Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

ShadesOfTomato said:
Drink driving, house burgled - sounds like Christmas wasn't great for Firmino. Probably goes some way to explaining his drop in form.
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Christmas from hell. Seems getting your house burgled has happened to quite a few footballers in North West in the last few years. Firmino, ADM and Fletcher of the top of my head.
DUI is just a braindead thing to do though.
 
Cassady said:
That was a protest when the Yanks tried to push him out on the sly. There was many protests infact. We won. We protested for justice for 27 years. We won that to . What the rest of the country don't understand is we in Liverpool stick together .

It's much more effective than wearing green and yellow scarfs lad.
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Ouch ! Right in the nuts that was. Peanut Butter felt that one.
 
Cassady said:
That was a protest when the Yanks tried to push him out on the sly. There was many protests infact. We won. We protested for justice for 27 years. We won that to . What the rest of the country don't understand is we in Liverpool stick together .

It's much more effective than wearing green and yellow scarfs lad.
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You scousers are very touchy of late!

The Rafa pictures were hilarious. Especially the photo of them two guys carrying a massive oil painting of him.

:lol:
 
Sphaero said:
As someone who followed his whole coaching career quite closely, it is actually quite fascinating reading about "taking on Liverpool´s bitterness", "becoming classless" or "losing the plot". You don´t have to like Klopp, as a personality he is simply too polarizing and extreme in some aspects to be universally well liked. However, if someone wants a good example of how important perceiption is, he just needs to follow the general climate towards Klopp in this forum.

When Klopp was still our coach, he could have been only be described as a Caf darling. Criticism was fairly low and he was lauded for his passion, emotionality, humour and ability to verbally connect with fans. The moment he took on the wrong red, these attributes were turned on it´s head and used against him:

- passion -> sore loser, lack of class
- emotional -> manic, unhinged
- humour -> attempt to butter up the media, insulting to the opposition (the Plymouth example fits perfectly here)
- connection to fans -> creating a cult following around him

Makes you wonder if they took Klopp and replaced him with a clone or host, right? There has actually not happened that much. He only changed his club from a likeable foreign club to a rival.

The job at Liverpool did not change his personality. As of yet, he did not do a single thing which he either did not do at Dortmund or would have looked out of place there. What changed for most on here (there were also people who liked/disliked him at Dortmund and continued to do so, but this is the minority) is just their relationship to him.
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Post claiming ignorance is actually ignorant.

It doesn't take much to figure that people didn't know klopp that well back then and are getting to know what he's really like only now. Watching him give an interview once in awhile is different from him managing in your league.
 
Cassady said:
That was a protest when the Yanks tried to push him out on the sly. There was many protests infact. We won. We protested for justice for 27 years. We won that to . What the rest of the country don't understand is we in Liverpool stick together .

It's much more effective than wearing green and yellow scarfs lad.
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:lol:
 
Why do Liverpool fans actually care what Man Utd fans think of their manager anyway?

Same goes for Jose. He is a Cnut but he is OUR Cnut now and a winner. Better than having nice guy Moyes looking clueless in the dugout.

The fact remains though. Liverpool fans treat their managers like gods. It's quite unnerving but then again nothing surprises me when it comes to that lot.

In their heads they are still the best club in the land with the best stadium, best players and best manager despite winning sweet feck all in ages.

Feck em. And I can't warm to the scousers here sorry. They're all nice and friendly when they're winning but a few of them have really started to show their true colours since their draw away at Sunderland.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Post claiming ignorance is actually ignorant.

It doesn't take much to figure that people didn't know klopp that well back then and are getting to know what he's really like only now. Watching him give an interview once in awhile is different from him managing in your league.
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This.

Klopp's over exuberance is likeable from a distance. Having it week on week can get tedious.

Moreover, quite a few posters here that don't enjoy Klopp also caveat that they aren't proud of Mourinhos antics either so I'm not sure where any double standard is coming from.
 
VP89 said:
This.

Klopp's over exuberance is likeable from a distance. Having it week on week can get tedious.

Moreover, quite a few posters here that don't enjoy Klopp also caveat that they aren't proud of Mourinhos antics either so I'm not sure where any double standard is coming from.
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Yeah. I've always been hugely critical of Mourinho. I've found him tedious over the years. I loved Klopps Dortmund for the football they played, but never knew much about the hype for his personality which has turned out to be totally bizarre as has some of his antics too. I don't see the contradiction there.
 
Cassady said:
That was a protest when the Yanks tried to push him out on the sly. There was many protests infact. We won. We protested for justice for 27 years. We won that to . What the rest of the country don't understand is we in Liverpool stick together .

It's much more effective than wearing green and yellow scarfs lad.
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Jesus wept.

How is it that everyone associated with this club turns into an utter buffoon?
 
Sphaero said:
As someone who followed his whole coaching career quite closely, it is actually quite fascinating reading about "taking on Liverpool´s bitterness", "becoming classless" or "losing the plot". You don´t have to like Klopp, as a personality he is simply too polarizing and extreme in some aspects to be universally well liked. However, if someone wants a good example of how important perceiption is, he just needs to follow the general climate towards Klopp in this forum.

When Klopp was still our coach, he could have been only be described as a Caf darling. Criticism was fairly low and he was lauded for his passion, emotionality, humour and ability to verbally connect with fans. The moment he took on the wrong red, these attributes were turned on it´s head and used against him:

- passion -> sore loser, lack of class
- emotional -> manic, unhinged
- humour -> attempt to butter up the media, insulting to the opposition (the Plymouth example fits perfectly here)
- connection to fans -> creating a cult following around him

Makes you wonder if they took Klopp and replaced him with a clone or host, right? There has actually not happened that much. He only changed his club from a likeable foreign club to a rival.

The job at Liverpool did not change his personality. As of yet, he did not do a single thing which he either did not do at Dortmund or would have looked out of place there. What changed for most on here (there were also people who liked/disliked him at Dortmund and continued to do so, but this is the minority) is just their relationship to him.
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I had no idea about how weird he was til he came to England. I'm sure loads here are the same and didn't pay much attention to him when he was in Germany
 
some kind of a likeness in there though, isn't there?

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Alex Styles said:
This is class!

Mourinho: “We managed to do something that is amazing which is to bring the fans to the pitch. I think we did that, last 15, 20 minutes. We played with 70,000, 80,000, I don’t know how many there are but we played with them. They were on the pitch. It was too much for a very good team. It was too much for a team very well organised. It was phenomenal because the players played so well and the fans, they were on the pitch.”
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Nice. After which game was that?
 
I went through various stages of Klopp-grief when he was announced as their manager, having been reasonably fond of him at Dortmund,

1. Shock
2. Denial
3. Jealousy
4. Begrudging Acceptance
5. Loathsome admiration
6. Thinking he's over-rated
7. Indifference
8. Seeing him as just another hyper-emotional, oddball scouser.
9. Thinking he's a bit of a knob

The first time I thought 'knob' was actually when he was still at Dortmund and I read his quotes about Shinji Kagawa and how they cried together when he told him he was leaving Dortmund.

The day he was announced as Liverpool manager I remembered that quote and a part of me thought he'd be perfect for that club given his penchant for bizarre, over-the-top sentimentality.
 
fcbforever said:
First of all, that's sad. He had his antiques when he was at Dortmund already and I called him out for that. But that's on the pitch. In his interviews, he's generally likeable, funny and sometimes eager to call out the press on their bullshit. I can acknowledge that.

An nope, I'm not supporting Liverpool, not interested in them. You could say at most I've got an "interest" in United as I won't ever be able to support two clubs. And this interest only awakened when things got interesting, eg. post Fergie. I followed the club, I saw the parallels to what happened at my club, I liked the forum and the atmosphere in it and I stayed.
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Fair play to you. However I never liked him, even when he was at Dortmund. Never wanted him anywhere near this club.
 
Rafateria said:
This is all pretty obvious. United forum, Liverpool manager .... let's all wade in and kick the bastard regardless of the truth ! Tribal mentality (TBF as with all forums dedicated to one club).
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Bullseye! You are learning :drool:
 
Peanut Butter said:
You scousers are very touchy of late!

The Rafa pictures were hilarious. Especially the photo of them two guys carrying a massive oil painting of him.

:lol:
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I aint touchy at all lad.

Iam just telling it how it is .

What happened to the scarf protest anyway ?
 
SwansonsTache said:
Atleast he is putting the effort in to integrate himself into Liverpool society.
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As somebody who has probably never spent a sizeable amount of time in the city (if any at all) why do you have an issue with Liverpudlian society?

Alex Styles said:
Did I mention that I love that Mourinho absolutely hates Liverpool?
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No, you didn't. But thanks for confirming.

A Man Utd fan that loves his manager hating Liverpool? Groundbreaking stuff.
 
Cassady said:
That was a protest when the Yanks tried to push him out on the sly. There was many protests infact. We won. We protested for justice for 27 years. We won that to . What the rest of the country don't understand is we in Liverpool stick together .

It's much more effective than wearing green and yellow scarfs lad.
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Bringing Hillsborough protests up in response to a light-hearted comment about a painting of Rafa.

What the feck is wrong with you people?
 
Nice bit of tasty rivalry in the thread in the lead up to the game, I like it :drool:
 
VanGaalEra said:
You guys really do struggle to read on Merseyside. I said TASTY rivalry not title.
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And I was belittling United.

feck me. I see sarcasm and wit has yet to don it's samba and jump on the Lime Street to Piccadilly Express.
 
Cassady is on a roll.

I must admit, that post about them protesting did bring a tear in my eye.
It was really touchy stuff.

I think next thing we should expect is a nice poem.


-as for Klopp I get the feeling half the stuff he says and does is not genuine. He's portrayed as super witty, funny, relaxed guy but most of the time it seems he' acting it and does it for the camera.


I expect 5, 6 posts from Liverpool fans and Dortmund ones too claiming I'm wrong.
 
Cassady said:
I aint touchy at all lad.

Iam just telling it how it is .

What happened to the scarf protest anyway ?
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I'll tell you what happened maybe you didn't hear, a whole new team and fanbase were created and Joined the lower leagues. Not exactly a small feat and slightly undermines your suggestion that someone it was a feigned protest.

Those that decided to do that did, while others who felt different didn't. It is bizarre that you should compare something that involved people dying and another thing that was a group of disgruntled fans protesting against US businessmen investing into their club. I remember all the crap by oppo fans about us our "Identity" and none more so by Liverpool fans with their usual false sense of moral superiority.

By the way, how did the protests against your US owners go?
 
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