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Yeah you can admire the loyalty but I don’t respect a player who throws away the chance of real success and pushing themselves outside of their comfort zone.

I could understand it more if it was a proper big club like United, Liverpool etc. But Spurs? Really?

He’s an arsenal fan for a start.

Is he now?
 
They require a pretty serious rebuild, and losing Kane, Son and Eriksen has obviously not helped matters.

That being said, Liverpool and City are the only clubs to have taken more points than Spurs, since Mourinho's arrival.
 
Is he now?
Yeah for sure. I’ve seen a few pics younger with Arse kits on, I’m sure he’s even admitted it in an interview?

Edit: Yeah google it and you will see him in Arsenal strips and also discussing it in interviews.
He played for Arsenal youth and released at around 10 yrs old.
 
Yeah you can admire the loyalty but I don’t respect a player who throws away the chance of real success and pushing themselves outside of their comfort zone.

I could understand it more if it was a proper big club like United, Liverpool etc. But Spurs? Really?

He’s an arsenal fan for a start.

Doubt he is an Arsenal fan anymore at any levels. That was before he joined Spurs as a kid right. Got rejected by Arsenals youth sides if I remember it fully.
He could still win things with Spurs and England. It is not like he is playing for San Marino and a League 2 side.

I personally admire people that do not just go for the glamour of something new, but value history and your roots. Even though I got a competetive side that always wants to win too. I am sure Kane got that drive too.
 
They require a pretty serious rebuild, and losing Kane, Son and Eriksen has obviously not helped matters.

That being said, Liverpool and City are the only clubs to have taken more points than Spurs, since Mourinho's arrival.
I find this stat hard to believe...
 
I find this stat hard to believe...

They've won loads of games against the bottom half teams home and away but even that's not been too convincing. Beat us last minute, Norwich late on and also West Ham and Bournemouth 3-2 although were 3-0 up in both. Brighton 2-1 on Boxing day was another underwhelming performance but they scored at good times.

Their final five home games are Man. United, West Ham, Everton, Leicester and Arsenal. They only took 5 points from those fixtures last season so think it's going to be a big struggle for them to reach 60 points unless Son comes back quickly.
 
I could understand it more if it was a proper big club like United, Liverpool etc. But Spurs? Really?
Does it really matter how "big" a club are historically? If they're underachieving in the present they're underachieving in the present.

Liverpool's at the time 5 European Cups and 18 League's didn't stop people constantly saying Torres and Gerrard needed to look elsewhere for the sake of their careers and if United don't start challenging again soon I imagine question marks will be raised on whether Rashford/Greenwood should move on if Real/Barca or even whoever's dominating the Prem come calling.
 
Yeah for sure. I’ve seen a few pics younger with Arse kits on, I’m sure he’s even admitted it in an interview?

Edit: Yeah google it and you will see him in Arsenal strips and also discussing it in interviews.
He played for Arsenal youth and released at around 10 yrs old.
You need to do more research
 
Yeah it’s now or never for a big move imo.

Injuries creeping in as well now.

Would be such a waste if he wins nothing at Spurs. Imo he has been good enough to play for any team in world football.

Yep, his injuries are creeping up, he's had ankle issues for the last few seasons.

Parts of last season he was probably the best ST in the world.
 
Ummm ok... do tell?

Multiple photo's of him in an Arsenal kit outweigh any excuses he's used to placate the Tottenham fans.

His entire family are Spurs fans, he is from the local area and it is well documented he has been a life-long Spurs fan. He was picked up by Arsenal as a kid but that doesn't make him an Arsenal fan.
 
Spurs have a massive re-build.

They need 2 full backs £50m
They need 2 Cb;s £70m
They need a CDM £50m
They need a Striker £ 60m

That's north of £200m investment. Will Levy be able to do it?

Will the likes of Son and Kane stay if the football is so boring?

It will be impossible to cover that up. He will stick to 1 RB + 1 CB (Aurier can make both positions if needed)

The CDM is probably the "easier" part. Mourinho needs an energetic and clever guy that can screen in front of the defense or join the back four depending the situation. The market shows that there are a lot of decently good solutions and you don't need a super player in every position.

With Kane as the main striker, can't see the need to buy such an expensive striker for backup.

They probably need another midfielder to provider threat, unless Ali recovers his form.
 
The rebuild that is needed is overplayed here just because of poor results. Obviously they need players but they have good team.
 
It will be impossible to cover that up. He will stick to 1 RB + 1 CB (Aurier can make both positions if needed)

The CDM is probably the "easier" part. Mourinho needs an energetic and clever guy that can screen in front of the defense or join the back four depending the situation. The market shows that there are a lot of decently good solutions and you don't need a super player in every position.

With Kane as the main striker, can't see the need to buy such an expensive striker for backup.

They probably need another midfielder to provider threat, unless Ali recovers his form.

They spent approx £160m this year already in the summer and January with not much incomings.

They will not spend another £150m without selling anyone, that is £300m spend in 18 months.
 
They spent approx £160m this year already in the summer and January with not much incomings.

They will not spend another £150m without selling anyone, that is £300m spend in 18 months.

Their transfer activity was good on paper: hired players who were showing talent and have potential. But it was too many transfers in a window and in the end they are not delivering top material yet, hence one of the reasons they fallen.
 
The rebuild that is needed is overplayed here just because of poor results. Obviously they need players but they have good team.

I think there is no argument that they need an LB, RB, CB, DCM to start. The full backs are extremely sub par and they don’t come cheap anymore. Their options in those positions aren’t good enough.

They need a really solid, dependable CB too. Vertonghan is done and Alderweireld isn’t the same player. Guys like Sanchez and Foyth are not good enough to be starters. They concede two goals basically every game.

They don’t have any option at DMC in the whole squad bar Dier, whose form has dropped off a cliff.

Those are all essential buys.

Few would argue that Kane shouldnt play every game of a normal season, especially if they are in Europe. So another CF is a must, unless you want to move Son out of position and also play him every single game too.

Then you get to the more debatable positions. Lloris isn’t getting any younger and their backup isn’t a good keeper. Dele Alli hasn’t been consistently good for a long time now and has the creativity of peak Eriksen been fully replaced?

So absolutely essential signings...

RB, CB, LB, DMC and backup CF, with GK on the horizon.

And even then, you still might need another few players to really replace Eriksen and Alli.

That is a lot for any club, nevermind a club paying for a brand new stadium.

They didn’t properly invest for years. They should have sold Toby, Eriksen, Dier and Vertonghan gradually and refreshed the squad. They didn’t do that and they let it get stale.

I think they have too much to do and people are overrating the squad they have now, but time will tell.
 
I think there is no argument that they need an LB, RB, CB, DCM to start. The full backs are extremely sub par and they don’t come cheap anymore. Their options in those positions aren’t good enough.

They need a really solid, dependable CB too. Vertonghan is done and Alderweireld isn’t the same player. Guys like Sanchez and Foyth are not good enough to be starters. They concede two goals basically every game.

They don’t have any option at DMC in the whole squad bar Dier, whose form has dropped off a cliff.

Those are all essential buys.

Few would argue that Kane shouldnt play every game of a normal season, especially if they are in Europe. So another CF is a must, unless you want to move Son out of position and also play him every single game too.

Then you get to the more debatable positions. Lloris isn’t getting any younger and their backup isn’t a good keeper. Dele Alli hasn’t been consistently good for a long time now and has the creativity of peak Eriksen been fully replaced?

So absolutely essential signings...

RB, CB, LB, DMC and backup CF, with GK on the horizon.

And even then, you still might need another few players to really replace Eriksen and Alli.

That is a lot for any club, nevermind a club paying for a brand new stadium.

They didn’t properly invest for years. They should have sold Toby, Eriksen, Dier and Vertonghan gradually and refreshed the squad. They didn’t do that and they let it get stale.

I think they have too much to do and people are overrating the squad they have now, but time will tell.

This is exactly what I meant with my post. Because of few poor results, the rebuild is overplayed. Just few months back, Manutd fans wanted most of Spurs players. Now they need players in every position.
 
This is exactly what I meant with my post. Because of few poor results, the rebuild is overplayed. Just few months back, Manutd fans wanted most of Spurs players. Now they need players in every position.
It's always like that but no team is ever 'complete'. They'll probably sign 3-4 players in summer and that's it. Still good enough to challenge for Top3-4 next season.
 
This is exactly what I meant with my post. Because of few poor results, the rebuild is overplayed. Just few months back, Manutd fans wanted most of Spurs players. Now they need players in every position.

The players fans wanted were Kane, Son, and at a push, Alderweireld on a free transfer.

I would still have Kane and Son here, and I would probably have Lucas/Bergwijn because we have no viable right hand side, but that would be that for me from the current squad.

It’s just an opinion, and time will tell if they have a resurgence with no real investment. I doubt they will get four players in the summer.

I think Poch got the absolute maximum out of the squad and should have been allowed to refresh it more along the way.
 
Ummm ok... do tell?

Multiple photo's of him in an Arsenal kit outweigh any excuses he's used to placate the Tottenham fans.

Literally laughable attempt to either be a WUM or literally have no clue what you are on about, he started his youth career with Arsenal :D. If he wasn't a Spurs fan he would have been gone by now.
 
The players fans wanted were Kane, Son, and at a push, Alderweireld on a free transfer.

I would still have Kane and Son here, and I would probably have Lucas/Bergwijn because we have no viable right hand side, but that would be that for me from the current squad.

It’s just an opinion, and time will tell if they have a resurgence with no real investment. I doubt they will get four players in the summer.

I think Poch got the absolute maximum out of the squad and should have been allowed to refresh it more along the way.

No, you really wouldn't want him.
 
The players fans wanted were Kane, Son, and at a push, Alderweireld on a free transfer.

I would still have Kane and Son here, and I would probably have Lucas/Bergwijn because we have no viable right hand side, but that would be that for me from the current squad.

It’s just an opinion, and time will tell if they have a resurgence with no real investment. I doubt they will get four players in the summer.

I think Poch got the absolute maximum out of the squad and should have been allowed to refresh it more along the way.

Players like Rose, Alli were rated very highly too.

They need investment for sure, not denying that but people coming up with 'they need half new team' are over playing the rebuild.

Yes players like Aurier, Davies are not league winning full backs but they are decent/good players. Ndombele was rated as must buy here last summer, same with Lo Celso. Spurs have both but somehow they need few more midfielders. They have Winks, Sissoko too.

They have very good attack with players like Kane, Son, Lucas, Alli all offering something different to the team. Then they have added good young player in Jan.
 
Literally laughable attempt to either be a WUM or literally have no clue what you are on about, he started his youth career with Arsenal :D. If he wasn't a Spurs fan he would have been gone by now.
OK so I'm literally just referring to pictures, yes real pictures, of Mr Harry Kane wearing Arsenal kits. So in my opinion what is laughable is the fact you must believe that every player switches who they support to their current employer.

Guaranteed he will still have some form of affinity towards Arsenal. Same as Rooney did with Everton and a million other players.

It was a flippant comment by myself but marginally relative because it begs the question even more as to why he was willing to sign over the best years of his career to play at Tottenham. Again Tottenham is a good side currently and I've nothing against them, it's just when you compare the standard of player you would be entitled to question why he would stay in this league at all not least Tottenham.
 
Some good discussion here and I'm glad to see several posters acknowledge that we require a considerable rebuild of the squad - we definitely do. This is why I get a bit frustrated when people are calling for Jose's head as none of this is his doing and he can only do what he can under the circumstances.

What I think we need are -

2 new full/wing backs

1 defensive midfielder

1 central defender - I actually think Sanchez is very good and good enough to start - our Belgians however are both on a downward spiral.

Striker

Quite a lot to get and probably 2 windows worth of signings.
 
We talked a lot in the Summer about Tottenham having a weakness at fullback and CB. They ignored both positions. Kanes needed a backup striker since he broke through as he's always been a bit prone to a few injuries now and then. Surprised they didn't sign a Striker at least in the summer, again the focus was perhaps a bit off.

I don't think it's such a big rebuild as some are suggesting though, they have excellent forwards and a very good midfield (on paper). Lo Celso and N'Dombele will be settled and ready to step up next season, they're both very good players. Whether Jose will use them both is a different matter.

It's defense that needs a major rebuild along with signing a backup striker (something they've played around with for years without actually getting a decent one).
 
We talked a lot in the Summer about Tottenham having a weakness at fullback and CB. They ignored both positions. Kanes needed a backup striker since he broke through as he's always been a bit prone to a few injuries now and then. Surprised they didn't sign a Striker at least in the summer, again the focus was perhaps a bit off.

I don't think it's such a big rebuild as some are suggesting though, they have excellent forwards and a very good midfield (on paper). Lo Celso and N'Dombele will be settled and ready to step up next season, they're both very good players. Whether Jose will use them both is a different matter.

It's defense that needs a major rebuild along with signing a backup striker (something they've played around with for years without actually getting a decent one).

Big problem for Spurs is, no matter which striker they will be back up. So they have to compromise on quality as good players won't sign just to stay as back up.

They should go for wide attackers who can also lead the line, someone like Mertens.
 
Big problem for Spurs is, no matter which striker they will be back up. So they have to compromise on quality as good players won't sign just to stay as back up.

They should go for wide attackers who can also lead the line, someone like Mertens.

They could always invest in young players who would come knowing they were backup. Over playing Kane is part of their problem though, they should rotate him a bit more.
 
They could always invest in young players who would come knowing they were backup. Over playing Kane is part of their problem though, they should rotate him a bit more.

Yeah but highly rated young players want to play good number of mins. At clubs like Spurs or Bayern where Kane and Lewandowski always plays, it's hard to convince good ones.

I agree Kane should be rotated and rested but don't think Kane will agree with that. He wants individual awards.
 
Yeah I rated him to be able to take the step up. Although barely watched Lyon so might have judged him poorly.
I think it’s a question of how much we rate or even overrate performances in Ligue 1. JPRouve is our resident expert here and gives the best view imo
 
They could always invest in young players who would come knowing they were backup. Over playing Kane is part of their problem though, they should rotate him a bit more.

Jose doesn't rotate so its kind of a waste to buy someone under that premise.
 
I think it’s a question of how much we rate or even overrate performances in Ligue 1. JPRouve is our resident expert here and gives the best view imo

Ndombele is a curious case, there is moments of absolute brilliance and moments of absolute embarrassment. I know quite a bit about him from researching him and it seems to all boil down to his attitude and really what he can be bothered to do. If he committed to his game and his own fitness/development there is no doubt in my mind he would be a worldly, problem is it really looks like he cant be arsed.
 
They could always invest in young players who would come knowing they were backup. Over playing Kane is part of their problem though, they should rotate him a bit more.

Didn't we try to sign Morata and his response to Poch was something like "You have Kane, why would you want me?".
 
Didn't we try to sign Morata and his response to Poch was something like "You have Kane, why would you want me?".

I can understand that with Morata though as he was already benched at a high tier team. I'm thinking you should be targeting a young player who has the potential of becoming excellent. You don't even seem to be bothering with that anymore, your last young striker you bought was that lad from Eredivisie who you flogged a season or two later.

Dunno, just for me not good practise to rely purely on Kane and cross your fingers he doesn't get injured when his medical history tells you he'll get at least one injury a season and when he is injured you're half a team. Myron Boadu for example would be an interesting signing.
 
And just like that Spurs team is in atrocious state all of a sudden. Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Yeah, they do need a bit of rebuild/new players in some positions and him doing pretty shit job at the same time. Not like Spurs were flying while Son and Kane where in the team.

He is really master at lowering expectations.
 
I can understand that with Morata though as he was already benched at a high tier team. I'm thinking you should be targeting a young player who has the potential of becoming excellent. You don't even seem to be bothering with that anymore, your last young striker you bought was that lad from Eredivisie who you flogged a season or two later.

Dunno, just for me not good practise to rely purely on Kane and cross your fingers he doesn't get injured when his medical history tells you he'll get at least one injury a season and when he is injured you're half a team. Myron Boadu for example would be an interesting signing.

Oh I agree I would like an understudy but Troy Parrot is really highly thought of behind the scenes but clearly Jose feels his head isn't quite ready.
 
Yeah for sure. I’ve seen a few pics younger with Arse kits on, I’m sure he’s even admitted it in an interview?

Edit: Yeah google it and you will see him in Arsenal strips and also discussing it in interviews.
He played for Arsenal youth and released at around 10 yrs old.

So? Plenty of players supported the rival club of their current team as kids.
 
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