Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added
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Feck, give it Fergie for the rest of the season. He might fancy having a short and sweet stint winding up Pep and Klopp
Nah Frogie's going to do the Scotland job, via Skype.
Am running out of ideas.
What's Vidic up to nowadays?
He's intelligent and charismatic and 'gets us' - I say surround him with some world class coaches and see how he goes.£300m is chicken change when José spend it? Talk about moving goal posts
He wouldn’t be my first choice. But if Mourinho does bail on us at the end of the season then there will be very few managers with his vast experience available.
We've made the best start to a league campaign since 2011, the best start to a CL campaign since 2012, yet everybody's rubbing their hands together at the prospect of the manager leaving. Embarrassing.
His track record of winning league titles is pretty poor though.
Have PSG even given any indication that they’d want Mourinho? They seem to be doing just fine as it is. Don’t think Neymar would take too kindly to be asked to play as a LWB.
Welcome to the internet. It’s grim.
Not sure why it’s Jose’s fault that our 3 CB’s left Morata so open in front of goal he could have chested the ball down, eaten a burger and then kicked the ball into the net.
Seriously though, if Mourinho keeps pushing like this, I wouldn't be surprised if the board don't think about getting in touch with Ancelloti.
I mean Ed looks real goofy, but that man seems as ruthless as anything. I also don't think he likes being dragged publicly, so Jose might not be in such a superior position as he thinks he is.
I mean Ed looks real goofy, but that man seems as ruthless as anything. I also don't think he likes being dragged publicly, so Jose might not be in such a superior position as he thinks he is.
This is very true. He’s another one that would likely only stay 2-3 years tops too.
It certainly looks as though the era of Manchester United manager longevity is over
No one is rubbing their hands at more disruption. It's your mate Jose that's causing all this upset.
Do you really think the manager should be leaking shit about wanting more money and not being happy with some aspects of the club? Surely these things should be discussed with the board? What employee goes and does that?
I don't want our board to give in to him. It's the same way he always behaves: he pouts and get's more £££; a short while later he moans about some problem only he can see; then the club gets fed up and sacks him, and Jose walks away with a massive pay off. It's his way always.
The manager is being unreasonable and disruptive in the middle of our season. What do you suggest we do in this situation?
This is very true. He’s another one that would likely only stay 2-3 years tops too.
It certainly looks as though the era of Manchester United manager longevity is over
There’s always Giggs, you would have to drag him out of OT
Well. Zidane might be available soon
There’s always Giggs, you would have to drag him out of OT
Good old Giggsy. He wouldn’t pull the clubs name through the mud, but he would sleep with all the players wives
Well. Zidane might be available soon
Now we are talking!
You could always give him the benefit of the doubt and not believe everything you read in the gutter press .
Zidane’s a strange one. Is a genius having a poor season, or an average manager that inherited a brilliant team?
I must have misinterpreted your post and brought up Pep since the main criticism on the caf seems to be that we don't play football to their standard.
We should absolutely back him in the transfer market and be realistic about what it will take to compete with City, I see Mourinho's comments as a way to put pressure on the board to back him rather than want to leave, if he walked away in the summer he'd never get another chance.
Good old Giggsy. He wouldn’t pull the clubs name through the mud, but he would sleep with all the players wives
Speaking of hypotheticals, no Ancelotti if Mourinho leaves, please. He's one of the greatest managers of the modern era, but United needs a good organizer for the attack and Carlo can be too hands-off in training - including his latest stint at Bayern:
We aren't mature enough as a team for Ancelotti to have the desired effect - not the best fit at this moment in time. Would prefer someone like Jardim - who's excellent at developing players and can design good offenses. Would be a great appointment for the likes of Martial and Rashford in particular:
Link.
We aren't mature enough as a team for Ancelotti to have the desired effect - not the best fit at this moment in time. Would prefer someone like Jardim - who's excellent at developing players and can design good offenses. Would be a great appointment for the likes of Martial and Rashford in particular:
Link.
It's not what I've read in the press. It's his way. Have you not been paying attention to how he operates?
Anyway, we'll see what happens.
Give him the benefit of the doubt for his own doing?
This is not the first time. This kind of media circus follows him all his career and it is not that it is all down to media as well.
So, it is understandable people have some concerns and he gives others to moan.
Yeah, he does seem slightly more flexible in terms of forming his coaching staff though. One thing I'd say he possibly has in his favour, he has followed mourinho before at Madrid & I'd say he took them up a level. Maybe his methods aren't as suited to taking over a team that pep coached, he just wasn't the right fit at that time at Bayern maybe. If Jose walked, I have him on a shortlist , at least caretaker till the end of season if he'd be interested in that sort of proposal.
I like the idea of Zidane taking over whenever Jose leaves.
But he's still a unknown. Majority of the Madrid team was built from other managers and there's not really one signing of his. So we don't know how he is in the transfer market.
The plus point is that he's Zidane. France have a golden generation coming up and they'd love to play for him. I just want to see how he reacts to this recent Madrid slump.
But he's still a unknown. Majority of the Madrid team was built from other managers and there's not really one signing of his. So we don't know how he is in the transfer market.
The plus point is that he's Zidane. France have a golden generation coming up and they'd love to play for him. I just want to see how he reacts to this recent Madrid slump.
I posted this in the newbie section, but decided to post it on here as well.
Hi first I would like to say I am a Manchester City fan first time posting here. Only have watched a couple Manchester United games the season including your game against Chelsea. This will be more my observations of the Chelsea game.
I think that you have better players then they are being portrayed of late. I would say what you are most lacking is a top midfield pivot and while yes Pogba will help with that. I think his skills are best shown a little farther forward. It seemed like there was no connection between your defense and attack. It seemed Lukaku and at times Rashford were stranded up top fairly often. Now while I think you are operating without a top pivot this is not entirely the issue because lets face it many teams with players nowhere good as yours have a team that transitions to attack a lot kicker then your's does. Traditionally that rapid killer break has been one of the key facets of a Mourinho team and at the moment it is missing. I am not sure why this is so he has always been great at this.
To me though this is because your team is too stretched. The space between your midfield and forwards is huge. I don't think Lukaku is actually bad at holding up the ball, but you can only hold it up for so long with no support. Often when he received it him and Rashford would be in a 4v2 with support taking even world class players would find such situations difficult.
I am not sure why this is happening. If it it the positions Mourinho is setting up his team in with the forwards either too far up the pitch or all midfielders sitting too deep, Mourinho telling his midfielders to stay back, or maybe the midfielders themselves aren't transitioning fast enough themselves though I find this doubtful with the qualities your players possess. Maybe it really is the lack of a pivot that is holding you back.
Interestingly Manchester United have covered the least distance covered in the league so far:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-total-team-distances-11478064
I think this shows you are playing too stretched. I am not saying be as compact as Manchester City, but I think distance covered shows your team is not moving around enough as a unit. I can't form conclusions why this is happening, but think their is something tactically wrong with the way you are setting up.
Hi first I would like to say I am a Manchester City fan first time posting here. Only have watched a couple Manchester United games the season including your game against Chelsea. This will be more my observations of the Chelsea game.
I think that you have better players then they are being portrayed of late. I would say what you are most lacking is a top midfield pivot and while yes Pogba will help with that. I think his skills are best shown a little farther forward. It seemed like there was no connection between your defense and attack. It seemed Lukaku and at times Rashford were stranded up top fairly often. Now while I think you are operating without a top pivot this is not entirely the issue because lets face it many teams with players nowhere good as yours have a team that transitions to attack a lot kicker then your's does. Traditionally that rapid killer break has been one of the key facets of a Mourinho team and at the moment it is missing. I am not sure why this is so he has always been great at this.
To me though this is because your team is too stretched. The space between your midfield and forwards is huge. I don't think Lukaku is actually bad at holding up the ball, but you can only hold it up for so long with no support. Often when he received it him and Rashford would be in a 4v2 with support taking even world class players would find such situations difficult.
I am not sure why this is happening. If it it the positions Mourinho is setting up his team in with the forwards either too far up the pitch or all midfielders sitting too deep, Mourinho telling his midfielders to stay back, or maybe the midfielders themselves aren't transitioning fast enough themselves though I find this doubtful with the qualities your players possess. Maybe it really is the lack of a pivot that is holding you back.
Interestingly Manchester United have covered the least distance covered in the league so far:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-total-team-distances-11478064
I think this shows you are playing too stretched. I am not saying be as compact as Manchester City, but I think distance covered shows your team is not moving around enough as a unit. I can't form conclusions why this is happening, but think their is something tactically wrong with the way you are setting up.
Probably something in the middle. There are certain unique characteristics about the Madrid job that might have made him a good fit. Sophisticated man magement for example sure is one and the fact that a team with very powerful players hasn't seen any unrest from within the dressing room speaks volumes in this regard.
Tactically he did okay imo the structure in Madrid only allows for certain types of football (Ronaldo or Benzema won't suddenly put serious effort into getting the ball back) and he found one that worked.
Not sure how good his motivation skillset is though. Ancelotti wasn't a coach that energized the players (and Benitez doesn't seem to be the enthusiastic type either) and it doesn't seem to me that he is one. I can accept that it's also plausible that the player complacency we are witnessing now didn't start earlier because of him (they got 2 CL in 3 years before the back to back already) though.
Are you genuinely giving a manager stick for the rambling in the media as if it's fact? Christ.
This is what I expected of Mou and we are doing ok, despite bloody boring performances and some flattering results against lower teams.
We have a lot of ok players, a few very good ones and a defensive minded manager so it's not surprising to see us set up how we do. I think what annoys me (and hopefully most United fans) is that I don't think we need to set up this way to be successful - you don't have to be as reckless as Klopp but somewhere in between Klopp & Mou is perfect. Spurs play better football week in week out, develop talent better than us and for probably a 5th of our wage bill.
We have a lot of ok players, a few very good ones and a defensive minded manager so it's not surprising to see us set up how we do. I think what annoys me (and hopefully most United fans) is that I don't think we need to set up this way to be successful - you don't have to be as reckless as Klopp but somewhere in between Klopp & Mou is perfect. Spurs play better football week in week out, develop talent better than us and for probably a 5th of our wage bill.
Spurs have a better squad than ours. Also, we do employ somewhere in between - we did it against Chelsea and Spurs. We beat Spurs and lost to Chelsea. Only game we've been overly defensive this season was Liverpool and that was mainly because we were outnumbered in midfield and couldn't get out of our half.
I wouldn't anything to do with Ancelotti. I think he's vastly overrated.
People who look for anything to criticise Mourinho for are the worst type of supporters. Miserable people.
I said it gives people and media to BS around whether it is a fact or not. Which is an unnecessary distraction around.
And, happens with him all the time.
Be miserable then. You guys are annoying.
I know how it feels. I myself try not to watch or read his shit if I can sometimes.
Are we not allowed to voice our opinions?
Criticising every little thing he does, sometimes not even considering the context, is horrible and miserable. People like this dont deserve anything.
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