He's the German Mark Hughes. Moan, moan, moan. It is neverending.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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'moral victory' for LFC according to MotD & specifically Jonathan Northcroft of The Times
Klopp & Anfield 'bouncing'
actually win a fecking game, they'll be near unstoppable,
When you start claiming moral victories you know you're in real trouble.
you could not play this way at man utd but its ok for liverpool
Exactly.
It's fine. As long as they're playing heavy metal football and creating chances who gives a feck about results, position in league table and competing for titles ? These are for other clubs not Liverpool.
media friendly though, innit?
any story Jurgen wants to run, suddenly get's some legs from somewhere (crap metaphors r us)
for instance, the claim that the Mane red card was terribly unfair was just a nonsense, should have been laughed at for me
any story Jurgen wants to run, suddenly get's some legs from somewhere (crap metaphors r us)
for instance, the claim that the Mane red card was terribly unfair was just a nonsense, should have been laughed at for me
Yeah, i wish we could play like them. it wouldn't have mattered if we had 1 win in 8 while playing expensive heavy metal football. instead of the pragmatic approach of Jose which got us 6 wins and 2 draws out of the last 8 games.
True. I'm so jealous. They're 8th and can fill to 9th this week but the most important thing is they're playing heavy metal football unlike us who're second.
Before anyone says they played against top teams, they lost 6 points to Watford, Burnely and Newcastle.
True. I'm so jealous. They're 8th and can fill to 9th this week but the most important thing is they're playing heavy metal football unlike us who're second.
Before anyone says they played against top teams, they lost 6 points to Watford, Burnely and Newcastle.
As a fan of extreme metal music, associating this great genre with Klopp and Liverpool sure doesn't sit right with me.
Let's change it to "Bieber-ball", suits Klopp's show-boating anyway.
I'm not much into music but if you feel it's insult to heavy metal music to be compared to Klopp's football then I'll hardly disagree. :
Why would he change a midfield three that seemed to be getting the better of a midfield two?
United were struggling in the second half so I'd say it was up to Mourinho to try and change things (which he did).
DDG had little to do apart from that wonder save. The fact is theres a blueprint in how to nullify Liverpool, which we followed, and Klopp still couldn't find a way round it.
Despite his grand standing to the masses he now has 1 win in 8 with a difficult game v Spurs next while Utd have a big game away chalked off the list.
Mind the (7 point) gap Jurgen.
Despite his grand standing to the masses he now has 1 win in 8 with a difficult game v Spurs next while Utd have a big game away chalked off the list.
Mind the (7 point) gap Jurgen.
You seemed pretty confident that you’d wipe the floor with us before the game. Surely you’re a bit disappointed that United didn’t test one of the worst defences in the league a bit more?
Also I don’t buy into the narrative that United were solid and followed a game plan. Yes the result is probably what Mourinho came for but I don’t think it was part of the plan to let us have as many chances as we did. He even said after the game that his midfield two were struggling but he didn’t have anyone to bring on to change that. Certain players had poor games for you and made some silly mistakes which we weren’t able to punish.
Our form isn’t great but I think Chelsea and Arsenal’s problems seem to be as deep as ours are so top four is still very much achievable. We need to be more clinical though because we miss sitters on a regular basis.
As he didn't need three in the midfield. He went for the safe bet of having the extra man as opposed to bringing on another forward to try and unlock the defence.
I think with injuries to Pogba, Fellaini, Bailly the spine of our team was significantly weakened. With Rashford picking up a knock and Carrick being unfit to help out in the middle we were vastly limited to how we could set up and play.
Obviously you wouldn't because you'd like to think you dominated us through sheer skill and superiority when all we did was sit back and let you be in our half. If we had actually tried and made any effort we would have wiped the floor with you.
CAF - my apologies on the insensitive post from yesterday.
You know that posters on here do not like facts.
You know that posters on here do not like facts.
He should try winning some trophies instead of just throwing men forward. He’s lost so many tactical battles this season he’s being found out as a poor tactician with no back up plan.
You’d think they play the greatest football the world has ever seen the way he bangs on
You’d think they play the greatest football the world has ever seen the way he bangs on
Any other manager so frequently referring to 'bad luck' would be slaughtered.
I'm pretty sure that is in the back of Mourinhos mind when he set us up yesterday to play the same as last season. I would love to smash them every game but this is more fun and if we continue the way we are going while producing a few performances like the 2-0 against Chelsea last season against the top five then we can say that we don't need to win against Liverpool at Anfield. Liverpool can turn it on against the top teams all they want but the fact of the matter is they will concede dozens of goals through the season so in actual fact they are helping us more than we are helping them, suckers.
I think the only reason Klopp made any substitutions was due to tiredness to our front three, but I don’t think taking a midfielder out for a forward would’ve helped us win the game based on the opposition and the way the game was going.
I think you should’ve started with Lingard and Rashford personally (or maybe brought Rashford on earlier?). Both looked more effective at harrassing our back line when they came on. Mkhitaryan and Lukaku were largely anonymous.
I don’t think we were outstanding, but I think we were the better side on the day. You’re basically saying that United and Mourinho’s game plan was to not try and win the game at all. I don’t believe Mourinho went into this game thinking that his side couldn’t possibly win it.
My thoughts exactly, the best chance and attack in the match fell to Lukaku. Apart from that save from De Gea, which I kind of expect him to save since his reflexes and quick feet are so good, everything was a gentle roll right to him. We took a day off yesterday and came away with a point. We also gave a bit of false hope to that shite who's fans will insert in to the dusty anals of Liverpool history the glorious moral victory against the anti football United while omitting the league positions, form table and diving.
Rashford picked up an injury on international duty and wasn't really fit to play. Mourinho did believe he could win it but in his own words he was waiting for Klopp to change the system in the second half but he didn't so the game just petered out as it did.
I think Klopp could have done more to win it had he wanted to despite his claims post match. Liverpool at Anfield should be throwing the kitchen sink at it - they didn't.
He is fast becoming a parody. His heavy metal football is more like tin foil football. Takes a lot to get out of a cast iron suit of armor but wrap me in layer upon layer of tin foil and I could free myself with a gentle inhale. Anyways, they have a hard fought 0-1 win against Maribor coming up to help them relive their European giant tag they ejaculate on whenever the opportunity arises.
Very hard to do in Liverpool, usually there is a dipper climbing over it through a window to rob you're house.
That's if said kitchen sink hasn't been stolen already for scrap metal.
YNFA always do a good job of trolling all fanbases.
I just don’t understand why Klopp would change his midfield in a game where we were looking more likely to score. As Mourinho has said post match, switching from a three to a two and adding another attacking player would’ve allowed United more flexibility to change things in their favour. Why would Klopp do something that would weaken our chances of winning the game?
You’d assume that switching from a three to a two in midfield would benefit United more than us given how the game was going in the second half.
Just to be clear, I think United got a very good result yesterday. We don’t lose many at home and we dont fail to score very often either, so it’s hardly a bad result for you. It definitely keeps the momentum going more than playing well and losing does.
Since when were Can and Wijnaldum considered defensive midfielders?YNFA always do a good job of trolling all fanbases.
It was working up to the point of you not losing. You wasn't going to win.
You're right, should have been DEFECTIVE midfielders.
We understand you will refuse to admit Klopp setup his side to play cautious, i.e. more defensive. That's why he played three CMs versus two knowing that a two-man con of a midfield would be sliced by United's tactics. So suffocate the midfield and cut off the supply line. Then moan about the opposition tactics (Kloppology).
Are you serious? You honestly believe that if United went toe to toe with us at Anfield you would hammer us? Absolutely no chance. You have a superior defence and midfield and the GK but we rarely have an opponent outclass us or wipe the floor with us. When we lose it’s usually due to a counter attack goal or from a set piece. Only City have outclassed us. If United had opened up and attacked it would of given us more space so I highly doubt you would of wiped the floor with us.
We always play three midfielders and when one of Salah, Mane, Firmino or Coutinho has been missing it’s usually been a midfield three of Can, Wijnaldum and Henderson. If all four are fit then Coutinho drops into midfield in place of Can or Wijnaldum.
The fact that we couldn’t break you down is disappointing, but it wasn’t a defensive approach from Klopp. He played the strongest side that he could yesterday. Chamberlain hasn’t done anything in a Liverpool shirt to deserve a start and Sturridge has been poor for the most part.
If Mane had been fit and Klopp had gone for the same midfield three (excluding one of Mane, Firmino, Salah or Coutinho) then I’d agree that he opted for a safer option.
Do you genuinely believe that a side having 19 shots in a game = a defensive approach?
I don’t even understand what some of you are getting wound up at. There’s nothing wrong with Mourinho setting up like that but I think the lack of attacking threat against a very weak defence should disappoint you.
About 17 of those shots though were shite ones from about 30 yards out that either went miles wide or dribbled into the arms of De Gea.
I think Utd went there for a point and were very defensive.
Liverpool were the home side and needed the win more and so were more proactive but it wasn't like you ever went for it at any point. I think by about the hour mark you seemed pretty content with the point yourselves.
I actually thought we were a bit more cautious in the first half. At the start of the second half we looked more lively and like we might find a way through. Reading the match thread it seemed like a few of you were more concerned by the second half and the way the game was going after HT.
I think we played better in the first half and looked much more dangerous.
We still weren't great but we looked solid and at least we were trying to get forward. We had the Lukaku chance, the Matic shot that flew just wide and a few corners and dangerous looking free kicks.
2nd half we did absolutely nothing going forward, and our passing became incredibly sloppy. I think that's where the concern came from, Liverpool still didn't really create much.
Liverpool played better. We packed a bus. This doesn't need analysis. I don't know if it's still possible but Mourinho needs to just set up a team to go out and play. Playing like underdogs with our budget is unacceptable.
Klopp is the king of 'negative' tactics. He packs the midfield and presses like mad. Most managers leave their attackers further up the pitch but Klopp insists on them pressing the ball as well.
When was the last time a big game with Klopp was a tactically sophisticated event? It devolves into a turnover of possession every few minutes and fighting over second balls. Klopp's whole style of play revolves around disrupting the flow of the game and counter attacking.
Liverpool cannot break down packed defenses; which is a hall mark of negative teams. They rely on the other team committing numbers forward.
When was the last time a big game with Klopp was a tactically sophisticated event? It devolves into a turnover of possession every few minutes and fighting over second balls. Klopp's whole style of play revolves around disrupting the flow of the game and counter attacking.
Liverpool cannot break down packed defenses; which is a hall mark of negative teams. They rely on the other team committing numbers forward.
Whatever!
One thing he is totally ignorant about is that the hallmark of the great Liverpol teams of the past was the ability to sit back and soak up pressure then score a goal on the counter.
Of course back then they also had the luxury of the back pass which Hansen and Lawrenson used time and time again
completely agree!