Jose Mourinho Sack Watch

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He says he will use them when he has nothing to win. He has admitted we wont get top 4 this season now but still wont play them. He just doesn't want to.
But why? What has he got to lose?
 
But why? What has he got to lose?
Nothing to lose. In fact, it would give him more time. He just isn't at all interested in playing players who don't cost money. Not at all interested.
 
Nothing to lose. In fact, it would give him more time. He just isn't at all interested in playing players who don't cost money. Not at all interested.

Some would argue throwing young players into such a toxic situation would do them more bad than good. You ideally want to introduce kids into a winning team and happy dressing room.
 
Annoys me more then results. Why pay £40 million on a CB when Christensen is doing so well on loan.
It's mental. Him, and quite a few others surely deserve a shot.

Some would argue throwing young players into such a toxic situation would do them more bad than good. You ideally want to introduce kids into a winning team and happy dressing room.
Except it wasn't happening then either.

I don't think the team circumstances mean all that much, young players just need a chance in the end. Right now they've noting to loose, as they aren't winning games anyway.
 
He says he will use them when he has nothing to win. He has admitted we wont get top 4 this season now but still wont play them. He just doesn't want to.
Just goes to prove (if one needed further proof) that Mourinho simply doesn't care for developing young players. He needs a season of complete and utter pointlessness to play them. Glad he's not at United.
 
Nothing to lose. In fact, it would give him more time. He just isn't at all interested in playing players who don't cost money. Not at all interested.
You're really not a fan atm are you? I don't get why though because the younger players would likely show hunger and want to prove themselves.
 
Some would argue throwing young players into such a toxic situation would do them more bad than good. You ideally want to introduce kids into a winning team and happy dressing room.
He's already admitted they won't get CL. The club and Abromovich especially, is desperate for him to use academy players. I have never seen an owner go to so many academy games like Abromovich but Mourinho doesn't seem interested. The fans will even be more patient with the kids on the pitch. He still has credit with the fans, they still chant his name. And to top it off, Chelsea's young players are very good.
 
Some would argue throwing young players into such a toxic situation would do them more bad than good. You ideally want to introduce kids into a winning team and happy dressing room.
Like Earthquake said, he didn't play them when we were winning last season either.
It's mental. Him, and quite a few others surely deserve a shot.


Except it wasn't happening then either.

I don't think the team circumstances mean all that much, young players just need a chance in the end. Right now they've noting to loose, as they aren't winning games anyway.
Him, Ake, Baker and Solanke all deserve a chance amongst the loanees. Loftus-Cheek, Musonda, Traore and Kenedy should be playing games too. He is insulting them by treating them the way he has.
You're really not a fan atm are you? I don't get why though because the younger players would likely show hunger and want to prove themselves.
I don't think he is the right man for longevity. His attitude is toxic, his methods burn quickly and he refuses to do any long term planning. Also, his answer to every problem is to buy a load of players.
 
To be fair he says he doesn't want more players. @Gol123
He also said he would pls Loftus-Cheek for a couple of games, then proceeded to give him 45 minutes and not play him for the next 4 games. The man lies through his teeth.
 
He also said he would pls Loftus-Cheek for a couple of games, then proceeded to give him 45 minutes and not play him for the next 4 games. The man lies through his teeth.
:lol: This one disgruntled fan.
 
[QUOTE="Gol123, post: 18482922, member: 97207")

I don't think he is the right man for longevity. His attitude is toxic, his methods burn quickly and he refuses to do any long term planning. Also, his answer to every problem is to buy a load of players.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't want him at United but you don't think there's a chance he'll work through this slump and stabilize the team again?
And I wonder if Abramovitsj will be more patient this time?
 
As our club has found out, once the confidence has been destroyed it is very difficult to get it back. Think you're going to struggle much like we have under Van Gaal for the next season or two. Good luck.

We ain't exactly struggling under LVG
Moyes was a struggle
 
Like Earthquake said, he didn't play them when we were winning last season either.

Him, Ake, Baker and Solanke all deserve a chance amongst the loanees. Loftus-Cheek, Musonda, Traore and Kenedy should be playing games too. He is insulting them by treating them the way he has.

I don't think he is the right man for longevity. His attitude is toxic, his methods burn quickly and he refuses to do any long term planning. Also, his answer to every problem is to buy a load of players.
None of those players are good enough/a significant upgrade on what you already have.

I fully expect you to rediscover your mojo and go on a barnstorming run for half a season with the current crop of players (plus 2-3 additions in January)
 
None of those players are good enough/a significant upgrade on what you already have.

I fully expect you to rediscover your mojo and go on a barnstorming run for half a season with the current crop of players (plus 2-3 additions in January)
I never said they were. But they are all young talented players with the potential to reach a similar level to the players we have and have also been outperforming their equivalent at Chelsea. I would rather Loftus-Cheek and Baker play then Fabregas of the past 11 months, I would rather Kenedy play as he has been our best player whenever he has played. Rather Christensen who has been Monchengladbachs best defender this season then Cahill or Ivanovic. And Ake has shown a lot more talent then Baba Rahman.

Its been three months of players not performing and there has been no change or progression. At what point do you change? I would personally change it now because the younger guys deserve a shot.
 
Loss to Porto, and he's probably gone.

As much as so many CFC fans wanted Jose to create his own dynasty at Chelsea and stay there for many years, it doesn't look like it's working out. I have tremendous respect for Mourinho as a manager, but I'm convinced that he's not cut out for a long term deal in the same club. He may be the best in the business when it comes to immediate success, but his methods clearly stop working after two-three seasons. He was a success at Porto (1.5 seasons), Chelsea (3 seasons), Inter (2 seasons), Real (3 seasons) and now Chelsea again (currently in his 3rd season), but you can tell that unless he leaves early (Porto, Inter), things start to unravel a bit by third season or so. I don't know if it has to with his training methods that make players 'burn out' faster or his personality, which may win over many players in the beginning but doesn't work so well after a while, but it's obvious that it takes its toll.
 
Always hate the idea that a manager's fate rests on one game. If it gets to that stage then personally I think it is just better to sack them regardless of outcome.
 
Nothing to lose. In fact, it would give him more time. He just isn't at all interested in playing players who don't cost money. Not at all interested.
Is that really true? If he started playing a bunch of youth instead of the regular senior players it would make it perfectly transparent that he's lost the dressing room. The players would probably start leaking unhappiness left and right with nothing left to lose as well. Additionally, if the kids failed (and who could blame them under the circumstances?) he'd be at the end of his tether. I doubt he'd be able to recall the seniors at that point.

It's just like how Rodgers started playing it safe and stopped trying anything new once he started feeling the pressure early this season. If you try new ideas and they fail it just proves you're clueless.
 
Always hate the idea that a manager's fate rests on one game. If it gets to that stage then personally I think it is just better to sack them regardless of outcome.
One game can turn your season around. It's a cup game as well, after that it's 4 opponents to the title. If he wins or gets to the final of CL I'd say he can have a rather good season regardless of what happens in Prem. Although you lot have a history of even winning CL is not enough to keep your job.
 
One game can turn your season around. It's a cup game as well, after that it's 4 opponents to the title. If he wins or gets to the final of CL I'd say he can have a rather good season regardless of what happens in Prem. Although you lot have a history of even winning CL is not enough to keep your job.
No we don't. Di Matteo won the CL and was made permanent manager.
 
Is that 3-4 months?
Well the league starts in the middle of August, so yeah 3-4 months of playing time. If you want to be absolutely punctual from signed to release - 5 months and 2 weeks including preseason and holidays.
 
he has lost more league games this season than villas boas has in 11/12 season up to march (when he was sacked).
 
he has lost more league games this season than villas boas has in 11/12 season up to march (when he was sacked).
Mourinho has much better credentials and is currently champion last year with his team. Probably this is his worst season so far in his career. I think he has the ability to turn it around and the board as well. He's no Moyes.
 
Mourinho has much better credentials and is currently champion last year with his team. Probably this is his worst season so far in his career. I think he has the ability to turn it around and the board as well. He's no Moyes.
think that's what's keeping him at chelsea. if it happened to be moyes he'd be sacked long before it got this bad.

interested to see how this goes, if only to laugh at mourinho's failures. I certainly didn't see this kind of meltdown from the (former) champions, not even us in 13/14 were this bad and that was largely due to appointing a clueless manager.
 
Mourinho has much better credentials and is currently champion last year with his team. Probably this is his worst season so far in his career. I think he has the ability to turn it around and the board as well. He's no Moyes.

Which is a good thing because I don't think he does and will therefore do more damage. All good. Longer they keep him the worse it'll get and the harder it will be to restore the club.
 
and was sacked like 3-4 months afterwards....
Yes. Abramovich never wanted to hire him. Only did because he won the double and was so popular. His sacking and Benitez hiring didn't go down too well.
 
One game can turn your season around. It's a cup game as well, after that it's 4 opponents to the title. If he wins or gets to the final of CL I'd say he can have a rather good season regardless of what happens in Prem. Although you lot have a history of even winning CL is not enough to keep your job.

Whilst that's true I just think if you've decided that the manager is going to be judged entirely on one game then it's time to get rid. That isn't a reflection of my thoughts on mourinho, just the situation in general.
 
speaking of which, where's falcao? thought he was going to resurrect (or something like that) according to some people here.
 
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