Julian Nagelsmann | Sacked and replaced by Tuchel

Ubik said:
Seems straightforward to me - decide playing style, appoint appropriate manager for that playing style, sign players appropriate for that playing style.
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That's how I understand it. The only issue, which to me isn't one, is that it means that some of our key players are done. If they decided that we need to be a possession team, then good luck doing that with Rashford or Bruno as cornerstones.
 
JPRouve said:
That's how I understand it. The only issue, which to me isn't one, is that it means that some of our key players are done. If they decided that we need to be a possession team, then good luck doing that with Rashford or Bruno as cornerstones.
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Yeah, I fully expect us to fudge that, at least for the first season.
 
GhastlyHun said:
Not at Bayern
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You guys are weird. Success only seems to matter when it happens in your domicile (Ancelotti, Kroos etc). Anywhere else you deem it irrelevant and hammer down dissent on anyone who thinks otherwise.
 
RoyH1 said:
You guys are weird. Success only seems to matter when it happens in your domicile (Ancelotti, Kroos etc). Anywhere else you deem it irrelevant and hammer down dissent on anyone who thinks otherwise.
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You're missing the point, the entire discussion was about managers at Bayern and how Zidane could end up as another Ancelotti for us. Both have had huge success elsewhere, but the question was/is whether they could transfer whatever made that success to the current constellation at Bayern. I don't know where you get 'hammering down dissent' from all of this.
 
giggs-beckham said:
Absolutely, relevant manager for the desired style we want, common sense. The article doesn't suggest this however more do hire manager to suit current crop, hope I've mis understood
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Exactly how I read it or it's just not true. However, if it is, then I have some doubts about Ineos.
 
Would like to see him as the next United manager in the event ETH is sacked. Unless McKenna really impresses with Ipswich.
 
Samid said:
Did we miss a trick?
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Not necessarily.

He's an elite manager, but it's not often that you have someone like him managing a country instead of a club. He's by far the best manager in this tournament, but that's not saying much. International football is usually for managers on the decline.
 
Rojofiam said:
Not necessarily.

He's an elite manager, but it's not often that you have someone like him managing a country instead of a club. He's by far the best manager in this tournament, but that's not saying much. International football is usually for managers on the decline.
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You think he is on the decline? I think he isn't even 40 yet. I agree, he is a good coach and his approach is probably well suited to international football as he has a reputation of being flexible to bring out the best of a given squad at hand. But it isn't like he failed hard at Bayern. Maybe it was a bit too early to have a gig like that coming with all the drama and stuff. He might have been a little too overeager as well trying to force things that weren't popular.
 
NZT-One said:
You think he is on the decline? I think he isn't even 40 yet. I agree, he is a good coach and his approach is probably well suited to international football as he has a reputation of being flexible to bring out the best of a given squad at hand. But it isn't like he failed hard at Bayern. Maybe it was a bit too early to have a gig like that coming with all the drama and stuff. He might have been a little too overeager as well trying to force things that weren't popular.
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I think they are saying the exact opposite
 
NZT-One said:
You think he is on the decline? I think he isn't even 40 yet. I agree, he is a good coach and his approach is probably well suited to international football as he has a reputation of being flexible to bring out the best of a given squad at hand. But it isn't like he failed hard at Bayern. Maybe it was a bit too early to have a gig like that coming with all the drama and stuff. He might have been a little too overeager as well trying to force things that weren't popular.
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No. I think he’s too good for international football and it’s unusual for someone like him to manage on the international stage instead of club football. Not on the decline at all, his managerial career is still in its early days and he will more than likely achieve big things in the next 20+ years.
 
Rojofiam said:
No. I think he’s too good for international football and it’s unusual for someone like him to manage on the international stage instead of club football. Not on the decline at all, his managerial career is still in its early days and he will more than likely achieve big things in the next 20+ years.
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That makes sense, I agree. I misunderstood your text, mea culpa.
 
Stadjer said:
Was he ever an option?
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Probably not. He decided to stay in Bavaria for family reasons (be able to be a dad to the children he has with his divorced wife and who live with her, so wouldn't move elsewhere with him). That effectively leaves only two possible jobs for him: Bayern München, or the German national team.
 
He would have been my first choice if we sacked ETH. Like him as a person and manager
 
Was the only manager that I would’ve sacked ETH for.

He is a very good manager, and could be the guy we bring in if ETH doesn’t have a good start to the season. Just depends if he wishes to coach in the World Cup 2026, and obviously he needs to consider his family in his decision too.
 
I know it's only Scotland and being the opening game Germany would've been naturally bouyed but I thought their press was fantastic last night, their shape was tight and their play between the lines was exceptional. Clearly very well drilled
 
Can someone shed some light about Nagelsmann and his position as Germany coach ? I heard when he joined the NT that it was somewhat short term (ie Euros) is it actually the case ? I'd love for us to snag him ASAP as I loved what he did with Leipzig, and I'm really fed up with ETH Ball for some time now.
 
Redstain said:
Timings interesting this was before the Euro's, I'd imagine it was due to rumors which likely would have escalated in the summer.

I would take him over Erik any day of the week.
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There is three or four names I would prefer over Erik and this guy is definitely second on list
 
croadyman said:
There is three or four names I would prefer over Erik and this guy is definitely second on list
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Who are the others? No wait, let me guess - just realistically available names or also pipe dreams?
Ok, just whoever:
Pep
Nagelsmann
Tuchel
Klopp

Realistic:
Tuchel
Nagelsmann
Carlo (maybe)
 
GhastlyHun said:
Who are the others? No wait, let me guess - just realistically available names or also pipe dreams?
Ok, just whoever:
Pep
Nagelsmann
Tuchel
Klopp

Realistic:
Tuchel
Nagelsmann
Carlo (maybe)
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Probably has to be Tuchel or Nagelsmann. Most proven and both relatively accessible.

Then you start veering into riskier options like Amorim, McKenna, Xavi. Other not that good managers who were linked include Frank, Pochettino, Potter.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Probably has to be Tuchel or Nagelsmann. Most proven and both relatively accessible.

Then you start veering into riskier options like Amorim, McKenna, Xavi. Other not that good managers who were linked include Frank, Pochettino, Potter.
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Hasn't Tuchel just taken the USA job?
 
DWelbz19 said:
Probably has to be Tuchel or Nagelsmann. Most proven and both relatively accessible.

Then you start veering into riskier options like Amorim, McKenna, Xavi. Other not that good managers who were linked include Frank, Pochettino, Potter.
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I think going to Tuchel would be a step backwards, it would in essence be like us going from LVG to Jose, shifting the type of football we have started to build a squad for just to try and win some trophies (which we have done anyway). It would have to be a manager who likes to play on the front foot, attacking, modern football. I don't think we should chase glory just because we haven't won the league in a bit and try and hire a short term manager to try and win a league.

I do think if Ten Hag goes this season (and I hope he can turn things around), that we will be in a better position regarding replacements. We will know a lot more about some of the riskier options. McKenna will have had a season in the premier league, Alonso would show whether he was a 1 season wonder etc. Even Nagglesman would only have 1 year left on his contract. In addition we wouldn't be competing with too many big clubs for a manager. So INEOS should be patient, if the season ends up being a poor one then so be it. I would take Nagglesman, going back on topic, as he ticks the boxes in terms of a progressive, modern manager.
 
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