Chelsea are the dark horses. They might actually edge you out too.
 
His record in big games hasn't been good at all since last season, in opposite to when he came early to the league he was beating big sides and losing points to small teams. Now it's the opposite.
 
His record in big games hasn't been good at all since last season, in opposite to when he came early to the league he was beating big sides and losing points to small teams. Now it's the opposite.

The lad has lost 6 finals in a row. It's safe to say his big game preparation is lacking.
 
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I need some convincing that we can win it. We’re missing something in our build up play.

He’s done well building a solid defence.
You can't mate, sorry. City is too much. Your chance is a meteor strikes their training ground, injuring everyone for the season :D. You could reach 90 points, but it won't be enough
 
It is knee-jerking. We didn’t look knackered on the weekend. You’re basing your opinion on one game.

It’ll be more of a concern if we lose on Sunday.
I told you that Liverpool were knackered :)

You won't last the marathon, I stick to my point: Chelsea and City will contest for the league. Liverpool will burn out because of Klopp's training/tactics.

Top 4 again for Liverpool, no trophies - keeps the fans happy I guess.
 
Moaning about tiredness
International friendlies
Injuries

Praising his teams defending
And how they stopped city at home

Lucky for him he’s not mourinho & gets a free ride from the press
Their football is looking more and more like Utd football of the past few years. Unremarkable going forward and relying a lot on good defensive performances. Mourinho got pelters for playing that way at Anfield, yet Klopp does it at home and not a peep from anyone.
 
Their football is looking more and more like Utd football of the past few years. Unremarkable going forward and relying a lot on good defensive performances. Mourinho got pelters for playing that way at Anfield, yet Klopp does it at home and not a peep from anyone.
Very true. The only difference was Joe Gomez crossed the ball in first time or a lot quicker than Valencia ever would and they pumped the ball over the top for Salah instead of us throwing it up to Lukaku/Fellaini.
 
His team is too reliant on energy. Today they struggled to outrun City and it showed. They looked flat. It's difficult to compete for the league if you have to outrun the rivals in order to get something. Still, they will have a good campaign. 85 pts are a possibility.
 
His team is too reliant on energy. Today they struggled to outrun City and it showed. They looked flat. It's difficult to compete for the league if you have to outrun the rivals in order to get something. Still, they will have a good campaign. 85 pts are a possibility.

His teams have always been that way, tiring at the end of a game and the end of a season. Without Salah playing out of his skin its hard to see where the goals will come from on a regular basis. Firmino cant do it on his own, Mane isn't that sort of player, and Sturridge isn't good enough.