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Josko Gvardiol
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Messi took off 20 million euros of the price last night
I bet on certain players to get booked in games and was thinking that tactical fouling has been happening a lot less in this World Cup. I’ve watched Messi being allowed to run at teams constantly
it’s not surprising to me that one of the best at tactical fouling are in the final
Agreed. United don't do it enough as a team either.
He let messi go from more or.less the half way line. Its inexcusable tbh. I'd be fuming as a coach that my cb hasn't just grabbed his shirt and took a yellow
It's not great defending overall, but forcing Messi to the byline although Messi already had a head start isn't that bad defending in my opinion. Lovren looked nowhere near to actually help out and then stands in no man's land while Messi's best passing option Alvarez stands there completely unmarked by anyone else.
I think Gvardiol's defending looks worse by the fact that Croatia lost defensive shape entirely. No one picked up on Alvarez' run which in my opinion is the real error.
Messi is left footed and he was on the right side of the pitch.....any coach with half a brain would have been encouraging him to push Messi to his right. Gvardiol defending him exactly like he would have been taught
We actually do this season
Wasn't this bloke a CB? Looks a natural out wide.
He only got shoehorned at left back cause Pep didn't trust him at CB. Now he's probably our best left winger over Grealish and Doku.
Total footballer
Great player. Only going to get better too.
Best part about that; he IS best on CB , but he played LB in Dinamo often. Then on last Euro Dalic played him all 4 games on LB.
And now........great Pep invented that.
Tesla/Edison situation. One invents, other gets credits.
When I saw the bump, I was hoping it was because he was the latest City player rumored to be leaving.
I couldn't believe he tried to back heel Amad's finish away. 
Overrated defender.
He's gotten so lazy on the back of a few goals. Zero effort out of possession. Wonderful on the ball but needs a proper kick in the arse when we don't have it.
Ake is miles better
He is the opposite of the "no-nonsense" defender. He has frills - pace and some goals but "full of nonsense" otherwise.
I swear his cost them in two consecutive games. I liked watching him at LB but I see why Pep played him there now. Weird player.
He’s what happens when you turn an inside forward into a fullback. He has no business being back there doing stupid shit.
“This will look great on the replay!”I couldn't believe he tried to back heel Amad's finish away.
The emblem of city's cheating. The world's most expensive defender, but at city he's just another player in the pack.
Ok he's scored a few goals this season, some crackers, but defensively he's made appalling errors. His attempt to stop Amad's shot was pathetic! Not complaining though!
I couldn't give a shit about one of my defenders putting it in the top corner every now and again if he's committing defensive howlers at the other end!
I couldn't give a shit about one of my defenders putting it in the top corner every now and again if he's committing defensive howlers at the other end!
Love him for Croatia but hate him for City. He's no worse than the others though. Whole team is in a crisis. Beatutiful thing to watch really.
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He's going to be amazing eventually, but has had a rough time lately like pretty much everyone else on that team.
If the best case scenario happens and they get relegated we shouldn't be looking to snatch a few of their players.
Rodri would be top of the list but he'll be Madrid bound, gvardiol should be next.
Rodri would be top of the list but he'll be Madrid bound, gvardiol should be next.
I can't agree that we should try to buy a 29 year old Rodri coming off of a season long ACL injury.
Gvardiol should be a player we try to buy, though, I completely agree. Him and Haaland would be the top two most sought after players if City do get a big punishment.
I signaled out rodri because I sincerely belive he's the very best midfielder of his current generation, there are certain risks involved getting a player of such an age profile and after such an injury but his sheer quality trumps such concerns if we were able to get him.
That's long shot anyway.
But overall I'd agree rodri, Haaland, gvardiol should spark the most heated transfer competition among all their assets.
I think Rodri has become a bit overrated, simply because people view him as this lone #6 who's carrying City on his back both defensively and in possession, whilst in reality his stock has only skyrocketed in the last 24 months, since Pep started using him as almost an #8 in a double pivot, with a lot of protection from Stones or another CB/full-back stepping into midfield constantly to help him out with a lot of defensive responsibility.
However, he could still play the deeper role in a double pivot to an exceptional level at any club in the world, but he doesn't take as much defensive responsibility as it's being made out.
But he would be a great partner for both Mainoo and Ugarte in Amorim's system, as he has both of the crucial things that the Mainoo-Ugarte partnership lacks IMO. Physicality and passing range. Could get his extra protection from one of our CBs as well that he's used to at City.
However, in the hypothetical event of City selling all their players as a result of a multi-year expulsion from the Premier League as their punishment, I think Rodri would be picked up for a much cheaper price than one would think, and he wouldn't really want to stay in England anyways. I don't see him going anywhere other than the Spanish big three (Yes, I can imagine him in Barca and Atletico too, not just RM).
Gvardiol and Haaland however are both legitimately 100m+ talents in their pre-peak years, so the interest and potential price would be crazy there.
Not with how they treated him this year
There's another pretty good team in Madrid that Rodri is familiar with.Not with how they treated him this year
Wouldn't call him an outright left wingback (he's more defender) but is there a better player in his position right now? Not his problem he's playing in a rubbish City team. On a 5 year contract could well be stuck there.
Seems to be the type of defender that can play equally well across the backline in various roles, great player to have in this respect.