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2024-25 Performances

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4.6 Season Average Rating
Appearances
28
Goals
4
Assists
2
Yellow cards
1
Nice to give him a good reception but I just can't get my head round this guy.

Go and watch injury time again and see how many times Amad was sprinting to close down the Liverpool defender then when it was Zirkzee's turn he barely jogs, no intensity at all. How can he ever expect to be a success if he can't just put some basic effort in after being on the pitch 10 mins.
 
Harry190 said:
No it isn't. Not at this level. He has an advantage over every defending player for half a second. That's enough at this level.
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He also has a goalkeeper to beat from a much tighter angle. His decision was correct, the problem was the execution.
 
Rockets Redglare said:
There was nothing wrong with it. Maybe it wasn’t straight across the floor but Maguire should be putting that away 99 times out of 100.
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It was clearly a bad pass, you see quire a lot of forward players miss those when the ball is bobbling so not entirely surprising a lumbering centre back did
 
The Serpent said:
Did more than Hojund in 4 minutes and only had 6 starts and people are already have their agenda's saying his pass was poor, even though the pitch conditions were terrible and Maguire messed a sitter. If Zirkee started and put in the performance Hojlund did, everyone would be screaming to get him out of the club. The double standards is deafening
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Isn't that the problem though?

Hojlund starts, is shit, Zirkzee comes on, does well off the bench to get a start where he is shit, Hojlund comes on, does well off the bench to get a start were he is shit and around and around we go.
 
The Mitcher said:
Hopefully that Newcastle game has lit a fire in him. I don't rate him, but equally want him to succeed like I do all our players.
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I know motta at bologna said he needs a rocket to get him playing well, but he's young and I think he can be extremely useful if he plays like that.
 
Screamed for him to just shoot. An injury time winner at Anfield would be such an amazing follow up to being booed off at Old Trafford.
 
I'll start by saying something nice, fair play to him for coming on and actually giving it some after the Newcastle game.

That pass to Maguire though was shocking... Though he was probably offside anyway, but still!
 
Thought it was a decent cameo, also good to see the fans get behind him.
 
Macuire didn't complain about the pass, whether it was low or 20 cm. A player at this level must know how to kick. Not even Zirkzee should think that he's passing it to a central defender, there was a teammate better placed to score and he thought about the team and not himself.
 
He got cheered when he came on today. Nice little gesture from the fans!
 
He did alright when he came on. That's good for him. However, for me at least, I expect a striker who plays for Manchester United to take that shot on themselves at that particular moment of the game. It's all about being brave, confident, and good enough to take on that burden and responsibility. Passing it to another player in space (a centre back, no less) is fine...as long as that pass is sensible and gives them the easy job of just slotting it away.

Trying not to be too harsh, but I 100% expect a striker of ours to go for that themselves. Worry about the offside matter later on, but he has to take that on.
 
Nice that he got a good reception off our fans but the pass to Maguire was really poor , Roy Keane says Harry should have been expecting and have been ready for a poor pass when he saw it was Zirkzee.

But any professional player at any level should have been able to roll that back to Maguire instead of bobbleing it like he did.
 
Bobski said:
Isn't that the problem though?

Hojlund starts, is shit, Zirkzee comes on, does well off the bench to get a start where he is shit, Hojlund comes on, does well off the bench to get a start were he is shit and around and around we go.
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The issue I have is Zirkee has been at the club for 5 minutes and is 2 goals behind Hojlund with more assists and fans are booing him, and calling him all sorts. Hojlund last season went 14 games without scoring or doing anything and there was plenty of sympathy votes and excuses.

This season Hojlund has been even worse and I've never seen the fans boo him or make rumours up on him being sold
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I'll start by saying something nice, fair play to him for coming on and actually giving it some after the Newcastle game.

That pass to Maguire though was shocking... Though he was probably offside anyway, but still!
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Shocking is probably a bit over the top. It wasn’t perfect, it was on the bounce but it was in stride and the correct weight. Maguire’s technique wasn’t the best but he’s a centre back so not really a criticism.

I thought Zirkzee showed some huge resilience and mentality today. Came on in a cauldron and did not hide, the fact he was in the mix and there to try and win it for us after the other day was really impressive.
 
Superunknown said:
He did alright when he came on. That's good for him. However, for me at least, I expect a striker who plays for Manchester United to take that shot on themselves at that particular moment of the game. It's all about being brave, confident, and good enough to take on that burden and responsibility. Passing it to another player in space (a centre back, no less) is fine...as long as that pass is sensible and gives them the easy job of just slotting it away.

Trying not to be too harsh, but I 100% expect a striker of ours to go for that themselves. Worry about the offside matter later on, but he has to take that on.
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Fair enough I guess but I would say that the pass was almost 100% the correct decision, shame about the execution though.
 
JJ12 said:
We going to ignore the angle he was at?

Of course it was the best option to pass.
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Perfectly fine angle for a forward. If Martinez was able to pull a shot from as tight an angle, he should have as well. He is a Man United forward. He should be taking those.
 
Low on confidence or not, no striker worth his shirt should be doing anything other than taking that on themselves. Disappointing decision making and never mind the quality of the pass.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I'll start by saying something nice, fair play to him for coming on and actually giving it some after the Newcastle game.

That pass to Maguire though was shocking... Though he was probably offside anyway, but still!
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Looking at it again I think he’s onside
Brutal pass after though
 
Just because you're a striker doesn't mean you have to shoot on sight. It was a good decision to square it for a tap in. The pass wasn't ideal and the finish wasn't either, maybe leaving it for Garnacho would've worked, but the idea to square was absolutely on
 
Good decision to pass, but it was a bad pass.

Thought he looked alright
 
Betson said:
Nice that he got a good reception off our fans but the pass to Maguire was really poor , Roy Keane says Harry should have been expecting and have been ready for a poor pass when he saw it was Zirkzee.

But any professional player at any level should have been able to roll that back to Maguire instead of bobbleing it like he did.
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He really said that ? That's frankly very poor from him.
 
The Serpent said:
The issue I have is Zirkee has been at the club for 5 minutes and is 2 goals behind Hojlund with more assists and fans are booing him, and calling him all sorts. Hojlund last season went 14 games without scoring or doing anything and there was plenty of sympathy votes and excuses.

This season Hojlund has been even worse and I've never seen the fans boo him or make rumours up on him being sold
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Zirkzee has a very languid style of playing, not dissimilar to Paul Pogba's (and we know how much some fans hated him). Hojlund on the other hand is obvious in how much effort he's putting in.
 
I feel everything was set up for him, match drawn, final moments against Liverpool at Anfield to have a go and get the winner. He just didn't have the confidence or the bottle to take the shot on from there. Even the pass was simple just lay off five yards, he gave a bouncing pass, Maguire should still score, but he should not have made it difficult, that's the difference between average and classy players, they pass it how they expect it to be received.
 
A bit gutless to not take it on but understandable in his low confidence position. I’m afraid he butchered the simple pass across to Maguire though making an unmissable opportunity missable.

We are desperate for a decent goal scoring number 9 in this squad.
 
KirkDuyt said:
Screamed for him to just shoot. An injury time winner at Anfield would be such an amazing follow up to being booed off at Old Trafford.
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Yeah in that situation he made the “right” play but I think any great striker is looking to bury that.

I wanted him to shoot too because if he never develops an instinct for being aggressive in front of net he won’t make it here.
 
The pass probably was the right call, but oh man, if he’d smashed that into the top corner. Couldn’t have scripted it any better.
 
Shark said:
I thought he just said that he's low on confidence, so don't expect the best pass.
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I see, that doesn't sound as harsh. I feel for the lad, really not an ideal situation to be in for your first season in a new league. Hopefully the reception from the away fans will have cheered him up a bit.
 
sourdough satellite said:
Zirkzee has a very languid style of playing, not dissimilar to Paul Pogba's (and we know how much some fans hated him). Hojlund on the other hand is obvious in how much effort he's putting in.
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Effort and passion is compensation is run of the mill, you can find that in the Sunday League. This is the problem I love passion, I'm a passionate fiery individual myself, but it's useless without application and learning the right moments to utilise the Fire.

What did all that passion and effort achieve for Hojlund for 80 minutes? All I saw him was running into blind alleys on the channels passing it back or getting dropped to the floor. Zirkee without having to run himself rugged got himself into dangerous positions within 4 minutes and should have had an assist without that essential ''pashun''
 
Looked good I thought, really smart pass he sprayed out to the left to open up the game when he first came on. Right choice of pass to Maguire.

It's the dead of winter on a pitch that was barely ready for the match that saw Amad (one of the most balanced players in the country) to randomly fall over a few minutes earlier. All this to say, passes can bobble a little.
 
hellhunter said:
Just because you're a striker doesn't mean you have to shoot on sight. It was a good decision to square it for a tap in. The pass wasn't ideal and the finish wasn't either, maybe leaving it for Garnacho would've worked, but the idea to square was absolutely on
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Either decision would have been fine. The execution is where the problem is
 
Funny seeing Roy Keane defend the pass from Zirkzee, saying that in that situation he'd expect a shit pass from him, it's all about knowing your team mates. If he's on the receiving end of that pass, he wouldn't be so nice about it.
 
If the last kick went in we’d all be saying he made the right choice. He probably did, what didn’t help us was that it was Maguire in the shooting position, would have been better if it went a bit passed him to Garnacho.
 
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