Joey Barton | Podcaster and Domestic Abuser

antk said:
People hate Barton because he hates people (and tries to profit off it). It's not a circle. If he could stop hating, harassing, harming people, maybe nobody would fantasize about harming him.

Not tolerating intolerance is not intolerance, and it's worrisome it has to be reiterated in 2024.
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Your argument is a contradiction, requires doublethink to accept and will still be false in the year 20240. I wonder what levels of enlightenment will make of current western liberal agenda in 2100? I suspect it won’t be judged well.

You’re either tolerant or you’re not. We aren’t tolerant. Good reasons for being so in a lot of cases. So what are you left with? “Good” or “bad” intolerance.

If your “good” intolerance starts reaching levels where hating, cancelling people’s opinions, arresting them for posting online. Your media / films / adverts are riddled with propaganda, your rewriting books, and ridiculously restricting words on commentary etc then I’m not sure your “good” intentions are quite working out.

Just look on here: people questioning Barton’s dna, multiple people wishing violence, the hate is visceral, wanting him silenced, it’s a lot easier to do all that than challenge the arguments(probably easy in most cases). And you call that tolerance? Same old hate different package.
 
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antk said:
People hate Barton because he hates people (and tries to profit off it). It's not a circle. If he could stop hating, harassing, harming people, maybe nobody would fantasize about harming him.

Not tolerating intolerance is not intolerance, and it's worrisome it has to be reiterated in 2024.
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Very well said. People need to learn about the paradox of tolerance.
 
Dean60 said:
Your argument is a contradiction, requires doublethink to accept and will still be false in the year 20240. I wonder what levels of enlightenment will make of current western liberal agenda in 2100? I suspect it won’t be judged well.

You’re either tolerant or you’re not. We aren’t tolerant. Good reasons for being so in a lot of cases. So what are you left with? “Good” or “bad” intolerance.

If your “good” intolerance starts reaching levels where hating, cancelling people’s opinions, arresting them for posting online. Your media / films / adverts are riddled with propaganda, your rewriting books, and ridiculously restricting words on commentary etc then I’m not sure your “good” intentions are quite working out.

Just look on here: people questioning Barton’s dna, multiple people wishing violence, the hate is visceral, wanting him silenced, it’s a lot easier to do all that than challenge the arguments(probably easy in most cases). And you call that tolerance? Same old hate different package.
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What arguments is barton making and, as a follow up, why do you see them as difficult to challenge?
 
Dean60 said:
Your argument is a contradiction, requires doublethink to accept and will still be false in the year 20240. I wonder what levels of enlightenment will make of current western liberal agenda in 2100? I suspect it won’t be judged well.

You’re either tolerant or you’re not. We aren’t tolerant. Good reasons for being so in a lot of cases. So what are you left with? “Good” or “bad” intolerance.

If your “good” intolerance starts reaching levels where hating, cancelling people’s opinions, arresting them for posting online. Your media / films / adverts are riddled with propaganda, your rewriting books, and ridiculously restricting words on commentary etc then I’m not sure your “good” intentions are quite working out.

Just look on here: people questioning Barton’s dna, multiple people wishing violence, the hate is visceral, wanting him silenced, it’s a lot easier to do all that than challenge the arguments(probably easy in most cases). And you call that tolerance? Same old hate different package.
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Indeed, I really hate people who are intolerant of intolerance.
 
Dean60 said:
Your argument is a contradiction, requires doublethink to accept and will still be false in the year 20240. I wonder what levels of enlightenment will make of current western liberal agenda in 2100? I suspect it won’t be judged well.

You’re either tolerant or you’re not. We aren’t tolerant. Good reasons for being so in a lot of cases. So what are you left with? “Good” or “bad” intolerance.

If your “good” intolerance starts reaching levels where hating, cancelling people’s opinions, arresting them for posting online. Your media / films / adverts are riddled with propaganda, your rewriting books, and ridiculously restricting words on commentary etc then I’m not sure your “good” intentions are quite working out.

Just look on here: people questioning Barton’s dna, multiple people wishing violence, the hate is visceral, wanting him silenced, it’s a lot easier to do all that than challenge the arguments(probably easy in most cases). And you call that tolerance? Same old hate different package.
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Wanting someone who is being a shitty human to stfu is a good thing. To have a good society, you need to not tolerate people spouting hate. "Let's decapitate a nazi/misogynist/racist" etc I don't really think classes as hate speech in the same way as what Barton is doing.
 
Dean60 said:
Your argument is a contradiction, requires doublethink to accept and will still be false in the year 20240. I wonder what levels of enlightenment will make of current western liberal agenda in 2100? I suspect it won’t be judged well.

You’re either tolerant or you’re not. We aren’t tolerant. Good reasons for being so in a lot of cases. So what are you left with? “Good” or “bad” intolerance.

If your “good” intolerance starts reaching levels where hating, cancelling people’s opinions, arresting them for posting online. Your media / films / adverts are riddled with propaganda, your rewriting books, and ridiculously restricting words on commentary etc then I’m not sure your “good” intentions are quite working out.

Just look on here: people questioning Barton’s dna, multiple people wishing violence, the hate is visceral, wanting him silenced, it’s a lot easier to do all that than challenge the arguments(probably easy in most cases). And you call that tolerance? Same old hate different package.
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"The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them."
 
Welsh Wonder said:
"The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them."
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That just sounds like woke culture gone mad.

You can't even put out a cigar in another person's eye without the liberal elite criticising you these days.
 
You guys are just bitter that Barton cost united a league title.
 
Dean60 said:
Your argument is a contradiction, requires doublethink to accept and will still be false in the year 20240. I wonder what levels of enlightenment will make of current western liberal agenda in 2100? I suspect it won’t be judged well.

You’re either tolerant or you’re not. We aren’t tolerant. Good reasons for being so in a lot of cases. So what are you left with? “Good” or “bad” intolerance.

If your “good” intolerance starts reaching levels where hating, cancelling people’s opinions, arresting them for posting online. Your media / films / adverts are riddled with propaganda, your rewriting books, and ridiculously restricting words on commentary etc then I’m not sure your “good” intentions are quite working out.

Just look on here: people questioning Barton’s dna, multiple people wishing violence, the hate is visceral, wanting him silenced, it’s a lot easier to do all that than challenge the arguments(probably easy in most cases). And you call that tolerance? Same old hate different package.
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Do you think free speech should be absolute and anyone can say absolutely anything?
 
The amount is far too low, but it's otherwise so satisfying seeing clowns like him with his tail between his legs. I'm sure he utterly hated having to post that and feels terribly humiliated. So, so satisfying.
 
cafecillos said:
The amount is far too low, but it's otherwise so satisfying seeing clowns like him with his tail between his legs. I'm sure he utterly hated having to post that and feels terribly humiliated. So, so satisfying.
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"I've been done by the wokerati, donate to my Shitecnutery to help me out"
 
Is there a single human being who would piss on him if he was on fire? That's the core of his resentment I think. His own family probably despise him.
 
The sun is shining and joey Barton is being publicly humbled and humiliated. Today's a good day.
 
Blood Mage said:
Is there a single human being who would piss on him if he was on fire? That's the core of his resentment I think. His own family probably despise him.
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I would love to piss on him - but hopefully I had digested a bit of gasoline first
 
Is Jeremy Vine that bike wanker who screams like Ned Flanders when cars overtake him at 10mph and then demands that they be arrested?
 
Blood Mage said:
Is there a single human being who would piss on him if he was on fire? That's the core of his resentment I think. His own family probably despise him.
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Nah is family are all the same.

Remember, he was gutted his brother lost years of his life for a little scuffle where the other bloke died.
 
cafecillos said:
The amount is far too low, but it's otherwise so satisfying seeing clowns like him with his tail between his legs. I'm sure he utterly hated having to post that and feels terribly humiliated. So, so satisfying.
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Yeah it seems a piddling sum given the money Barton must have.

Blood Mage said:
Is there a single human being who would piss on him if he was on fire? That's the core of his resentment I think. His own family probably despise him.
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He has an absolute feckload of followers and apologists going by the comments on his posts
 
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