Rojo is ruining the game for us. He’s tasked to start the attack from back but he’s just hoofing the ball to no one. Ball playing CBs are so essential in the game these days. We might need to play Lindelof to get the ball out.
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Rojo is ruining the game for us. He’s tasked to start the attack from back but he’s just hoofing the ball to no one. Ball playing CBs are so essential in the game these days. We might need to play Lindelof to get the ball out.
Sometimes the best defense is to attack, it just really is. You have to trouble that City back 5 much more.
I don’t care what Henry says.
What I saw was pointless hoofing with no real accuracy to Lukaku.
That goal should give us faith. We are showing them far too much respect.
Crucial 15 mins for him now.
Surely it makes sense to go for it? We need the win far more than City do. As Noel said, if City win, lose or draw then they still maintain a distinct gap.
If we draw or lose then for me the title is all but gone, but then our rivals have dropped points this weekend. Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool all did. So we maintain our top 4 standing.
What we do have to lose is pride, and although that’s significant I’m sure the fans will be more forgiving if we do so having gone for it.
Surely it makes sense to go for it? We need the win far more than City do. As Noel said, if City win, lose or draw then they still maintain a distinct gap.
If we draw or lose then for me the title is all but gone, but then our rivals have dropped points this weekend. Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool all did. So we maintain our top 4 standing.
What we do have to lose is pride, and although that’s significant I’m sure the fans will be more forgiving if we do so having gone for it.
There's hitting them on the counter and then there's this pathetic display of 'football'.
Our players can play some football. When they actually tried to do it they scored within four minutes.
I understand the wider tactics in principle but it's too much of one and not enough of the other.
You lot need to calm down a bit. We are missing Pogba, it was always going to be a struggle especially in midfield without him.
The game is still there to win so lets wait and see what happens.
The game is still there to win so lets wait and see what happens.
The moment we decided to do the sane thing and switch Martial and Rashford, we played some half decent stuff. How is that missed by the brilliant people at the helm!
Mourinho always, always worried about the opposition first which will stifle our players most of the times. He seems set in his ways and I really cannot see this tripe after the team we put out. We should have troubled them a lot more but we have played like a team who have won promotion to top flight for the first time in history. We are treating them with more respect than SAF gave Pep's Barca.
defensively we are solid
we aren't a coherent attacking unit though when we play decent sides
how many times this year have we struggled to find Lukaku with any quality passes
we aren't a coherent attacking unit though when we play decent sides
how many times this year have we struggled to find Lukaku with any quality passes
In theory how we're playing is correct, we're just not doing a very good job of it and City are containing well. Would be a different game with Pogba out there.
We’re hardly parking the bus as most of you are saying! We’re playing with an offensive 11 but we cant penetrate city’s midfield to get at their back 4.
If we played fellani and had 3 CDMs you would all say the starting 11 is negative and built to park the bus. It doesn’t help that the CBs are all hoofing it up to a very poor Lukaku.
Lindelof is warming up so I reckon we could revert back what we had against Arsenal. Martial/Lingard will likely come off for the extra CB.
Still a pretty poor performance so far and Rashfords goal was a get out of jail free card.
If we played fellani and had 3 CDMs you would all say the starting 11 is negative and built to park the bus. It doesn’t help that the CBs are all hoofing it up to a very poor Lukaku.
Lindelof is warming up so I reckon we could revert back what we had against Arsenal. Martial/Lingard will likely come off for the extra CB.
Still a pretty poor performance so far and Rashfords goal was a get out of jail free card.
We weren't even trying to pass before City scored
I used to look forward to big games, but thanks to Jose's approach in them, that is no longer the case.
Yes, that was the result of what City were doing. That doesn't mean it was the plan.
It's more a symptom of the lack of composure that afflicts half our team when pressed and has done for years.
Huge half-time opportunity for Mourinho, really hope he takes it.
Change that fecking formation and lets at least play an effective counter attacking game.
Mourinho's gotta take this 2nd half and change it up a bit.
Change that fecking formation and lets at least play an effective counter attacking game.
Mourinho's gotta take this 2nd half and change it up a bit.
Then Mourinho should work hard in training to improve the movements of the players. If a team presses and the only possible resort to it is to hoof, then there would be no difference between a top team and a relegation fodder.
Dare I say, City try this to Madrid and they will still find passing angles and blow them away on the counter.
Jose's approach to the match is just miserbale. We played like a bunch of wimps in that first half watching City pop it about in awe. What made it worse was that all we did was play basic simpleton hoofball when we had the ball.
And exactly this,
We have a good team. One definitely capable of forcing City to have to play well. Let's not have an inferiority complex. We're Manchester United.
And exactly this,
We have a good team. One definitely capable of forcing City to have to play well. Let's not have an inferiority complex. We're Manchester United.
We are not bad attack wise but Jose somehow always gives too much respect to pep and his side.
Let us Ffs attackk
Let us Ffs attackk
Can’t blame Jose for our defenders forgetting Silva existed and leaving him on his own in the 6 yard box.
Well yes, it has been an issue since before he arrived. We used to struggle horribly with any sort of press under Ferguson too.
He’s got a little willy. Something like that can’t be fixed, it’s genetics.
This was not the bus, it was the fecking Pyramid of Giza. Cannot believe Jose thinks surrendering the midfield upto the 18 yard line to City is a bright idea.
Oh stop with that excuse. Understand what you're saying but we're United and have spent shite loads on players over the years to have a decent squad with depth. We should be able to face any team when we're short one player, no matter who.
Real would miss Ronaldo, Barca Messi- they still wouldn't be using that as an excuse.
Now its not been a good watch by any stretch of imagination but please some of you look at things clearer.
Man City have the best midfield in the league and constantly create overloads there. We have Pogba, Fellaini and Carrick out meaning we're forced to play with 2 against 3 but sometimes 4 or 5. The only tactic that really makes sense is to sit deep and break on the counter.
We've not executed the plan well enough but in light of our current midfield makeup its the right tactic.
We knew once Pogba was out we'd be hopeless in keeping possesion and with Felli out as well there is no out ball in midfield.
Man City have the best midfield in the league and constantly create overloads there. We have Pogba, Fellaini and Carrick out meaning we're forced to play with 2 against 3 but sometimes 4 or 5. The only tactic that really makes sense is to sit deep and break on the counter.
We've not executed the plan well enough but in light of our current midfield makeup its the right tactic.
We knew once Pogba was out we'd be hopeless in keeping possesion and with Felli out as well there is no out ball in midfield.
Of course it isn't out of 'preference'. But that just means Jose needs to do a better job of making us good enough to deal with it.
I don't think players are being instructed to show this composure you speak of. Smalling and Rojo have clearly been told to bypass the midfield, Herrera and Matic have been told to spoil and it's up to Lingard to pick up any loose punts up the field and initiate attacking moves with a pacey front three.
We're actually a lot better than that. We can knock it about a bit and take the game to City in spells, while still playing a counter attacking game.
The first half was dogshit and it takes a special sort of Mourinho convert to justify its value.
Bullshit
Until Lukaku allowed Otamendi to bully him and they scored. You would think someone of Lukaku’s size will win anything in the air, I thought wrong. He’s so useless aerially.
The only other midfielder we have is Mctominay
I actually feel sorry for Jose here, we’ve put an attack minded side but we look petrified of the ball. Were miles off them in Midfield and giving them far too much space.
Not sure what else Jose can do.
Not sure what else Jose can do.
I dont blame Jose too much for that. Some of the issues come down to individual players. Rojo hoofing it aimlessly needds to be stopped. But the problem is, Smalling is no better. Young has done it as well, but its been pretty aimless.
As soon as we conceded, the same players managed to put some passes together and put pressure which lead the equaliser.
As soon as we conceded, the same players managed to put some passes together and put pressure which lead the equaliser.
Forget the best form of defence. Attacking is also, extremely surprisingly, the best form of attack.
Let's actual try to win the game now in the second half.
Kompany going off. That’s a big boost for us.
How’s it bullshit. If you are suggesting our midfield is as good as City’s then you are deluded.
We have the better defence, they have a much better midfield. Jose’s tactics so far have been spot on.
It’s not his fault we don’t have players who can play accurate passes from 5-10 yards.
What’s Jose meant to do?
Oh they're certainly instructed to look for the long ball, it would be stupid not to if you're trying to be direct. There's just a huge, huge chasm between that and aimlessly hoofing it however. We will be thinking of the former, but we got the latter.
We blatantly haven't played well, but from the posts in here you'd assumed that the intention was not to play well.
The only other midfielder we have is Mctominay
Yea and ? What? if 4-3-3 is better then 4-2-3-1 then play McT but for that you have to put your trust in a kid, risk it, who knows he might surprise him.
he lost an individual defensive encounter...generally speaking are you saying we aren't defensively solid?
we're best in the league or there abouts are we not?
I'm more concerned about the lack of service to Lukaku as he's having to fight for long pumped balls and this is over a number of games
Holy shit, guy says we are forced, i say bullshit because we have options and then you come out of nowhere with that !?
I hate this Lukaku!!!
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