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He wasn't good enough when he was here so I have no idea why anyone would want him back now that he's in his thirties.
You mean he looked good when the team had a competent coach and we a were relevant top team in the league? Yeah he was the very good alongside Vidic and Ferdinand, but why is that used like some kind of beating stick? Does it take away the fact that he played good against some of the best attackers in the world? I don't think so. Pique also played alongside Vidic and Ferdinand and he looked shaky every time. He put decent performances at WBA because he is a good player, that's why. Top teams have been linked with him because he is a good player not because of this or that. Him being bettered by McNair and Blacket who the feck are those two, and what have they done with their careers?He looked good as a 22 year old playing alongside two of the best defenders of the world then. After they left, he looked average to poor for two seasons and then was sold to wba where he put in decent performances over there where they play with CBs at full back and a midfield three where almost all are defensive minded. Let’s all conveniently forgot him being bettered by paddy McNair and Tyler Blackett in his last season
Maybe, maybe not. Happens to remember a certain Gerard Pique who played alongside them also, never looked like Baresi that guy.He played next to Rio or Vidic, they were worldclass. Bailly would look like Baresi next to one of those two leading the back four.
I didn't think I'd get this far.Shite like what?
How many on this thread also didn’t want Matic
You mean he looked good when the team had a competent coach and we a were relevant top team in the league? Yeah he was the very good alongside Vidic and Ferdinand, but why is that used like some kind of beating stick? Does it take away the fact that he played good against some of the best attackers in the world? I don't think so. Pique also played alongside Vidic and Ferdinand and he looked shaky every time. He put decent performances at WBA because he is a good player, that's why. Top teams have been linked with him because he is a good player not because of this or that. Him being bettered by McNair and Blacket who the feck are those two, and what have they done with their careers?
Because the moron LVG kept them and realized they are not good enough later than most people, it means something? Please use a better argument. We've seen plenty of Evans being a very good player to judge him by his performances for a manager who though Blacket is a better player.
Maybe, maybe not. Happens to remember a certain Gerard Pique who played alongside them also, never looked like Baresi that guy.
Under LVG, Evans played a total of 14 league games, only one ended in defeat and that was the 5;3 game against Leicester where he went off injured while we were 1;2 up. That injury kept him out from September till December, and it was the only game we lost alongside that MK Dons game when he was in the team with players who barely met each other prior. Yeah we had plenty of defenders and players in general that looked bad under LVG.Under LvG almost all our defenders looked competent. Smalling was one of the best CBs. Blind as well looked very assured etc. yet Evans looking like a shit defender is lvg’s fault? I’m not having that. That Liverpool game where he singlehandedly gave sterling 3-4 chances is the pinnacle
At wba he put in decent performances. Key aspect being decent. Tom Cleverley had decent performances under SAF does that mean we have to buy him back too? Alexander Buttner and Anderson had some decent performances. What about them? Please get real. That you have to use his performances from 6-7 years ago to big him up shows his level. He was decent for a 23 year old then. The problem is he hasn’t improved one bit since then
Evans is at best, decent. Everyone of our CBs including Blind and Tuanzebe are better options currently. Him costing 3m means nothing. I’m sure Defoe would probably cost about the same doesn’t really mean we go for him.
Should we be seriously considering signing him this summer?Hes available for just 3 million quid....knows United inside out...he seems to have overcome his injury troubles,he's been a good consistent performer for West brom.Plus he's a very good distributor of the ball who knows how to bring the ball out from the back and at 30,he definitely has at least another 3-4 seasons left in him.So,should we bring him back or should we just look for an upgrade??
Well I know a dud when I see one and Lindelof falls right into that category. Get shut.That is nothing but baseless, lazy conjecture. You don’t sign someone for £30m+ without doing your homework, considering the other players we could have signed. Just because he hasn’t shown his qualities yet does not mean he has none - he’s only had one decent run in the team this season.
Well I know a dud when I see one and Lindelof falls right into that category. Get shut.
Under LVG, Evans played a total of 14 league games, only one ended in defeat and that was the 5;3 game against Leicester where he went off injured while we were 1;2 up. That injury kept him out from September till December, and it was the only game we lost alongside that MK Dons game when he was in the team with players who barely met each other prior. Yeah we had plenty of defenders and players in general that looked bad under LVG.
He played a total of 1495 minutes, not even 17 games for a coach that played Smalling the whole season who looked our best CB, then planned on starting the next season ditching him in the expense of Phil Jones. You mentioning Cleverley, Anderson and Buttner to prove a point shows how little you've watched them in the past 3 years. And even then, Cleverley/Ando/Buttner don't even come close to the career Evans had here, although injuries derailed his career in the last few years with us.
That last paragraph contains so much nonsense it's ridiculous. You mean Tuanzebe who can't get into the first team at Aston Villa ahead of an aging Terry and James fecking Chester? Blind is good player, but obviously not a type of CB Jose would play. Him costing 3m means a good bargain for a team needing reliable CB cover. I anticipated that option if he is over his injury issues, the same injury issues that make me want Jones to be replaced since he is injured all the time.
He's a decent passer of the ball and has quality. But he's what all our players should be as absolute minimum.
He's not a leader at all. This shows you how far we have fallen.
I can't believe man city and arsenal were sniffing round him.
Done nothing for us this season. Hegazi seems to be getting a lot if stick for not being where Evans should be in a lot of matches. Quite a few result changing goals have come from his area of responsibility. Seems Mr ex Man Utd might not be a positive inflence at this club so the sooner he goes the better. He is nowhere near irreplaceable.
A good defender but someone who has been well below his previous standards.
He epitomises a modern day footballer at the moment. An horrendous attitude but will bugger off at the end of the season and walk in to another comfortable paid job elsewhere.
Jonny, is that you mate?You mean he looked good when the team had a competent coach and we a were relevant top team in the league? Yeah he was the very good alongside Vidic and Ferdinand, but why is that used like some kind of beating stick? Does it take away the fact that he played good against some of the best attackers in the world? I don't think so. Pique also played alongside Vidic and Ferdinand and he looked shaky every time. He put decent performances at WBA because he is a good player, that's why. Top teams have been linked with him because he is a good player not because of this or that. Him being bettered by McNair and Blacket who the feck are those two, and what have they done with their careers?
Because the moron LVG kept them and realized they are not good enough later than most people, it means something? Please use a better argument. We've seen plenty of Evans being a very good player to judge him by his performances for a manager who though Blacket is a better player.
Maybe, maybe not. Happens to remember a certain Gerard Pique who played alongside them also, never looked like Baresi that guy.
Some of his games were lucky not to have ended in defeat. Like the Liverpool game where we won 3-0 because of DDG. He also had a ban for spitting on someone for 6 matches. Whenever he played he looked clueless that season and that’s putting it mildly.
Yes they are better options. Tuanzebe is currently injured and played well whenever he played at Villa. And at 18, I’d rather play him than Evans who even West Brom fans are complaining about him
Just three comments as I’m on phone but you can see more such comments on their forum. Showing exactly what he is. A defender that’s not even good for West Brom levels and has done nothing all season
That’s the best argument you provided through the whole debate.Jonny, is that you mate?
Tuanzebe is 20 and whenever he played it was at RB or midfield, so no not s better option provided he has zero experience almost. I rate Axel and he could provide an option but a different kind.Some of his games were lucky not to have ended in defeat. Like the Liverpool game where we won 3-0 because of DDG. He also had a ban for spitting on someone for 6 matches. Whenever he played he looked clueless that season and that’s putting it mildly.
Yes they are better options. Tuanzebe is currently injured and played well whenever he played at Villa. And at 18, I’d rather play him than Evans who even West Brom fans are complaining about him
Just three comments as I’m on phone but you can see more such comments on their forum. Showing exactly what he is. A defender that’s not even good for West Brom levels and has done nothing all season
Its not a debate... Jonny Evans is not worth signing. You seem to think he is based on 'form' playing for a team that's about to be relegated and having had a couple of good games when Rio and Vidic still played for us, which is nearly half a decade ago.That’s the best argument you provided through the whole debate.
It's almost romantic. Why do we have such weakness for SAF era players?
Hey it’s a fecking forum and people express their opinion. I replied on your argument that he is from a relegated team, which was ridiculous.Its not a debate... Jonny Evans is not worth signing. You seem to think he is based on 'form' playing for a team that's about to be relegated and having had a couple of good games when Rio and Vidic still played for us, which is nearly half a decade ago.
Now if you don’t have anything sensible to say, can you please feck off? You are tiresome.@Kostov do you think we should try and Evans and Rondon as a pair. Rondon scored a goal yesterday and had a bit of form 6 years ago. They could be a dynamic duo we need to really make a challenge for the title next season.
It's almost romantic. Why do we have such weakness for SAF era players?
Yea I know but in fairness how many times has a player from the relegated team made the premier league team of the season? If you can name another one I'll change my opinion.Roy keane was bought from a relegated team btw
(Not saying we should buy Evans just pointing out the fact)
Yea I know but in fairness how many times has a player from the relegated team made the premier league team of the season? If you can name another one I'll change my opinion.