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2015-16 Performances


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5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
54
Goals
11
Assists
11
Yellow cards
7
Red cards
1
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Juan Mata in the league for Chelsea: 82 games, 18 goals, 27 assists.
Juan Mata in the league for Man Utd: 60 games, 19 goals, 11 assists

Most Premier League goals + assists by midfielders since 2011/12:
Juan Mata (75)
David Silva (75)
Yaya Toure (70)
Eden Hazard (66)
 
I kind of get the argument mentioned earlier that he got more assists for Chelsea because they were a particularly dangerous team from set pieces.

Why is he scoring more for us though? We're a team that struggles offensively, we've been pretty terrible for most of the time he's been here and he's spend a large part of his time here out wide rather than playing centrally. So how come he scores more for us?
 
I kind of get the argument mentioned earlier that he got more assists for Chelsea because they were a particularly dangerous team from set pieces.

Why is he scoring more for us though? We're a team that struggles offensively, we've been pretty terrible for most of the time he's been here and he's spend a large part of his time here out wide rather than playing centrally. So how come he scores more for us?
He wasn't on penalty duty at Chelsea, and I think he scored something like 3 penalties for us. Plus Chelsea had a lot more attacking outlets in their team, so they didn't rely so heavily on Mata.
 
I really like Mata, and I want him in the team, but he makes our right hand side so redundant. There's just no threat coming from there atm. We need a proper winger on the right, someone with genuine pace and skill.
 
I really like Mata, and I want him in the team, but he makes our right hand side so redundant. There's just no threat coming from there atm. We need a proper winger on the right, someone with genuine pace and skill.

We definitely need a player with quickness and two wingers willing to stretch the defense, hug the line and run diagonals behind the defense.
 
He has such intelligent movement, if only we could get 1 more pacey winger, or get an in form memphis with lingard on the right we would be absolutely fine. I like when Mata roams around and get's involved with the wings, I think even if he plays as a 10 he shouldnt stay so central and just move around the pitch adding extra numbers to help overload areas of the pitch.
 
I kind of get the argument mentioned earlier that he got more assists for Chelsea because they were a particularly dangerous team from set pieces.

Why is he scoring more for us though? We're a team that struggles offensively, we've been pretty terrible for most of the time he's been here and he's spend a large part of his time here out wide rather than playing centrally. So how come he scores more for us?

Because he's actually quite a good player, who gets into good positions and creates a lot of chances for himself and others. I know the Caf might occasionally seem to imply we're an awful team of shit brained average cock-wits who are criminally stealing a living from the ghost of Quinton Fortune, but by sheer random luck, we do genuinely have some quite decent players.
 
He's a great player to have, but I still feel, he, along with Rooney will be the biggest casualties when we reinforce again. We need guile & pace on that right wing, and he doesn't provide that [not his fault obviously] & there's no place for a true number 10 under Van Gaal. If we get someone like Griezmann, then that's it. He's doing well, very intelligent player.
 
I really like Mata, and I want him in the team, but he makes our right hand side so redundant. There's just no threat coming from there atm. We need a proper winger on the right, someone with genuine pace and skill.

Agreed.
 
I really like Mata, and I want him in the team, but he makes our right hand side so redundant. There's just no threat coming from there atm. We need a proper winger on the right, someone with genuine pace and skill.
As biased as I am in regards to Mata, I do agree but you then have to ask yourself, how much more productive would a pacey skilful winger be. Yes, it would make us more direct and attacking but as predictable as Mata can be out there, time and time again he is directly impacting games.
 
Another OK performance but he is so vital to our game. He is one of those players which puts in tidy performances game after game and the fans continue moaning and the moment he does not play a game, we all start missing him.
 
As biased as I am in regards to Mata, I do agree but you then have to ask yourself, how much more productive would a pacey skilful winger be. Yes, it would make us more direct and attacking but as predictable as Mata can be out there, time and time again he is directly impacting games.
I don't think it's that clear cut as just saying if we had a winger on the right he wouldn't score/create as much as Mata did so having Mata is ok. The issue with Mata should be read in the context of our team - we do not have a great attacking right back to give us an effective threat, our left wing is not pulling up trees either and neither is Mata a Ronaldinho type of playmaker that has game changing individual moments. In short I think we need a more balanced attack to make up for our lack of quality in attack so for us to achieve that balance we need to have both wings firing so that teams do not have the luxury of putting three defenders on the only difference maker we have in the side. I genuinely believe that Mata should fight for a spor on the team against Rooney with Young going to the left and Lingard on the right. It's only when we have the threat of pace allround that either player is at their best due to the space they would be afforded in the centre when teams are stretched.
 
Another OK performance but he is so vital to our game. He is one of those players which puts in tidy performances game after game and the fans continue moaning and the moment he does not play a game, we all start missing him.

Do the fans really moan about Mata though? I know a few here do but most fans (and certainly the one that attend the games) seem to have absolutely no problem with him. In fact I'd guess most fans think he's pretty excellent.
 
Do the fans really moan about Mata though? I know a few here do but most fans (and certainly the one that attend the games) seem to have absolutely no problem with him. In fact I'd guess most fans think he's pretty excellent.

I hope you are correct too. I really think he is vital for our play.
 
I don't think it's that clear cut as just saying if we had a winger on the right he wouldn't score/create as much as Mata did so having Mata is ok. The issue with Mata should be read in the context of our team - we do not have a great attacking right back to give us an effective threat, our left wing is not pulling up trees either and neither is Mata a Ronaldinho type of playmaker that has game changing individual moments. In short I think we need a more balanced attack to make up for our lack of quality in attack so for us to achieve that balance we need to have both wings firing so that teams do not have the luxury of putting three defenders on the only difference maker we have in the side. I genuinely believe that Mata should fight for a spor on the team against Rooney with Young going to the left and Lingard on the right. It's only when we have the threat of pace allround that either player is at their best due to the space they would be afforded in the centre when teams are stretched.

What do you mean by "game changing individual moments"? Surely goals and assists are as game changing as it comes?

You've actually made a pretty good argument for why Mata is indispensable atm. The lack of quality in attack means we can't afford to drop someone as productive as Mata as a more balanced attack with lesser players like Young, Valencia, Lingaard, and out of form Depay simply won't work as well due to the lack of quality you highlighted.

As the stats posted in this thread prove, Mata is a ridiculously productive player, more so than most of the PL players we'd consider superior to him. Lingaard isn't going to come anywhere near that and I seriously doubt the extra balance he brings will suddenly up the overall output of the team that much either.
 
I think most the fans on here are big supporters of Mata and rightly so. This season he has shown that he's not just a luxury player.
 
Playing him on the right wouldn't look so one-dimensional if we had a flying, attacking right back in behind him and a proper, quality winger on the left.
 
It seems like LVG has seen what we have all been crying out for over the past 18 months and that's pace. Unless LVG can see Mata as a number 10 I think his time as a starter for us could be numbered - I think Mata would be great as a 10 with pace either side of him and Martial up top, it would really bring out his qualities and I think he would benefit greatly from having players making runs in behind.

However it seems as though LVG prefers a second striker, Rooney, or a third midfielder, Herrera to play number 10 and it's starting to make me think this could be the last season we see Mata at OT - bold statement I know but I just can't see him fitting in unless we let him play at 10 which I would love to see.

Thoughts Caf?
 
It seems like LVG has seen what we have all been crying out for over the past 18 months and that's pace. Unless LVG can see Mata as a number 10 I think his time as a starter for us could be numbered - I think Mata would be great as a 10 with pace either side of him and Martial up top, it would really bring out his qualities and I think he would benefit greatly from having players making runs in behind.

However it seems as though LVG prefers a second striker, Rooney, or a third midfielder, Herrera to play number 10 and it's starting to make me think this could be the last season we see Mata at OT - bold statement I know but I just can't see him fitting in unless we let him play at 10 which I would love to see.

Thoughts Caf?

People have been saying this for what feels like the best part of a year or so now... yet Mata will constantly find a way back into the team, because of how productive he is.
 
I think LVG likes him a lot, and he should - Mata has been super productive. I would love to see us move him into the #10 position once we sort out the pace on our wings.


Depay/Lingard-----Martial-----Pacy Winger
---------------------Mata---------------------
-------Schneiderlin-----Schweinsteigger----

Obviously this would mean dropping Rooney, which won't happen.
 
Hopefully he steps up like he did in September now with martial and Rooney both out, he'll be the main man out there.
 
However it seems as though LVG prefers a second striker, Rooney, or a third midfielder, Herrera to play number 10 and it's starting to make me think this could be the last season we see Mata at OT - bold statement I know but I just can't see him fitting in unless we let him play at 10 which I would love to see

Mata creates/scores more goals than any other player in our team.
While he keeps delivering, LVG will keep playing him.
Di Maria was the only other guy in our team last year, who could compete, but LVG sold him because he wanted to leave.
So, I think Mata will be sold, but only if he, himself, suggests it.
 
Answered my question in the FullTimeDevils video. Best 20 seconds of my week. Hugs.

On the game, like every week I hope to see him behind the striker but there is a better chance of it happening against Watford now. In saying that, I also hope Herrera plays so that will most likely force him back out wide.
 
Answered my question in the FullTimeDevils video. Best 20 seconds of my week. Hugs.

On the game, like every week I hope to see him behind the striker but there is a better chance of it happening against Watford now. In saying that, I also hope Herrera plays so that will most likely force him back out wide.
Think it might be worth giving Mata a run in the middle and play Lingard wide right, still have Young or Memphis or Perreira to play wide left.
 
Think it might be worth giving Mata a run in the middle and play Lingard wide right, still have Young or Memphis or Perreira to play wide left.
With PSV being such a crucial game, I think Schneiderlin and Bastian will 100% start that, so I'm hoping it's one of them with Herrera today allowing Mata to play in there. If they both play though, it will be Herrera at 10 though.
 
Watford 1:2 Man Utd
Really not showing much when playing his favoured position. Very sketchy half, his passing has been off the mark. Despite what people say, I feel like we are getting more out of him from the right.
 
I'm a fan but he needs to fecking step it up. He's better than this. He and Bastian have been bad.
 
He is making mistakes with final pass, but he is obviously more involved in the build up when playing centrally and is playing more directly than when he is wide. If he could click with his delivery when playing centrally than he could definitely play there all the time.

People like to write him off after he's played one half in central position, behind strikers who aren't strikers, really weird.
 
Another disappointing performance. Our most senior attacker on the day but he certainly didn't show much at all.
 
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