Not sure where you pulled that stat from since we've not conceded any goals from open play in the last 5 games.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Let's face it. If United were in our position right now, playing the same type of football, creating lots of chances & scoring lots of goals, this place would be a wank-fest & Jose would be the 2nd coming. Opinions are a little more conservative because it's Liverpool. Can't understand why.
Indeed and the certain person who keeps calling Coutinho a "one trick pony" should watch the highlights of yesterday's match.
Klopp's after match comments also - brilliant, so nice to have a manager with some charisma.
And to think in the summer we had a negative net spend.
They've got a chance. But I fancy City for the league personally. They are the most complete team and I see them finishing at least 5 points ahead or Liverpool.
Then you're not very good at comprehension. But I'll help you out - you're on a United forum. If you want a proper wank fest for your team go to the wank Liverpool forums and indulge in the collective jizz with your fellow Liverpool supporters (following which you'll fail to win the title of course). The fact that you can't figure out why your rival teams fans are conservative in their praise towards your manager says more about you to be honest given its pretty much the standard reaction you'd get anywhere.
Nah I really don't see us challenging for the title this season at all.
Have to say that I was one of the Coutinho doubters at the start of the campaign, but he has improved his consistency ten fold this season. I don't honestly think Liverpool have the squad depth to challenge for the title though. It will be interesting to see how Klopp's pressing affects the players as the season progresses, but they have made an impressive start.
Mane was the player that I had hoped we would chase this summer, if he can become more consistent then they have some serious attacking power. A few injuries in central midfield or defence could really damage Liverpool's chances, I feel.
Mane was the player that I had hoped we would chase this summer, if he can become more consistent then they have some serious attacking power. A few injuries in central midfield or defence could really damage Liverpool's chances, I feel.
Spurs and Arsenal will bottle it as usual, us and Chelsea are just not good enough this season. So that leaves City or Liverpool. Meh.
Find it funny that most think they wont win against the small teams, because they had difficulties last season. Difference is they are miles better now, with Lallana, Sturridge, Firmino, Coutinho and Mane, most small teams cant handle them. One of them is always on form and will save them somehow if needed.
I see them and City going toe to toe til the end unfortunately, that will be clear in a month or two when both of them will be ahead of anyone else going into respectively after the festive period.
Find it funny that most think they wont win against the small teams, because they had difficulties last season. Difference is they are miles better now, with Lallana, Sturridge, Firmino, Coutinho and Mane, most small teams cant handle them. One of them is always on form and will save them somehow if needed.
I see them and City going toe to toe til the end unfortunately, that will be clear in a month or two when both of them will be ahead of anyone else going into respectively after the festive period.
Ha ha ha ! Seems someone doesn't understand an ironic statement when they see one.
Damn. Didn't see your post& you're not very good at irony.
If the are lucky with injuries, they'll go close as they have a formula that's hard to play against. Goalkeeper might cost them a view games though....
Pretty poor attempt at irony, to be honest. 5/10.& you're not very good at irony.
Very good answer to an uncalled for remark.
An even poorer attempt at digging yourself out of a hole 0/10
Mourinho has won the league with a negative net spend. It's not really spectacular.
Liverpool to win it by end of april I reckon.
Think city will win it but it's great to be competitive at least and the football is lovely to watch.
I was there yesterday and defensively we are better. Matip is a proper defender btw, reminds me of Hansen in the way he's very calm. Their goal was the only mistake in the entire game. Very pleased in how we are playing atm.
I was there yesterday and defensively we are better. Matip is a proper defender btw, reminds me of Hansen in the way he's very calm. Their goal was the only mistake in the entire game. Very pleased in how we are playing atm.
I thought LFC were less impressive than they have been previously yesterday. Together with their really poor performance last Monday too, . Hopefully they are plateau-ing out after a hot start. Klopp has over-cooked the training, the soft pens dry up, mid table by March, maybe a League Cup Final appearance to get excited about.
More seriously, I don't think overall that much has happened yet. 4 of the 6 serious contenders have made good starts, the 2 that play each other today maybe not so much,.
My new theory, the League season divides into 3 thirds nowadays. Like a book, beginning, middle & end, comprising of 12/13 games = 38. So you can see where we are, nearly at the end of part 1, we know who is in the frame or more likely who isn't - you won't win it with a run from behind these days if 4 or 5 teams are 6-8pts in front even at this stage. Or you need to win 10 games on the spin to be doing it, curiously & as a contradiction it seems somehow that it ought to be easier to win a big run of games these days. But then the European fixture congestion saps the strength of those likely to do it.
The last 12 games are a lottery for me, what looks easy now can be difficult because previously poor teams find a new player or new Manager from somewhere & get a run of form, tough games become easy because they have already gone to the beach or events have sapped morale or whatever.
These middle 12-13 should be more predictable now, the freshness has gone, some teams are going to accept that they are crap & start getting thrashed, losers of Chelsea/Utd today probably have to accept it is NOT their year.
Taking all factors into account Liverpool are as well placed as anybody atm aren't they? That's all we know really.
. Hopefully they are plateau-ing out after a hot start. Klopp has over-cooked the training, the soft pens dry up, mid table by March, maybe a League Cup Final appearance to get excited about.More seriously, I don't think overall that much has happened yet. 4 of the 6 serious contenders have made good starts, the 2 that play each other today maybe not so much,
.My new theory, the League season divides into 3 thirds nowadays. Like a book, beginning, middle & end, comprising of 12/13 games = 38. So you can see where we are, nearly at the end of part 1, we know who is in the frame or more likely who isn't - you won't win it with a run from behind these days if 4 or 5 teams are 6-8pts in front even at this stage. Or you need to win 10 games on the spin to be doing it, curiously & as a contradiction it seems somehow that it ought to be easier to win a big run of games these days. But then the European fixture congestion saps the strength of those likely to do it.
The last 12 games are a lottery for me, what looks easy now can be difficult because previously poor teams find a new player or new Manager from somewhere & get a run of form, tough games become easy because they have already gone to the beach or events have sapped morale or whatever.
These middle 12-13 should be more predictable now, the freshness has gone, some teams are going to accept that they are crap & start getting thrashed, losers of Chelsea/Utd today probably have to accept it is NOT their year.
Taking all factors into account Liverpool are as well placed as anybody atm aren't they? That's all we know really.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...er-world-football-past-10-years-makes-10.html
Yeah, he's pretty thrifty is Jose. That article is from January so you need to factor in how much he's spent thus far at United.
How about some kind of Alternative Net Spend League where the ££££ you don't have to start with, has 10 x the value of someone else not having it either, but those that do have it, you get an extra point for beating them?
And then think about that while you see that Leicester are winning the real one by 10 clear points.
And then think about that while you see that Leicester are winning the real one by 10 clear points.
what has this got to do with anything I said?
The poster I quoted talked about NET spend.
Man Utd or City cannot win points per net spend; goals per net spend, etc. So I personally think it is disingenuous for Liverpool and Spurs fans to keep bringing up this point.
Don't give a feck about net spend, It's not my money.
However...
Mane is a great signing for 30+mil but Matip for me is the buy of the season. The lads got everything and to get him on a free is a belting buy.
However...
Mane is a great signing for 30+mil but Matip for me is the buy of the season. The lads got everything and to get him on a free is a belting buy.
The bigger picture is that Klopp is re-building the squad.
The main reason why is that he sold or released so many players in the summer, should help for future windows. So for Liverpool net spend was an important factor, given the money wasted in the past.
Liverpool in it for the long haul this season, the next "Leicester" story
You stated that winning the league with a negative net spend wasn't that spectacular. Having one season with a negative net-spend figure after being one of the biggest spenders in previous years isn't really that spectacular, I agree. Taking over a club that had lost 3 top class players (Suarez, Gerrard, & Sterling) & have them being talked about as a possible title contender after being in the job for just one year, & showing a profit in transfer dealings, is pretty spectacular. Wouldn't you agree ?
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I have been so impressed with Lallana this season. One of the best players in the PL so far?
I really fecking hope not.
Go on, in that context it's certainly something to think about. Basically, Klopp is smashing all the rest off the park given his meagre resources. And some of those with unlimited ££££ are making a right hash of it. Can't think who that specifically applies to just now but it's a fair point.
Money helps but doesn't solve all your problems & might create new ones in the wrong hands.
The funniest part in all of this is how Arsenal doesn't get mentioned as title contender despite being joint top and in a good run during this period.
It's like people are already expecting them to bottle it at some point so no need to bother mentioning them
Thats my point, although I think I should have worded it better.
We concede very few chances from open play and this season its only getting better with the new backline.I think long term though money will eventually win. Leicester are an ideal example for both arguments.
For sure it is a relevant point with respect to squad building, but I cannot see why it reinforces or even support arguments about current form, about how well you're doing.
That's exactly it. I just want to see us be in top 4 at least. Talk of a title is just very premature.
They are all out!
It's our year lads!
It's our year lads!
Agreed. We look so much steadier in open play since Matip came in. This is the first season in ages that several signings have come in and improved the starting XI. We're a better team with Wijnaldum playing and Matip/Mane have both been excellent.
It looks like Klopp has a better idea of what he wants from his players and how to get it than Rodgers ever did.
How many times do we have to say that we're not going to win it? I want a Champions League spot and that's the limit of my expectations.
If you read this thread you'd think Liverpool have the best manager in the world, the best tactics in the world, the best signing in Matip in the world, the best net spend in the world, the best new stadium in the world, the best cameta angle in the world, the best forwards in the world. .
& that's just the opinion of some of the United fans on here.