Sounds pretty awesome to be honest.I'm alright, same old slog. Just got back from NZ and have been spending most of my time slothing in bed.
Sounds pretty awesome to be honest.I'm alright, same old slog. Just got back from NZ and have been spending most of my time slothing in bed.
I'm alright, same old slog. Just got back from NZ and have been spending most of my time slothing in bed.
Yep he's done absolutely nothing as a manager.Especially when Klopp has hardly proved himself either..
Good grief..Especially when Klopp has hardly proved himself either..
I'll always be team anti pundit. And to be fair this feels divisive because it's a Liverpool manager involved. The same people trying to defend Neville in this thread have been slating him in his own thread for his unfair punditry.Interesting divide of opinion in here.
Team Klopp or Team Neville?
Stupid comment wasn't it?He also took Dortmund to two titles and a Champions League and steered them to 7th or 6th place in the same season you are talking about but yeah, Gary Neville and Klopp have had VERY similar managerial careers.
Goodness me!Especially when Klopp has hardly proved himself either..
Especially when Klopp has hardly proved himself either..
Ok people cut with the BS now, it has really now become unsettling.Especially when Klopp has hardly proved himself either..
What Klopp fails to understand is that you don't have to be a world-class manager to see that Karius isn't good enough (at least now) - even my wife would see that and she doesn't even watch football.
I love the misnomers about Neville's managerial "failure". Valencia were shit before he came, shit during the few months he managed, and are still shit months after he left. Methinks he was not the common problem.
Losing respect for hypocrite Klopp at the moment.
Stop comparing Neville to 2 proven world class managers, it's kind of unsettling.
Neville has only had failures in his managerial stints, be it with Valencia or England.
I wasn't implying that. I was saying that just because you took a team to relegation zone as a manager, it doesn't reflect on your judgment of football players.It would have been difficult for him to talk about Neville's managerial successes though. You actually implied that the only difference between them as managers is that Klopp wasn't sacked for being terrible.
True. Another way to look at it is that Gary Neville tookover a bunch of numpties on their way down and couldn't inspire them whereas Klopp had the squad he built. Either way, the managerial ability has nothing to do with someone's judgment of a football player. Neville was commenting on Karius the player not Klopp the manager and he's well qualified to do so.It's a bit of a difference if you have 6 bad months sorrounded by 10 good years vs your entire career consisting of 6 bad months and then going back to being a pundit.
24 isn't young for a footballer.From what I've gathered from his statement I'd say that Klopp demands something more insightful and less short sighted from a pundit than calling someone a terrible player for having a few bad games, especially since the player in question is still quite young and just moved to a new league and much bigger club.
I don't like Klopp's comments but fully understand what his goal was here (protect the player) and won't say he is breaking down just because of those comments. If Ferguson said that about a pundit we would have all loved it.
Klopp hasn't achieved one fifth of what Neville did in the game, show some fecking respect.
So what, that excludes him of commenting on football and players?Klopp is right though. Nev doesn't understand football management very much.
He should have mentioned the fact that he preferred Hart to DDG while at it
Phil has commented too.
That's the main problem, together with him going all personal about his managerial career which is pretty low.Think it is fine for Klopp to open fire on the Nevilles, although I think his dig at Nevilles managerial career is a bit petty. They need to be called out on their callous and lazy criticism of foreign players, whilst staunchly giving all benefit of doubt to English players.
My only regret is that he didn't take aim at carragher who has embarrassed himself with all this as well.
Whenever Gary criticizes someone it's "He's not trying enough", "Put in more effort", "doesn't know what it means to represent the club" etc. Neither Gary nor Jamie have said one thing (That I saw) about how Karius could improve. Their criticism basically consists of "He's not good enough". How could Klopp take that seriously? Compare it to when someone like Ian Wright talks about underperforming players, he actually goes into tactics, positions etc. when he's tearing someone apart.
Gary was a great player, don't get me wrong. But he wanted to be a manager... took on a huge club and failed miserably. Afterwards he claimed he never really wanted to be a manager, might never again be a manager, and that the world offers to many possibilities to rule anything out. Yet a week later he's back on telly talking nonsense most of the time ("Players aren't trying hard enough. If players had the attitude we used to have, they'd be so much better etc."). He really can't blame real managers when they don't take him seriously.
Like so many other former greats, the man is a joke when he isn't doing what made him great (playing football). Similar things can be said about Carragher, but he's a LFC legend and Klopp isn't that stupid.
And I don't even like Klopp.
(Ps: I'm not defending Karius here, LFC should have a better keeper).