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This is rather annoying.
Love Klopp. Hate Liverpool.
Feck.
Love Klopp. Hate Liverpool.
Feck.
Also, the point with Klopp isn't to base a judgment purely on the 11 games he's been in charge of; it's to see the trajectory of the performances in terms of quality and potential. Surely it's pretty obvious that the side is looking stronger and the squad isn't as average as some may have thought.
You are optimistic which is fair enough. I prefer to see how the chips fall when all is said and done rather than go into headless chicken mode after Liverpool win a League Cup game.
I would stick with LVG for now. I am not getting giddy or upset because Liverpool beat Southampton in the League Cup. In Liverpool's last home game they sneaked past Swansea 1-0 scoring a penalty whilst managing a pathetic 10 shots in the whole game, one more than Swansea. Aside from the City game Klopp's Liverpool have been poor and involved in dull games in the league.
He won the Champions League with Ajax FFS. I suppose that level of competition doesn't match up to your standards.
I would stick with LVG for now. I am not getting giddy or upset because Liverpool beat Southampton in the League Cup. In Liverpool's last home game they sneaked past Swansea 1-0 scoring a penalty whilst managing a pathetic 10 shots in the whole game, one more than Swansea. Aside from the City game Klopp's Liverpool have been poor and involved in dull games in the league.
Watch Klopp add very few to this team in the coming windowsI don't know if he bought very well, but these players are definitely much better than what rodgers got from them.
Even Lovren.
My problem exactly.After a generation of dross 'they' finally have a top manager again.This is rather annoying.
Love Klopp. Hate Liverpool.
Feck.
I think there's an overreaction. I watched their game against Swansea and they looked ordinary. But they have clearly improved. Helps that the have more attacking options with more pace.
I don't expect Newcastle to put up any resistance this weekend.
Looking at your posts about Klopp's and van Gaal's pressing, you're the one who seems to be going into 'headless chicken mode', to be honest.
How is taking 10 shots pathetic? We hardly ever have more. We had 12 against a terrible Sunderland team at home. 5 at Palace.
Guess the team: average shots per game 10.4
Mr. objective analysis reporting in.
I agree with that - but I don't think you will ever do under LVGCrap. They both have flaws in their squad like us. You could also make a strong claim that we are not playing to our full potential.
We are boring though.
You not playing to your potential is why a I fancy finishing above you. Van gaal looks to have a ceiling with this team. Who knows what Klopps ceiling is with this team. We're going in the right direction though.Crap. They both have flaws in their squad like us. You could also make a strong claim that we are not playing to our full potential.
We are boring though.
Neither did any of the Liverpool fans on here ever dispute that our home form has been bang average this season, even under Klopp.Our attack has been pathetic this year. I did not dispute that.
I don't see how you can deduce that from me not panicking or caring about Klopp and Liverpool.
Still, you're tragically wrong if you think Klopp's pressing is less 'intelligent' or 'coordinated' than van Gaal's.
I agree.
I was a fan of LvG's work at Bayern but his pressing was never particularly impressive, even before the whole System collapsed in 2010/11. Imo the pressing introduced by Heynckes and modified by Guardiola are the main differences and improvements compared to the Dutchman's tenure.
Because those managers that proceeded him improved the team.Those squads, especially the squad now is a lot better than what LVG had at Bayern. I don't mean strictly in terms of personnel either. I include players being at the peak of their powers too.
I was sick when his Bayern side knocked United out of the CL. At the point in time they were not impressive, on paper anyway.
I agree.
I was a fan of LvG's work at Bayern but his pressing was never particularly impressive, even before the whole System collapsed in 2010/11. Imo the pressing introduced by Heynckes and modified by Guardiola are the main differences and improvements compared to the Dutchman's tenure.
If you watched them against Swansea, you would not have been shocked. They will have the same problem against West Brom.More than the result I was shocked by how poor Liverpool were, they didn't threaten at all.
More than the result I was shocked by how poor Liverpool were, they didn't threaten at all.
Plus it doesn't mean all that much when the manger's system thrives on big teams that control games and can be suspect against weaker teams that sit back and soak up pressure. Either way they've blown a big opportunity to make up ground and that's fecking great.Playing all the hard games away from home first is DEFINITELY not an advantage. I have no idea why people think this.
You now have hard games at home and every away game is a struggle in the premier league.