Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

The entire world could have a go at Neville - and he still wouldn't care. He is a semi-talented footballer who mostly by mentality made it to the top. He admits openly that he hates Liverpool, and probably the most hated United-player by the scousers. He had Ferguson as a manager for over 15 years, and he makes his living slaughtering footballers on national tv.


I dare say that no person in football today (media included), is more suited for taking negative comments :)
 
Interesting divide of opinion in here.

Team Klopp or Team Neville?
I'll always be team anti pundit. And to be fair this feels divisive because it's a Liverpool manager involved. The same people trying to defend Neville in this thread have been slating him in his own thread for his unfair punditry.

Anytime I see a player, manager or anyone stick it to these clueless pundits acting all knowing, i'm all in their corners.
 
What Klopp fails to understand is that you don't have to be a world-class manager to see that Karius isn't good enough (at least now) - even my wife would see that and she doesn't even watch football.
 
When Bournemouth's Steve Cook mentioned how they targeted Karius, Klopp called it "one of the worst things I've ever heard on my life" and that Cook should have "have respect for the player of th other team"

Now Klopp calls out Neville's professional ability as a manager and using that to ignore his opinion is ridiculous. Where's the respect for Gary Neville? Why didn't he criticise Carragher who was equally as damning about Karious?

Klopp is a manipulate fecker who has had the media on his side since he got to England but hopefully more people are seeing the bitterness and drivel he's coming out with.
 
He also took Dortmund to two titles and a Champions League and steered them to 7th or 6th place in the same season you are talking about but yeah, Gary Neville and Klopp have had VERY similar managerial careers.
Stupid comment wasn't it?
 
Especially when Klopp has hardly proved himself either..
Ok people cut with the BS now, it has really now become unsettling.

These are the simple facts:

-Klopp is a proven world class manager who has achieved success.

-Neville was a failure of a manager who did some horrifying job in Spain and also failed with England.
 
What Klopp fails to understand is that you don't have to be a world-class manager to see that Karius isn't good enough (at least now) - even my wife would see that and she doesn't even watch football.

From what I've gathered from his statement I'd say that Klopp demands something more insightful and less short sighted from a pundit than calling someone a terrible player for having a few bad games, especially since the player in question is still quite young and just moved to a new league and much bigger club.
 
I love the misnomers about Neville's managerial "failure". Valencia were shit before he came, shit during the few months he managed, and are still shit months after he left. Methinks he was not the common problem.

Losing respect for hypocrite Klopp at the moment.

Yeah they've not been doing well

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Just weird though with the players they have. Should be doing better.
 
Stop comparing Neville to 2 proven world class managers, it's kind of unsettling.

Neville has only had failures in his managerial stints, be it with Valencia or England.

I'm not comparing him to two proven world class managers, I'm making a point that calling out Neville for being a pundit just because he had a bad managerial experience is daft. He is a United legend, just as Carragher is a Liverpool legend. You don't see Klopp calling him out.

Klopp is talking about Neville as if he's never been involved in football.
 
It would have been difficult for him to talk about Neville's managerial successes though. You actually implied that the only difference between them as managers is that Klopp wasn't sacked for being terrible.
I wasn't implying that. I was saying that just because you took a team to relegation zone as a manager, it doesn't reflect on your judgment of football players.
It's a bit of a difference if you have 6 bad months sorrounded by 10 good years vs your entire career consisting of 6 bad months and then going back to being a pundit.
True. Another way to look at it is that Gary Neville tookover a bunch of numpties on their way down and couldn't inspire them whereas Klopp had the squad he built. Either way, the managerial ability has nothing to do with someone's judgment of a football player. Neville was commenting on Karius the player not Klopp the manager and he's well qualified to do so.
 
I don't like Klopp's comments but fully understand what his goal was here (protect the player) and won't say he is breaking down just because of those comments. If Ferguson said that about a pundit we would have all loved it.
 
I would imagine that the current run of games were identified as a "rest" period and fully expect "system" to be in place for the Christmas run of games starting with the derby....
 
From what I've gathered from his statement I'd say that Klopp demands something more insightful and less short sighted from a pundit than calling someone a terrible player for having a few bad games, especially since the player in question is still quite young and just moved to a new league and much bigger club.
24 isn't young for a footballer.
At what age can he start criticising players? 27?
 
It's good news for us though.

Klopp has strongly backed an absolute donkey and now has to play him or else he looks bad. He'll cost them plenty more points this season.
 
I don't like Klopp's comments but fully understand what his goal was here (protect the player) and won't say he is breaking down just because of those comments. If Ferguson said that about a pundit we would have all loved it.

Yeah and Fergie did it plenty. I still think managers and players are better off just ignoring pundits. At the end of the day thoughts and cares from the likes of Neville don't matter a jot.
 
Have the feeling that Gary Neville doesn't give a stuff what they say in response and is enjoying getting under their skin. :lol::lol:

But also hasn't Carragher slated Karius as well?
 
If Neville can get underneath hipster-Brendan's skin, I can't imagine how he'd handle a title chase with someone like Jose.
 
Klopp hasn't achieved one fifth of what Neville did in the game, show some fecking respect.

Exactly. It's not as if Neville is a fecking nobody in football, he was a major part of one of the most successful periods in United's history.
 
Manager just protecting his player. Having a pop at a united legend is an added bonus in endearing himself even further with the Liverpool fans. Those calling it a meltdown are laughable. He knows exactly what he's doing I'm afraid.
 
Klopp is right though. Nev doesn't understand football management very much.

He should have mentioned the fact that he preferred Hart to DDG while at it
So what, that excludes him of commenting on football and players?
 
Think it is fine for Klopp to open fire on the Nevilles, although I think his dig at Nevilles managerial career is a bit petty. They need to be called out on their callous and lazy criticism of foreign players, whilst staunchly giving all benefit of doubt to English players.

My only regret is that he didn't take aim at carragher who has embarrassed himself with all this as well.
 
I'll take Nev over Klopp every day of the week. On principle, of course (although this place is full of feckers who seemingly have no principles, so they may not quite understand), but also 'cause I once had a pint with him. Sort of.
 
Phil has commented too.

Oh yes. Said Karius should shut up and get on with his job or something..but why? Karius can reply if he feels he's being criticised too heavily.
 
Think it is fine for Klopp to open fire on the Nevilles, although I think his dig at Nevilles managerial career is a bit petty. They need to be called out on their callous and lazy criticism of foreign players, whilst staunchly giving all benefit of doubt to English players.

My only regret is that he didn't take aim at carragher who has embarrassed himself with all this as wel
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That's the main problem, together with him going all personal about his managerial career which is pretty low.
 
Whenever Gary criticizes someone it's "He's not trying enough", "Put in more effort", "doesn't know what it means to represent the club" etc. Neither Gary nor Jamie have said one thing (That I saw) about how Karius could improve. Their criticism basically consists of "He's not good enough". How could Klopp take that seriously? Compare it to when someone like Ian Wright talks about underperforming players, he actually goes into tactics, positions etc. when he's tearing someone apart.

Gary was a great player, don't get me wrong. But he wanted to be a manager... took on a huge club and failed miserably. Afterwards he claimed he never really wanted to be a manager, might never again be a manager, and that the world offers to many possibilities to rule anything out. Yet a week later he's back on telly talking nonsense most of the time ("Players aren't trying hard enough. If players had the attitude we used to have, they'd be so much better etc."). He really can't blame real managers when they don't take him seriously.

Like so many other former greats, the man is a joke when he isn't doing what made him great (playing football). Similar things can be said about Carragher, but he's a LFC legend and Klopp isn't that stupid.

And I don't even like Klopp.

(Ps: I'm not defending Karius here, LFC should have a better keeper).

Gary Neville has played with some excellent keepers in big Pete, Davie Semen, VDS and DDG. He's not a goalkeeping coach obviously, he doesn't know what being a great keeper takes. He's more commenting on how far from those keepers someone like Karius appears to be.
 
He can protect Karius all he likes, but if he (Karius) carries on producing mistakes he will be forced into action sooner rather than later. The best way to answer your critics is to prove them wrong, otherwise exacerbating the situation whilst continually being poor will make you look more the fool. Karius, and Klopp for that matter have been rattled by Neville(s), because they aren't paying attention to Carra who's been equally as scathing. It's personal to them.

Neville needs to drop this too though. He should restrict his comments solely to punditry and not get involved in these petty arguments.
 
First signs of Klopp struggling with the pressure of managing a team who's supporters have unrealistic expectations.

He is a one trick pony, has no Plan B and is getting found out. The players are already shattered and picking up injuries left and right because of his triple training sessions in pre-season.

Karius looks a flop and Klopp has got two dud goalkeepers to choose from.

That isn't the Neville brothers fault or Jamie's Carragher's. It's Klopp's. The woman's glasses wearing, five time's final losing, moany git.
 
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Doesn't matter what Klopp or Neville say about our German keeper, because until he proves himself not to be a shit goalkeeper people will call him a shit goalkeeper. DDG was helping United win titles at a similar age. Our man looks like he'll cost us a shot at winning the title this season.