So which Spanish manager is in Russia doing punditry?
Julen Lopetegui watch
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If Ramos wins the World Cup he will be the first player-coach to do it in the history of the game.
One of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen.
The Spanish FA should have maintained calm and harmony during the WC and seriously reparmanded Lopetegui after it (with a hefty fine and a ban from coaching the national team for the next 10 yrs)
They've really shot themselves in the foot. Anything less than a semifinal and everyone is going to blame the Spanish FA.
The Spanish FA should have maintained calm and harmony during the WC and seriously reparmanded Lopetegui after it (with a hefty fine and a ban from coaching the national team for the next 10 yrs)
They've really shot themselves in the foot. Anything less than a semifinal and everyone is going to blame the Spanish FA.
So much for tapping up De Gea. Good news for us and good news for eventual World Cup 2018 winners Brazil/Germany/France.
Heh, lopetegui had the backing of the team. It's 2 days before Spain's world cup starts. You think him making a decision that goes against what the players want, that might sabotage their chances, 2 days before the WC starts, has no personal motivation?
Think they blame will be spread around a bit more than that.
What a childish, egotistical FA Spain has, simply cutting their nose off to spite their face..... surely they will simply just appoint the assistant manager now.
Why? They simply had no need to sack the guy, unbeaten as Spain manager with a real chance of winning it.
Why? They simply had no need to sack the guy, unbeaten as Spain manager with a real chance of winning it.
Couldn't Ramos twist Rubales arm to change his mind
I was thinking that. If he is going to take decisions on a personal basis he should not be in charge as he is not thinking what is best for the National team.
It's completely possible and the reasons he gave seem fair. If he had a personal motivation to get rid of Lopetegui why did he renew with him 3 weeks ago? Doesn't really make sense.
If Real and the manager had behaved properly it wouldn't have come to this.
Can perfectly be that they consider that a club manager has interests that may be in the way of a good nt management.
As I said before, he could just not renovate him. There was no need for it, but he still did it. I think it was pretty clear he was making an instance that he approved of Lopetegui's position.
Yes 
Way i see it there are two possibilities here:
1) Pettiness
2) surprising coherence
I'm naturally inclined to see the worst in people, especially when it comes to us southern europeans, so..
1) Pettiness
2) surprising coherence
I'm naturally inclined to see the worst in people, especially when it comes to us southern europeans, so..
Agreed, they could have held off with announcing it, but the only people that will lose her is the NT and the Spanish FA. Real are hated already, they wont give a feck.
The alternative was to silence rumors the whole time during the WC in press conferences, players asking Lopetegui if the rumors are true, fans questioning him everytime he got off the bus and so on. Every decision was going to be the wrong one anyway.
That was the plan, problem is it was leaked...
Why ? France has been peaceful since Benzema fecked off
Honestly don't think that would have happened, I mean Lopetegui to Madrid was well out of left field.
It baffles me sometimes how people in such high positions make such stupid decisions.
It shows...i believe the word is integrity? Being true to your principles even when it clearly works against you? Rubiales got the job by seeling himself as the opposite of Villar. So this decision is actually in line with what he promised
Observe the attitude and behaviour of an F.A that wins trophies...
No fecking about at all.
Good on them I say, and I have no bias toward Spain (I'm English).
No fecking about at all.
Good on them I say, and I have no bias toward Spain (I'm English).
Lopetegui is the one to blame for me. You cannot have it all at the same time. Yes, RM is a dream job but you cannot not warm your employer, specially with the WC looming
He put his own interest well before his country's.
I applaud the Spanish F.A, it takes balls to stick to your principle like that.
He put his own interest well before his country's.
I applaud the Spanish F.A, it takes balls to stick to your principle like that.
I'm baffled by the people who can't see why Spain did this.
Am I missing something here? It’s standard operating procedure to not tell your employer when you’re talking to a future one. You tell them when you’ve got your new job and then work your 4 weeks notice at the old place. Exactly what happened here.
The fact that you’re going elsewhere in a month’s time AFTER the tournament should have no bearing on your ability to do the job in the meantime.
The Spanish Football Federation bloke sounds like an absolute cretin.
The fact that you’re going elsewhere in a month’s time AFTER the tournament should have no bearing on your ability to do the job in the meantime.
The Spanish Football Federation bloke sounds like an absolute cretin.
I can see why they did it, but I don't think it was a good idea. Unbeaten manager leading the NT into the WC with a good chance of progressing. Ok they have their principles and morals in check but this is football, the team captain wanted the manager to stay, the majority of the team is Madrid players, the dressing room is going to be pretty fecked now.
Do you mean Lopetegui ? i don't know about that. National team coaches in the past have taken club jobs before major tournaments. I don't think the FA of their respective countries have held that against those coaches.
Yes, this particular appointment was done in a wrong way and the announcement by Madrid was badly timed. But that isn't enough reason to destablize the team by firing the coach a few days before the tournament.
A wrongly timed right decision in some cases is as good as a wrong decision.
And the idea is to punish Lopetegui. There were many ways to do this. This could end up being a punishment for the entire team and the fans.
Unbeaten in qualifiers/friendlies means nothing when you're managing a decent side like Spain.
I applaud them sticking to their principles.
Why are there people criticizing the Spanish FA when it’s obviously lopetegui & Real Madrid being sneaky cnuts and going behind everybody’s back to do a deal?
You can’t just inform your boss 5 minutes before a public announcement that another company with working relationships have headhunted you over to take up the same role and not expect to pay the price for it.
I believe the words here are integrity & honesty. Those questioning the Spanish FA probably have neither.
You can’t just inform your boss 5 minutes before a public announcement that another company with working relationships have headhunted you over to take up the same role and not expect to pay the price for it.
I believe the words here are integrity & honesty. Those questioning the Spanish FA probably have neither.
Why isn't he blamed though ? I am hardly seeing anything condemning him. Lopetegui is a real cnut
Only Lopetegui to blame for this. Unbelievable that he didn't tell the Spanish FA till 5 minutes before the announcement. Only one way and that is down.
The Spanish FA have put themselves ahead of everyone. There's no footballing benefit to this decision and it has destabilized things even further. The team has trained with this coach for the past 2 years and are familiar with his methods. How is sacking him 2 days before the tournament going to benefit the team in any way? Its not like clubs haven't announced deals with national team coaches before.
Come on lets not pretend tapping up doesn't happen, my god you guys hail Agent Pogba
.My feelings on the situation. Sneaky.
Him taking the job is not the problem. It is how he and Real went about it.
Understandable decision by the Spanish FA.
Come on lets not pretend tapping up doesn't happen, my god you guys hail Agent Pogba
They could have tapped him up all summer and throughout the tournament. When they (Madrid and the manager) pulled the trigger was the problem.
You could not write the absolute circus that surrounds RM.
He put his personal gain before Spain's clearly.
Good decision IMO. He clearly put his own interests above Spain NT. He has signed a contract with Real in what, 2 weeks after Zidane resigned? Clearly shows he wasn't fully focused on NT then and what makes it even worse is that apparently the FA was kept in the dark up until the announcement which was also made at the worst possible time. A complete circus and Lopetegui is the only one to blame.