Agree entirely. I'd be very disappointed if we went with the Todd Boehly approach.
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Agree entirely. I'd be very disappointed if we went with the Todd Boehly approach.
Doh, I knew that.
And that sounds ideal for him to be understudy to, and takeover from Casemiro. He can play in League Cup and FA Cup in the mean-time.
He’s off to Liverpool, both him and his father are huge Liverpool fans, they will get a loan to do that deal and can’t see us highjacking it, hopefully Madrid Nick him which is another serious option.
I'm not sure that would be in his best interest. At his age, he needs to play week in, week out. Which he does at Antwerp. Good chance he'll get to play in Europa League next year too.
He'll go to United if they prioritise him
A bad start to next season will likely put Klopp under pressure of a sacking
A bad start to next season will likely put Klopp under pressure of a sacking
Close the thread guys.
If Qatar buy Utd, I suspect many elite players including Bellingham, would be very attracted to the huge project of making Utd a dominant force again, having said that, I suspect Ten Hag would prefer De Jong.
What mental Alice in Wonderland fantasy are you living in?
Don't want Dortmund players
I don't understand those saying ETH wouldn't want a player like Bellingham. Gravenberch is a similar profile and ETH actually approached him even before we were interested in Frenkie. I think ETH would love Bellingham if we got him but I think Frenkie will suit the team better
The scousers think they have this deal in the bag oh wait Klopp used to manage Dortmund so has some insight, the player has had one chance to join us already and said no, yes money talks and I’d love him here but if he’s a scouse fan no thanks !
What a terrible deal
We've been stung too many times by BvB - stay well clear clear, FDJ all the way.
I really think we have a great chance of signing Bellingham this summer. More chance than most people think.
If Liverpool have no Champions League football plus the club still isn't sold, will the owners really commit to £100m+ ?
Chelsea must be on the brink of what they can spend to stay within FFP.
Madrid could do it but the Spanish league isn't what it used to be, everyone wants to be in the Premier League at the moment.
Realistically Man City could have a great chance, they have the money + Bellinghams ex team mate Haaland will only say good things. But will the investigation they're under effect what they can do?
Man Utd will have Champions league football, potentially offer the best wages with the new owners coming in, have an exciting European manager and will compete regularly for trophies now.
We really should be pushing for this deal
If Liverpool have no Champions League football plus the club still isn't sold, will the owners really commit to £100m+ ?
Chelsea must be on the brink of what they can spend to stay within FFP.
Madrid could do it but the Spanish league isn't what it used to be, everyone wants to be in the Premier League at the moment.
Realistically Man City could have a great chance, they have the money + Bellinghams ex team mate Haaland will only say good things. But will the investigation they're under effect what they can do?
Man Utd will have Champions league football, potentially offer the best wages with the new owners coming in, have an exciting European manager and will compete regularly for trophies now.
We really should be pushing for this deal
it's foolish for anyone to question his ability and that he wouldn't be an immediate upgrade to our midfield....that's just foolish
it's the price that makes everyone pause
you could get two damn good players for that price.....any combo of these guys(Ramos, Caicedo, MacAllister, Kudus)
it's the price that makes everyone pause
you could get two damn good players for that price.....any combo of these guys(Ramos, Caicedo, MacAllister, Kudus)
Can't see how he would be interested in Liverpool now.
They have serious issues and I wouldn't be surprised if Klopp walks in the summer. The ownership is unknown; it is has gone quiet since they stated their intentions to sell. Too much is unknown with that club.
I think we have most likely leapfrogged them, but I still think he will end up at Real Madrid.
They have serious issues and I wouldn't be surprised if Klopp walks in the summer. The ownership is unknown; it is has gone quiet since they stated their intentions to sell. Too much is unknown with that club.
I think we have most likely leapfrogged them, but I still think he will end up at Real Madrid.
I'm sure ETH would like a player of his qualities but I really don't see him going balls to the wall for the amount it'd require to extract him from Dortmund and fend off competition. It's a budget destroyer. We'd have to be taken over and given vast sums pretty quickly.
Everything can change.
Klopp could turn it around, there is still almost half a season to play.
Jude is a massive Liverpool fan, he would go there regardless of CL and what does it matter about the owners? If they spend 100m on him and Klopp is still there, he would pick them over us any day of the week.
I don’t remember all this talk about him being a massive Liverpool fan back when we were first linked to him? When did this all come out, or am I totally blanking on it and it was a big story back then too.
I think it's more about him getting on really well with Trent and Henderson when away with England. I think the link is quite tenuous and United fans could use the Sancho link in a similar way or Chelsea fans with Reece James as I recall him saying he's really good mates with him.
Liverpool signings have been poor for a whilst. If they get bellingham then that would tell me a lot.
If Qatar complete a takeover of Utd, I can guarantee Bellingham will be a Utd player in the summer. Quote me on it.
I'd say City is the most likely destination
Never ever worth that or anything near it and even with new owners - never want to be that club who pays it.
Feck no.
Its a shame we didn't get Enzo Fernandes in the summer
He will go to Real Madrid. We and Liverpool don't have that kind of money and both teams have other holes to fill. City are in hot water with the Premier League. But Real Madrid? They've barely spent the last couple of years. They have both the money and the name.
They do but they don't have the need for him.
They would be absolutely dumb to spend 150mil for him when they have other positions that need addressed.
Really hope we don’t pay that.. Qatar money or no.
150m represents a good long term investment given his age and potential, however, regardless of who the new owners might be, keeping Sabitzer and going all in for Osimhen makes more sense.
I can see it. Signing the English poster boy, stopping him from going abroad, would probably be good value from a sports washing point of view.
We should stay away. No need for another Galactico approach, let's leave that to Madrid and PSG.
I thought he was a blues fan, Bham City?
doesn’t have the composure to be part of the kind of midfield performance Camavinga was putting on the other day, he suits Liverpool ball
Do Madrid need him? Tchauemani (Spelling), Camavinga and Valverde is a really good midfield already. Do they need a 150 million midfielder who we aren't even sure of how good he actually is?
That's not to say that I think we need him at that price either.
That's not to say that I think we need him at that price either.
That's why I don't think he ends up at Madrid.
I don't think long term any of the 3 you posted would be happy not starting, and at 150m it'd be hard to justify not playing Bellingham.
I think he ends up at City as a long term replacement for KdB & Gundogan.
Ironically at this time I think he would probably really be the best fit for Liverpool. That sort of super physical, all action, runs around a lot, type of midfielder is what Klopp's best team was built around. He doesn't really strike me as a Pep player. Far more of a Klopp player. Hopefully they don't get him.
I just cant see Liverpool putting 150m down for him when they need 5 or 6 players in their rebuild. But if theyve done the groundwork they might as well go for it. If Jude wants to miss out on CL until he leaves again then let him go.
He's a Birmingham fan.
Also, I think people underestimate the combined impact of money and a non-dysfunctional setup. United have been gazumped previously due to the former under SAF - mainly by Chelsea and Romanbucks - and then as a result of the latter (through combination of executive and 'footballing' incoherence or inefficiency) post SAF. In light of a takeover and ETH in place, the power Klopp's previous achievements held aren't just fading as active counter-currency but his very longevity (and the more general tendency, which he exhibited at Dortmund, for managers to lose their efficacy at a club after a certain period) has to count against them. Madrid essentially have their longterm midfield 3 in place and aren't going to pay 120+ for a first-reserve.
United also have a track record of concrete interest in him, and the negative factors that were at play at the time (lack of coaching pedigree from OGS; tarnished brand and recent reputation for exec mismanagement. JBs own uncertainty about starting given expecttaions of the club, even in their then precarious relationship to challenging for top4/trophies, and his age) have more or less dissipated.
It would still help to have confirmation of Glazers out ASAP and time to work on the deal (which, whoever buys him, probably won't be completed before early Summer, if this year)
Also, I think people underestimate the combined impact of money and a non-dysfunctional setup. United have been gazumped previously due to the former under SAF - mainly by Chelsea and Romanbucks - and then as a result of the latter (through combination of executive and 'footballing' incoherence or inefficiency) post SAF. In light of a takeover and ETH in place, the power Klopp's previous achievements held aren't just fading as active counter-currency but his very longevity (and the more general tendency, which he exhibited at Dortmund, for managers to lose their efficacy at a club after a certain period) has to count against them. Madrid essentially have their longterm midfield 3 in place and aren't going to pay 120+ for a first-reserve.
United also have a track record of concrete interest in him, and the negative factors that were at play at the time (lack of coaching pedigree from OGS; tarnished brand and recent reputation for exec mismanagement. JBs own uncertainty about starting given expecttaions of the club, even in their then precarious relationship to challenging for top4/trophies, and his age) have more or less dissipated.
It would still help to have confirmation of Glazers out ASAP and time to work on the deal (which, whoever buys him, probably won't be completed before early Summer, if this year)
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