Time to start getting ruthless in January.
Jose Mourinho | 2017/18 Assessments | Poll Added
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We are second in the league and doing much better than last season.
We should be smashing Bristol City with no manager. It was just complacency (mixed with some players just being shite *Darmian) from the players. You could argue it's his job to get them ready for the game, which I agree with, but that's not a good enough reason to excuse them.
Second season of Mourinho, and we got knocked out of the first competition now. Let’s see what’s gonna happen on CL and FA cup. If he doesn’t get any trophy this year. I wonder should United stick with him anymore as his record on third season was awful.
Of course he was. It’s not really tactics when you play that many second string players. The fringe players let him down tonight.
Can him in the summer.
Wouldn't give him any more money.
He's not going to win any major titles with United
Wouldn't give him any more money.
He's not going to win any major titles with United
I get that he didn't tell his players to be shit, but is it not fair to ask what he actually did tell his players? Because they all looked like the Championship team tonight. Didn't look like anyone had any idea what they were actually doing
I wonder if he genuinely rates McTominay or is he trying to buy into United way of giving youth a chance, we got dominated in the center for the millionth time. This time it was Bristol fecking City, it's infuriating how many second balls we don't contest never mind win, you see City playing midgets in midfield and they run and tackle more than our supposed powerhouse.
And hire who?
Same question for you as well, hire who?
And hire who?
Same question for you as well, hire who?
Has us playing like a league one team.
We’ve been very lucky recently. A few of the wins could easily have been dropped points. Tonight the luck ran out!
We’ve been very lucky recently. A few of the wins could easily have been dropped points. Tonight the luck ran out!
Man he just said they got lucky. Nah Mate they just outplayed us.
He’s a professional manager. He almost certainly treated this as any other game in terms of preparation. Any doubts about that are just ridiculous.
As others have stated perhaps changing the team to the extent he did was an issue...but those players have the capacity to do the job that was needed. They just didn’t, and I imagine that’s natural complacency which we’ve witnessed on many occasions (Leeds at Home in the FA Cup, MK Dons away in 2014).
This is my biggest problem with our set of players, we dont have any fecking oomph, in the lack of a better word, we seem to chicken out and never get to the second balls.
I don't think he is tactically good enough anymore. Also mentally something is not right. He is not the big confident winner anymore and the same can be said with our team. I think we need to let go in the summer. We will win enough games in the league, but that edge to win titles is gone.
They got lucky? Come on man!!!
Who was he referring to when he said some players looked like didn't want to be in the office? Reckon it's Blind?
I don't doubt for a second that Mou is a professional, and a very, very good manager, but there's been more occasions this season where questions can be raised about what our gameplan actually is, because very often it looks like he spends a lot of time making the defence right, then tosses a lot of attacking players out there and expect them to just get things done.
Again I am forced to ask: what the hell is going on in training?
Why isn't Mourinho sorting out our atrocious movement?
Why is our tempo and ball circulation (still) so awful?
Why do we keep looking like 11 strangers who have never played together before in their lives?
Other than that, couldn't care less about this cup, so won't be shedding any tears over this.
Why isn't Mourinho sorting out our atrocious movement?
Why is our tempo and ball circulation (still) so awful?
Why do we keep looking like 11 strangers who have never played together before in their lives?
Other than that, couldn't care less about this cup, so won't be shedding any tears over this.
I think he made a mistake playing both Rashford and Martial. Mata should have played.
Darmian, Rojo, Blind, were all quite fecking shocking, take your pick.
That's just the usual line he uses when we drop points.
Yeah was thinking that for a while, he tactically not the most flexible but what made him great is game management and that sense of invincibility sort of aura if you will but doesn't feel like it's still there with him. Let's see though.
Normally I'd give any youth player plenty of time but I always felt exactly that - mctominnay is more to do about pleasing us alongside not having to change the style of football too much.
Yeah we lost because of the balance alright
Well we needed more control of the game. There was issues with Blind, Mctominay and Darmian as well. No need to make snide remarks.
A lot of work ahead in sorting out the squad. It really is not just about the first XI, even though we are short there by about 2-3 players (or 4-5 depending on what our objectives are).
Who do you suggest replaces him mate? Whoever it is, when the media blow torch gets turned up they will go to water. Just ask LVG and Moyes.
Reading that interview with Terry and how meticulous he is at preparation, then watching us at many, many points this season I have to wonder if he's still that good, or if our players are just thick.
Our play has dropped lately. We need to start playing better.
Has to get the team to perform better.
Has to get the team to perform better.
Ot maybe he inherited too many players from LVG who don't have right mentality?
Am not sure how you can blame the manager for our teams disjointed and disrespectful play. Ridiculous Slalom attempts from Rashford and Martial instead of playing the easy pass. Thats on them, not the manager
I've gone from being indifferent to him being sacked to being José out. It's not about the results or lack of a title challenge - it's our football. We're horrendous to watch (with or without Pogba).
I'm not going to post anymore negative stuff about him - I'm just going to patiently wait for him to leave. If he proves me wrong then great.
I'm not going to post anymore negative stuff about him - I'm just going to patiently wait for him to leave. If he proves me wrong then great.
I don't think it's either. Terry said he was the same in his second Chelsea stint, I don't see why he'd change so drastically in 2 years. The players aren't thick either imo, it was just a case of them getting complacent. With the players that played today, albeit they were mostly all second string, we should be beating Bristol City with or without a manager.
How did he have us play like a league 1 team tonight?
Jepp it has not been the same since his days in Real Madrid I think. I think maybe getting tactically outclassed by Pep hurt him with his methods not being enough. The defeat against Pep now again must hurt really deep as well. It is difficult, but we should keep on fighting. Overall the results have been good, but we are not performing at our best in the most important games. I think that is a huge problem. Similar to Arsenal under Wenger for a long time.
The squad isn't good enough so when we make 10 (!) changes it shows.
Im not sure what tactial work can be done with those players when theres so many changes in a week of 3 games in 6 days though
Im not sure what tactial work can be done with those players when theres so many changes in a week of 3 games in 6 days though
Ever since he stopped wearing suits like he was in the beginning of the season we have sucked 
It is the basic attacking tactics that is not there. That is something you should have worked on over 1,5 years. You can have specific tactics and changes in different games, but basic methods of attacking and breaking down teams is something you should work on over time. You can see that with Pep. They struggled last seasons, but now the work they have done is paying off and they are attacking better as a team.
His tactics are pish and he’s a bit of a knob really.
Needs to get back to basics with half those prima donnas. Some coaching wouldn’t go a miss. Looks like they never work on anything to improve week on week other than goal celebrations and dabbing, while José works on alienating himself from everyone and excuses.
We will struggle for top 4 if he doesn’t get his thumb out and pull a team together out of those misfits.
Needs to get back to basics with half those prima donnas. Some coaching wouldn’t go a miss. Looks like they never work on anything to improve week on week other than goal celebrations and dabbing, while José works on alienating himself from everyone and excuses.
We will struggle for top 4 if he doesn’t get his thumb out and pull a team together out of those misfits.
A team with Zlatan,Pogba,Rashford and Martial in it should be able to beat most teams. Let’s not forget the rest of the internationals that were on the pitch. ‘The squad isn’t good enough” honestly some people are having an absolute wum.
If we make CL for next season, not even a doubt he stays.
You can see the job he had was much bigger than people would think.
Hes basically having to replace 8 of the starting 11 from the team he inherited. He had a squad but no starting line up imo.
Its not that players like Rashford & martial are not good enough - it's just that they are simply not Jose players. These are the exact type of players that he would have sold at Chelsea because it would be allowed to only for them to come bite him in the back. This isn't Chelsea though.
Think about it : we are asking martial & Rashford to cross the ball in to Lukaku to score. That is just a mess.
He needs it his way with his players & he isn't adaptable enough to utilise the players at his disposal. I don't think he has time to change it the way he wants & I'm not particularly interested in it.
Think about it : we are asking martial & Rashford to cross the ball in to Lukaku to score. That is just a mess.
He needs it his way with his players & he isn't adaptable enough to utilise the players at his disposal. I don't think he has time to change it the way he wants & I'm not particularly interested in it.
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