That's what I’m thinking too. In a perfect world we’d find a ruthless finisher in the mold Haaland or Ruud, but there’s a dearth of such players at the moment. Felix could do a job for us up top, but a different kind of job from what we really need. If Sesko or sone unknown is that guy, bring him in, but if not we might want to take a look at Felix. But no bank breaking.
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That's what I’m thinking too. In a perfect world we’d find a ruthless finisher in the mold Haaland or Ruud, but there’s a dearth of such players at the moment. Felix could do a job for us up top, but a different kind of job from what we really need. If Sesko or sone unknown is that guy, bring him in, but if not we might want to take a look at Felix. But no bank breaking.
Is he good with Excel though?
What was he doing on first Spurs goal? Seems to be doing a warm up exercise in the background, gets beaten to the ball by Skipp who he doesn't bother to chase down. Not scoring is one thing but do your defensive work...I feel for Potter a bit, his team doesn't seem to care.
He’s an interesting player but I think the reaction may be due to the initial drooling by droves of caftards. My issue with Felix is that while he’s got wualigies I really like (close control, dribbling, first touch etc) he never strikes me as having that lethal instinct in the final third albeit the same size is small (as are his stats to be fair). Seems like a player who needs to be compensate for by more clinical players who don’t necessarily have his natural gifts. And that isn’t easy.
Which is why I want fussed with missing by out.
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A player on loan for 6 months on a crazy salary...no, I don't imagine he does care much about Chelsea.
Did he?
I agree with this assessment. He seems to be the only player capable of producing any sort of attacking flow in Chelsea right now. Not supported enough.
I think that’s kind of the point here. If he’s “the best and most effective attacker by a country mile” which has subsequent result of 2 goals in 10 games for Chelsea, then the question is how effective is he? Yes it’s not all down to him, but like I mentioned in another thread he seems a player who has moments of brilliance which lead to absolutely nothing.
Yes, but one big difference is Felix takes a lot of speculative shots which Martial rarely does and looks for the pass more.
He is smooth on the ball, but I feel like that leads to him getting overrated. In this social media era, people who get g/a but have a non flashy game are looked down upon( case in point: Bruno).What use is ability if there is no end product?
On the other hand, I don’t even know what Havertz is supposed to be. He might genuinely be the world’s first false footballer.
who was the last attacker that came to Chelsea and hit the ground running? Costa?
I'd say the opposite. Top line stats conned 4 different teams into spending obscene money on Lukaku, one of them twice.
I also have had many excruciating exchanges with people (including Chelsea fans) who thought Hazard was inconsistent because he wasn't stat padding.
Wonder where he’ll be playing next season
Doomed loan signing really. He's a classy operator but dropping him on Potter, who has no idea how to integrate any of these players into a team and in a league he's never played in, isn't fair on him. You would suggest that Ten Hag would get a lot more out of him if he had of joined us, again though, this short term loan probably isn't enough to get him firing.
I think he's a good player but he's definitely in the wrong team for him to thrive. He'd be much better as a false 9 in a Firmino-type role and a team that doesn't have other players who try to occupy similar spaces as him.
I'm just going by the official numbers. But even if they've paid, say, 100M euro, it's still 60M too much. Felix is just not the type of player you spend big money for and make your main man. He is a slightly above average player overall, but not really outstanding in anything. This is compounded by his inconsistency. So, you have a player who is good but not really exceptional at anything, without a clearly defined role, without a demanding presence, and is also inconsistent. I'm sure his time under Simeone has had an effect on his development, but it's just can't be all that. Compare this to someone like Bruno Fernandes. Outstanding creativity, work rate, and presence on the pitch. Even a bad Bruno game involves a lot of running and trying.
Felix is a good player to give a punt for 40-50M euro and see what comes out of it. We don't have the money to experiment however, so hard pass from me. And he will never be available for that price anyway.
Bruno matured significantly and joined us at the age of 25. Felix is 23. He still has time on his side to develop under the right manager. Is he the one for us? IMO only if we let Sancho go.
Did not have a great game vs Spurs tbf, but hard to just pick out one game where the whole team did not play well and single him out.
Chelsea were poor across the park, woeful defending on the second goal, yes it was probably a foul by Dier but do your due diligence as a defender. Kane at the far post totally unmarked, bonkers stuff really.
Chelsea were poor across the park, woeful defending on the second goal, yes it was probably a foul by Dier but do your due diligence as a defender. Kane at the far post totally unmarked, bonkers stuff really.
chelsea or atletico.
Well, for me the list of players who can single-handedly carry a totally dysfunctional and unstructured attack is basically just Mbappe and Messi - so yes he's not on that level.
I think you bring up a good point - but I also don't think he's been put in position to succeed. The man needs other players to run in behind to create space for him - yet he's playing alongside the likes of Ziyech, Havertz, and Mount, all of whom just want to clog up the middle.
Yeah I’m not sure they’ll be much competition for him if Atletico demand £100m +
That said can see him staying with Simone leaving.
Atletico
I suspect that will be the case. Especially with Simone leaving.
He can't do that, he's lacks everything that made Firmino good in that role. Firmino had a combination of good hold up play, work rate, exquisite link-up with his partners (Mane/Salah) and to top it off, a surprisingly good statistical output in goals and assists (he has 132 GAs in 247 EPL apps, which is better than 1 in 2).
Felix has good general technical ability, like touch, shoot and dribble and he's a flair player, but that's about it. He prefers running at players than being back to goal. His hold up play and work rate don't match anything Firmino has shown. And he has never had a statistical output remotely close to that of Firmino. He can play a free #10 or SS striker role, like how Bruno Fernandes has played for us in the past or Dybala did for Juve, or Griezman did for Atleti. But he's not a false 9. Not yet anyway.
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How do you become the most effective attacker in a team that doesn't score goals? Just wondering.
I'll have you know that he absolutely ran away with our goal of the month award in February
Forgot about that. It was a very effective goal, one touch, inside of the foot. He has scored 100% of your goal since that Liverpool match, so I guess you are right, by a country mile. I don't think you can really talk about having any effective attackers when your team scores a goal a month though.
He looked too lightweight for the PL yesterday though, and got bullied physically a lot.
PL ain’t La Liga, he won’t get the decisions he gets here that he does over there. He won’t get the time on the ball. It’s a culture shock for sure
Hah very valid point - "effective" is probably not a word that should be used in reference to anything going on at Chelsea at the moment!
Potter has thrown out basically all winger combinations possible given the gazillion attackers you have. Nothing seems to work so I'm not sure why you're putting the blame on Sterling and Ziyech.
Watched most of the Spurs game, and was struck by how JF is involved pretty much all over the pitch. Drops low to fetch it, drifts out to the flanks to create overloads. Which is probably useful to Chelsea's ability to keep the ball most of the time, but I'm not sure it's really optimal use of him. First half at least, it was pretty much all Sterling as far as scoring chance creation was concerned.
Think he’s class, he’s not thriving in a tumescent clueless team, not a surprise.
Reminded me a little of Bruno, actually. Maybe not with quite the same range of passing, but still.
Ziyech is barely a winger - he only cuts inside and isn't fast enough to run past anyone, so he's worthless. Look at our passmap from yesterday:
Sterling is obviously better and makes more sense stylistically; I just don't think he's that good frankly (and for whatever reason he never seems to run in behind anymore). I just don't understand why we bought all these young players who make sense synergistically on paper yet are persisting with older players who don't fit as well - especially when one of Potter's main selling points is that he's supposedly sooooo good at developing youth.
A rather interesting stat I learned from the Athletic article the other week was that the Premier League has the fourth highest pressing stats out of the "top five" leagues in terms of league-wide pressing intensity across the pitch. Germany, weirdly enough wasn't no.1; Spain was.
So, he's walking in from the league with the higest box-to-box pressing intensity (La Liga), to the fourth highest (PL).
Won't dispute that, but you also have to consider that the tempo is higher in the PL, and so is the physicality. Which means less time on the ball.
Tempo is higher, yes.
Physicality is higher, yes.
Less time on the ball in the PL? Not according to the stats.
PL average is 11.67 passes per defensive action. (PPDA)
La Liga average is 9.99 PPDA.
Atletico Madrid, Osasuna, Athletic Bilbao, Sociedad, Barcelona, Sevilla, Getafe, Rayo Vallecano, are just some amongst the sides that comfortably are lower than 10 PPDA.
Well, I don't think PPDA is necessarily a very good measure of that. There are many ways to press, not all of them equally centred on quickly challenging the player in possession.
Chelsea have been hit and miss but his class stands out whenever they play. Got a touch like gold.
If Osimhen isnt doable then I'd be more than happy with him as the backup. He's not as good as Kane but is significantly younger and can give us 5+ strong years.
If Osimhen isnt doable then I'd be more than happy with him as the backup. He's not as good as Kane but is significantly younger and can give us 5+ strong years.
His touch and passing are amazing, and I’m sure he’d score more goals if he was under a good coach in a settled attacking side. He’d massively improve you in possession, even with your current midfield. Seems not to get injured that often, too (though haven’t really checked that).
Hype job, another Bobby Firmino.