which is vastly different from the western way of bullet in head!!
Journalist Grant Wahl has passed away in Qatar
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which is vastly different from the western way of bullet in head!!
they have killed countless arabic journalists and kidnapped others and put them in guantanamo! but they'll shout "whataboutism" to deal with their cognitive dissonance because for some f#cked up reason westerners feel like they're entitled to be morally superior
To me, it's not reasonable to assume foul play with zero evidence pointing in that direction.
In one month I believe.
That's why I wasn't surprised by migrant workers death toll in Qatar.
You’d be a shite juror
You’re right bro.
A dead American journalist, very bad!
Financing civil conflicts, coup d’etats, military juntas, supporting dictators like Pinochet in Chile or deposing them for not paying tax like Noriega in Panama (and killing many), arming Contras in Salvador and using Cuba for years as a garbage lot… just to name a few… that’s OK!
Hey, I don’t have anything against the USA, but to think their government is to be trusted…
You’re rambling on a subject that only you are talking about.You’re right bro.
A dead American journalist, very bad!
Financing civil conflicts, coup d’etats, military juntas, supporting dictators like Pinochet in Chile or deposing them for not paying tax like Noriega in Panama (and killing many), arming Contras in Salvador and using Cuba for years as a garbage lot… just to name a few… that’s OK!
Hey, I don’t have anything against the USA, but to think their government is to be trusted…
You declared a not particularly suspicious death as a murder, with zero evidence, and have now gone on a tirade about the US for some reason?
Im not rambling, I’m laughing at the irony. Sorry that upsets you.
About your second paragraph, “I don’t have proofs but neither doubts” meant to be ironic also. Which means: “I don’t think he was murdered but bcs he is Murican’ we will think it was”
Yeah, let’s start spewing hateful, anti West bile in a thread about an empathetic man who just passed away.
Cmon, FFS, have a word with yourself.
I don't think Qatar officials would be that stupid then again I also won't be surprised if someone did kill him and they're covering it up.
Healthy people can die, my cousin was 21 he used to swim regular, no smoking/drugs and he went to the gym and collapsed. It does happen.
Healthy people can die, my cousin was 21 he used to swim regular, no smoking/drugs and he went to the gym and collapsed. It does happen.
Think of it as a world balance. Without the western morality, we'd all be under Sharia law right now. You wouldn't want that, wouild you
Why would I get upset? I can’t stand the US government. feck, I can’t even stand my own government.
I suspect there’s been some confusion with the language barrier though so I’m going to back out, your original post didn’t come across as you intended it to (to me at least) hence the confusion.
Why could it only be Qatar officials behind it? It's a country not a building. Also has maybe up to a million fans out there.
If there's nothing untoward there will be no issue with an independent post mortem and with checking through his phone etc. If those things can't happen then it probably signals to something else.
If there's nothing untoward there will be no issue with an independent post mortem and with checking through his phone etc. If those things can't happen then it probably signals to something else.
RIP, what a terrible tragedy
but the Qatar authorities are not taking out US journalists, obviously
but the Qatar authorities are not taking out US journalists, obviously
And here I was thinking I was on RedCafe, for a moment I thought I'd gotten Fox News with all these conspiracy theories!
They really wouldn't given the huge American military base there, there's enough firepower there to make the whole country q heap of sand, not just part of it
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You’re right bro.
A dead American journalist, very bad!
Financing civil conflicts, coup d’etats, military juntas, supporting dictators like Pinochet in Chile or deposing them for not paying tax like Noriega in Panama (and killing many), arming Contras in Salvador and using Cuba for years as a garbage lot… just to name a few… that’s OK!
Hey, I don’t have anything against the USA, but to think their government is to be trusted…
What does this have to do with trusting the US government?
What a strange old ramble. Who cares if you trust the US government.You’re right bro.
A dead American journalist, very bad!
Financing civil conflicts, coup d’etats, military juntas, supporting dictators like Pinochet in Chile or deposing them for not paying tax like Noriega in Panama (and killing many), arming Contras in Salvador and using Cuba for years as a garbage lot… just to name a few… that’s OK!
Hey, I don’t have anything against the USA, but to think their government is to be trusted…
Obviously different. As you get the head and the bullet back with the body. Besides they also have the method of invading tye offending persons country claiming hidden WMD’s.
Yeah, some folks on this thread. This Qatar WC has brought up a lot of subconscious racism to the forefront.
Very true
Sad news, obviously - he seemed like a decent chap.
As for he conspiracy thing - nah.
If it was his heart, this happens all too often: otherwise healthy person being genetically predisposed, etc.
A co-worker of mine died a few years ago of a heart attack. Early 40s. He wasn't overweight, had no issues with smoking or alcohol, was - in fact - extremely fit compared to yer average person his age...and so forth. But after the fact they discovered a family history - something that he, himself, had never been aware of.
He had never been on the radar, because there just wasn't any reason for it - but...there you go.
As for he conspiracy thing - nah.
If it was his heart, this happens all too often: otherwise healthy person being genetically predisposed, etc.
A co-worker of mine died a few years ago of a heart attack. Early 40s. He wasn't overweight, had no issues with smoking or alcohol, was - in fact - extremely fit compared to yer average person his age...and so forth. But after the fact they discovered a family history - something that he, himself, had never been aware of.
He had never been on the radar, because there just wasn't any reason for it - but...there you go.
Agreed - sometimes people get themselves so wrapped up in an agenda they struggle to separate fact from fiction.
Grant was an independent journalist after being fired by Sports Illustrated for publicly criticizing the CEO for gutting employee salaries during the pandemic and left Fox because of their whitewashing of the Qatar World Cup.
Just got home and turned the game on. Did Fox cover his death at all today?
I saw a few seconds this morning when I first switched over to Fox and they were wrapping up a segment on him, dunno what was said or how long the segment lasted by the main analyst was very emotional in his closing words.
Well, Qatar will be transparent and helpful about an autopsy if they have clean hands. It’s that simple.
Yep. What I heard on XM Radio had Rob Stone almost unable to finish his monologue.
I had no doubt that the crew would be emotional and want to eulogize him, it was more if Fox would let them.
Was listening to TalkSport early this AM & an English journo was discussing how difficult it was to try to concentrate on the match while emergency services were performing CPR on Wahl who was sat a mere thirty feet away. He was quite emotional too.
It does happen all the time. But when it does the remaining family members deserve an explanation (i.e autopsy) they can trust, in my opinion it helps with coming to accept it knowing what actually happened (as in what illnes killed him).
Given how Qatari officials have behaved around the other death recently (part of life, berating the reporter for simply asking about it) I have doubts they take it very serious.
Thanks for that - I saw report on online when I was hurriedly looking at some news that implied Grant was tenporarily detained so a scuffle was possible if that was the case. I understand his brother saying what he did in his grief, people aren`t thinking too well when a loved one passes especially suddenly.
When I was quickly looking at some news online there was a new item that implied Grant had been temporarily detained by the authorities - I now know he wasn`t. Blows to the head occur in scuffles in countries all around the world including with authorities. I remember a few years ago seeing one of a man in the UK who fell to the ground and hit his head after a scuffle with police although the police didn`t deliberately shove him down.
Really sad news. RIP Grant.
The circus and conspiracy theories around this are an unfortunate distraction from paying tribute and respects to the man and his grieving wife. Real shame that some of that stems from his brother, who seems to have made this about himself in calling foul play when there was plenty to suggest that like many an American , a very likely heart related fatality is tragic but no longer much of a surprise.
The circus and conspiracy theories around this are an unfortunate distraction from paying tribute and respects to the man and his grieving wife. Real shame that some of that stems from his brother, who seems to have made this about himself in calling foul play when there was plenty to suggest that like many an American , a very likely heart related fatality is tragic but no longer much of a surprise.
It's sad but also predicable how so many wanted this to be a result of some sort of foul play.
RIP very unfortunate to see soemone pass away so young.
So why the hell did he open his mouth to suggest something so inflammatory in the first place with zero evidence? Absolutely ridiculous.
If it turns out he died of an MI this could be pretty damning. Acute onset of chest pressure/discomfort in a stressed out man in his late 40s would make you want to exclude a cardiac cause. I wonder if he even got an ECG?
It's commendable that he posted this. Hopefully they will find some peace, it must be awful to experience the relatively sudden death of a relative while they are supposed to be momentarily away.
Maybe he was stressed out about something and not thinking straight? Something like a close family member dying suddenly.