The Kurdish One
José Mourinho: Fenerbahçe Manager (sack watch)
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I know the word carries some weight in genuine racism debates, but they were genuinely jumping up and down like excitable monkeys.
It’s a bizarre claim.
It’s a bizarre claim.
Oh dear
They're probably getting bit nervous as they're only 6 points above Fenerbahce (think it was more earlier in the season) and got knocked out in Europa easily by AZ.
I have respect for what he has achieved but it was clear he was done when he was at Man Utd. He should have retired and became a pundit. I actually think he is a very good pundit - doesn't parrot the most obvious opinions or use sensationalism every time he has the opportunity.
"Three Reichs for me"
Do monkeys even jump that much? Go with fleas or kangaroos, they're your go tos. Unless Jose thinks they could have actually been even more OTT?
have you never seen monkeys before?
So how is he doing in The Solskjær Table?
Think Ole has yet to lose - we're waiting for Erik to be confirmed as Gala boss to get a three way battle
It's not really racist though. There is no historical context of calling Turks monkeys to dehumanise them.
Hand on heart id take him back at United in a heartbeat.
If we’re going to be insignificant as a club (which we are atm) id kinda love to have an absolute character like him in charge.
If we’re going to be insignificant as a club (which we are atm) id kinda love to have an absolute character like him in charge.
A quick look at the Istanlig post 18.1 (all comps):
Besiktas 7 5 1 1 16pts/7gms 2,29 ppg
Fener 11 7 4 0 25pts/11gms 2.27 ppg
Gala 9 4 3 2 15pts/9gms 1.67 ppg
Solskjær ahead of Mou as per usual.
Gala needs Ten Hag to compete.
He’s doing his usual shtick of trying to get sacked and getting a pay out. Unlike other occasions, he’s started his routine before the ink on that contract was even dry because he realized he didn’t fancy Turkey the moment he stepped foot there.
No idea what this means.It will be super interesting to see if they both stay there as I feel the teams are quite evenly matched. Get the impression Jose will be desperate to try and move this summer though, Gala are too strong unless they lose some players and he seems constantly at odds with the league standards etc.
Which is very fair. One of my least favourite trips.
They love Ole on the Besiktas sub Reddit. Think they can’t manage to keep a hold of him for too long.
They throw shit at you. Which is what Mourinho has been doing since he left Madrid.
Why? I heard Turkey is a beautiful place
Seriously though, can we not do this?
Just a little tongue in cheek after all the polarized pro-Mou and pro-Solskjær arguments here at the time when they actually competed in the same league. Their head-to-head in games stand at 2-1-2 (Man Utd/Cardiff vs Chelsea/Tottenham). United took more points per game than Tottenham when they were both in charge in the same league (by far), so now the duel continues.
It will be super interesting to see if they both stay there as I feel the teams are quite evenly matched. Get the impression Jose will be desperate to try and move this summer though, Gala are too strong unless they lose some players and he seems constantly at odds with the league standards etc.
For me as a Norwegian, it’s just funny to think that the 21 year old I saw play at Ullevål Stadion for Molde FK should one day have comparative records with one of the three greatest club managers to exist in my time as a football follower.
He's a chequebook manager. Amorim is the perfect austerity manager if we get the profiles he's after
The problem is when the refs from abroad become incompetent too
Bit unfair that, mate - he was doing it long before then too.
Mourinho's always been the same, the difference has been how that shit / shtick is interpreted (and, nowadays, carries less clout anyway because he's less successful).
When he was managing Porto and beating United in the CL, and managing Chelsea and up against Fergie's United it was interpreted positive to an OTT level - he was the charming, enigmatic 'good' in the good v bad battle against us and Fergie.
It all changed when he went to Real Madrid, a club which neutrals tend to dislike and side with their rivals - and his same shtick was interpreted negatively and he became the 'bad' in the whole Jose v Pep, Ronaldo v Messi, Madrid v Barcelona battles.
When he returned to Chelsea, that new negative reputation came with him - and he wasn't battling against United this time around either, and so people saw through his usual 'us v them, the refs are against us' BS. And of course it got interpreted even worse when he managed us. And by then there were other managers who were the darlings of the media instead.
One of the great characters in the sport, will be a sad day when he calls it a career
Love the man. Closest we've come to feeling like we were "back" was under Mourinho for me, while it lasted. He was right about players like Pogba and Rashford all the way back then too
That's true to an extent. But it always felt like it was going to be a fleeting visit that was never going to last more than 2-3 years.
I was more confident that we'd have a good season or two under him than any other manager post-Fergie, and that we'd win some trophies. So that side of it was great. But I was also sure as hell that relations would quickly go wrong and he'd leave, and that his usual 'short term thinking' approach meant we wouldn't be building anything that could last after him.
So it was always a matter of: these first couple of seasons need to go well, and we need to win as much as we can, as it won't last much longer after that.
The appointment went pretty much textbook Mourinho, and fully how I expected it. With more competent owners and set up, the trophies we won in that time may have been the PL or CL, but I'm sure it would have still gone wrong about the same time. The maximum he's stayed anywhere is 3 years, and it almost always ends acrimoniously within 2-3 years.
Getting the profiles…by drawing the chequebook?
Absolutely, it was definitely the best period post-Fergie.
TBF they’re virtually all chequebook managers …Amorim hasn’t been given a chequebook yet
Some short memories in here. His time at Utd was largely boring torture. His first season was his best when we had Ibrahimovic and Pogba firing but other than that he was shite and he didn’t achieve much of note. Oles spell yielded so many better memories and massive results.
He didn't even go to war with Fergie once while he was at Chelsea.
It was Wenger and Benitez he (and Fergie for that matter) targeted for the psychological warfare.
Winning trophies yields the best memories for me. Also the only manager post-SAF to finish on 80+ points.
Nah, no chance. Mourinho had a higher PPG + 2 trophies.
Sorry, maybe a clumsy way of wording that part. I didn't mean he had personal battles v Fergie - I meant in the public and media viewpoint it was Jose and non-perennial winners Chelsea v Fergie and perennial winners United, so portrayed as 'good' v 'bad' from that side with everything being interpreted positively at that stage regarding Jose's antics.
Whereas subsequent 'battles' he's been in against clubs competing for titles, he's been interpreted more negatively.
Must be a big ten hag fan then!
All whilst playing mind numbing football. Nobody has got close to delivering the football Ole did in that lockdown spell with Rashford - Martial - Greenwood all firing.