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2015-16 Performances

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5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
54
Goals
11
Assists
11
Yellow cards
7
Red cards
1
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Looking forward to his next goal or assist for all the backflips. Stay strong Juan. Hugs.
 
Worst performance I can remember from him today. Not sure what the problem was because you'd think having two quick forwards ahead of him would be ideal.
 
I'd love to get Isco or a proper right winger in for him after this season.
 
Eugenius said:
This is exactly how he plays in most of our games, tbf, except he didn't get a goal / assist to hide it.
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Precisely. Be prepared for all the sarcastic 'I told you so' posts when he does score or assist in a week or two, though.
 
sullydnl said:
Yeah, not the sort of player you'd expect to do much in seven minutes, especially given the way we were playing by that stage.
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If LvG planned on bringing him on I'd have reversed his and Fellaini's substitutions. to me Fellaini is exactly the player you throw on when it's time for last ditch attempts tossing balls into the box, Mata needs to play his way into the match.
 
Devil may care said:
If LvG planned on bringing him on I'd have reversed his and Fellaini's substitutions. to me Fellaini is exactly the player you throw on when it's time for last ditch attempts tossing balls into the box, Mata needs to play his way into the match.
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Aye, I was thinking the same, though after the game LVG complained that the cms had been lying too deep and not supporting the attack so I guess he thought Fellaini would address that problem.
 
The team had basically given up about 10 minutes before Mata even came on, we were practically running the clock down when he was introduced, pointless substitution, should have been half an hour sooner.
 
sullydnl said:
Aye, I was thinking the same, though after the game LVG complained that the cms had been lying too deep and not supporting the attack so I guess he thought Fellaini would address that problem.
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To me though it's his job to get the word on to his players to change what they are doing rather than make a sub. I mean Schweini and Schneiderlin surely weren't just ignoring what they were told and staying deep.
 
Need him on the ball as much as possible. He will create chances, simple.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Need him on the ball as much as possible. He will create chances, simple.
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Really he's a bigger problem than Rooney for me in this right hand side of attack. Usual Mata disclaimer # he's got great ability in and around the box and a talented player # but out on the right he's beyond dreadful.
 
Lawman said:
Really he's a bigger problem than Rooney for me in this right hand side of attack. Usual Mata disclaimer # he's got great ability in and around the box and a talented player # but out on the right he's beyond dreadful.
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Beyond dreadful is just wrong and a good example of the modern day reactions to performances. Yes, he isn't what he can be out there, far better suited to a central role but he has put in good productive performances out there. I don't see how he can be labelled dreadful just because he hasn't been what he can be. Especially when that is down to the managers selection and not him personally.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Beyond dreadful is just wrong and a good example of the modern day reactions to performances. Yes, he isn't what he can be out there, far better suited to a central role but he has put in good productive performances out there. I don't see how he can be labelled dreadful just because he hasn't been what he can be. Especially when that is down to the managers selection and not him personally.
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Eric I have been steady in my approach to Mata even when he went through a purple patch.
He's wasted massively out on the right and hampers our attack when we try and build up. We have no attacking thrust from the right side due to him. When the ball is in and around the box and falls to him then his quality excels.
I like Mata but in this position he is worse than dreadful in my opinion. Why your saying the modern day reaction is beyond me as I'd have had the same opinion twenty years ago. The same reaction actually I had with Fletcher 10 years ago playing right wing a complete waste of time. And Fletch was quality for us at centre mid.
 
Lawman said:
Eric I have been steady in my approach to Mata even when he went through a purple patch.
He's wasted massively out on the right and hampers our attack when we try and build up. We have no attacking thrust from the right side due to him. When the ball is in and around the box and falls to him then his quality excels.
I like Mata but in this position he is worse than dreadful in my opinion. Why your saying the modern day reaction is beyond me as I'd have had the same opinion twenty years ago. The same reaction actually I had with Fletcher 10 years ago playing right wing a complete waste of time. And Fletch was quality for us at centre mid.
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The term dreadful though, that's my issue. No doubting he is wasted on occasions out wide but he hasn't been dreadful. He is our most productive player. There is no way that a player who has been involved in as many goals as he has been from his position since he has been at the club can be described as dreadful.

He has been misused, sometimes ineffective but not dreadful. Dreadful is someone who loses the ball every time, misplaces every pass, misses every shot, always out of position etc. Those things do not describe Mata.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
The term dreadful though, that's my issue. No doubting he is wasted on occasions out wide but he hasn't been dreadful. He is our most productive player. There is no way that a player who has been involved in as many goals as he has been from his position since he has been at the club can be described as dreadful.

He has been misused, sometimes ineffective but not dreadful. Dreadful is someone who loses the ball every time, misplaces every pass, misses every shot, always out of position etc. Those things do not describe Mata.
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Nope but someone who stops every attack up the wing or someone who cuts back and kills the momentum allowing teams to get behind the ball is frustrating to watch. He for me is the elephant in the room, not Rooney.
 
Leicester 1:1 Man Utd
Non existent in his preferred number 10 role.
 
Games bypassing him at the moment. Still, none of our attackers have done anything remotely impressive.
 
Average position they show at half time shows our beloved Wayne is playing deeper and more central than him for some reason.
 
I almost forgot he was on the pitch. Amazing how we have spent so much but still have as big of a clear out required as before...
 
One of his defenders to come along and say 'It's not his fault nobody is making runs' in 3... 2... 1...
 
It doesn't matter if he's been bad. He will be moved to the right, and after a few poor performances people will be moaning about van Gaal not playing him in number 10 ("his best") position. He will play shit in there and will be moved back to the wing.
Rinse and repeat.
 
Always useless in this formation, surely one of him or Rooney have to come off if we have any chance of getting something from this game, martial is basically a one man attack at the moment.
 
His lack of pace and ability to win a physhical battle really kills things going forward.
 
I don't think he and Rooney can play together in this team. Both players want too many touches and are incapable of beating a man.
 
At least he actually had some semblance of being able to do what he wanted to with the ball this half. Should be giving us more, but he's definitely been the least bad of the forward players.
 
Borys said:
It doesn't matter if he's been bad. He will be moved to the right, and after a few poor performances people will be moaning about van Gaal not playing him in number 10 ("his best") position. He will play shit in there and will be moved back to the wing.
Rinse and repeat.
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This. Mata hasn't ever done well at #10 for us.
 
I'm a little bit confused with regards to where he and Rooney are playing. Are they stepping on each other's shoes?

When he's got on the ball, he's done decently, I think.
 
NinjaZombie said:
I'm a little bit confused with regards to where he and Rooney are playing. Are they stepping on each other's shoes?

When he's got on the ball, he's done decently, I think.
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Maybe, but he's been involved sparingly. Needs to have a bigger influence
 
He is penalty area player, whenever he receives the ball deeper or out wide his lack of tempo is a total hindrance to him creating anything, he is at his best when he gets the ball in or around the penalty area where he can make something happen with only one or two touches.
 
NinjaZombie said:
I'm a little bit confused with regards to where he and Rooney are playing. Are they stepping on each other's shoes?

When he's got on the ball, he's done decently, I think.
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They are both second strikers IMO so it's not really surprising. Should not be playing together.
 
Pointless player has touches of brilliance but for 85 mins of the game an utter passenger. The quicker we get a replacement for him the better.
 
I'm usually the first to defend him, but he was utterly anonymous today. Assumed he'd been taken off in the later stages, before then recalling that it was Rooney who we took off for Depay.

He does have spells like this occasionally. Hopefully he'll get back to his scoring/assisting ways soon enough, because he's not been offering a lot in recent weeks.
 
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