Jesus Red card?

Ahh, defending the utterly ridiculous rules of football! Nothing incident.

I'm not defending anything. Just saying that by the current laws of the game, you don't actually have to hurt a player to get sent off, when lashing out in anger. We've seen this many times.

I'm not up in arms about Jesus not being sent off for this. Actually, I think the tackle on Bruno was way worse. But I do think you probably have to have a very strict approach to these kinds of things. Otherwise it becomes very challenging to find the right line, and it will change too much from game to game and ref to ref.
 
I am pretty sure someone else should have been sent off too for a foul on Bruno. I am guessing it was Saliba as it looks like he was the only one booked for them first half but I can't really remember, studs right into the shin whoever it was.
 
What minute was that in? Can’t believe that was missed, also can’t believe Martinez didn’t clatter him in the next tackle, well worth a booking to leave one in on him

In fairness, Martinez had utterly clattered him about 40seconds in hadn't he?
 
I am pretty sure someone else should have been sent off too for a foul on Bruno. I am guessing it was Saliba as it looks like he was the only one booked for them first half but I can't really remember, studs right into the shin whoever it was.

Think it was studs into the calf, which is still painful, but nowhere near the high danger risk at the front.
 
Unfortunately it is they way football has gone. It is such a surprise when somebody doesn't roll around it becomes admirable.

Most players do it. It's incredible, and it doesn't make sense. It's not as if the human body has undergone some radical biological alteration over a thirty year period in which renders the average male with a far smaller pain threshold than in the past. You see it all the time. Trailing arm catches someone in the face? They're down for minutes! If you were in a real altercation and hit someone thrice as hard you couldn't keep them down for more than a few moments, but in football, contact is crippling. You even see players stay down from minimal contact even if their team is disadvantaged by it.
 
Most players do it. It's incredible, and it doesn't make sense. It's not as if the human body has undergone some radical biological alteration over a thirty year period in which renders the average male with a far smaller pain threshold than in the past. You see it all the time. Trailing arm catches someone in the face? They're down for minutes! If you were in a real altercation and hit someone thrice as hard you couldn't keep them down for more than a few moments, but in football, contact is crippling. You even see players stay down from minimal contact even if their team is disadvantaged by it.


Reminds me of DDG dropping down to foetal position and conceeding last season.

vs Arsenal Rashford took absolute ages to get up and as soon as he got up he was passed the ball and started sprinting like nothing happened. Football players are such cry babies nowadays.
 
Reminds me of DDG dropping down to foetal position and conceeding last season.

vs Arsenal Rashford took absolute ages to get up and as soon as he got up he was passed the ball and started sprinting like nothing happened. Football players are such cry babies nowadays.
That's because referees do nothing for being honest and stood up to challenges. If player act like getting injured they tend to look at it.
 
He's fortunate he kicked a feckin hardman in Martinez. Majority of other players would have gone down and likely would have reviewed.
I scanned this and read "have to be revived".... works either way
 
Arsenal turn into a nasty team and start lashing out when they're well beaten. But somehow they have this veneer of playing jogo bonito since the times of Wenger despite Vieira, Keown, Adams, etc being well versed in the dark arts. Didn't Patrick V have the highest number of red cards in the PL at the time?
 
You could make the case Martinez arm made contact with Jesus head and Jesus was falling back

The game itself is embarrassing with whats deemed 'violent'. If Martinez did fall to the ground clutching his leg Jesus could have got sent off, then again if Jesus went down clutching his head after Martinez backed into him Martinez could have got sent off.

if VAR is going to stsrt doing this, then players will be rewarded for hitting the deck every time there is some kind of contact off the ball and off the play
 
At risk of sounding like a current 'everything is against us' Arsenal fan. I feel like if that was Ronaldo it would be absolutely everywhere.
 
You could make the case Martinez arm made contact with Jesus head and Jesus was falling back

The game itself is embarrassing with whats deemed 'violent'. If Martinez did fall to the ground clutching his leg Jesus could have got sent off, then again if Jesus went down clutching his head after Martinez backed into him Martinez could have got sent off.

if VAR is going to stsrt doing this, then players will be rewarded for hitting the deck every time there is some kind of contact off the ball and off the play
You don’t think there’s a difference between walking in to someone with your arm (maybe even accidentally) slightly touching their head and deliberately kicking someone in frustration?
 
You could make the case Martinez arm made contact with Jesus head and Jesus was falling back

The game itself is embarrassing with whats deemed 'violent'. If Martinez did fall to the ground clutching his leg Jesus could have got sent off, then again if Jesus went down clutching his head after Martinez backed into him Martinez could have got sent off.

if VAR is going to stsrt doing this, then players will be rewarded for hitting the deck every time there is some kind of contact off the ball and off the play
Very weird comparison. :lol:
 
In The Netherlands the strength of an elbow, kick, punch whatever is now somehow factored into the equation. That's for instance, why Antony wasn't send of last year for punching Malacia or why Edson Alvarez wasn't send of for elbowing someone in the face during the JC schaal match. Or Alvarez wasn't send of for punching someone in a lost duel last year or why Alvarez wasn't send of for kicking someone with no ball anywhere in the vicinity last season or why Alvarez wasn't....Wait I'm sensing a trend.

Point is, is the severity of the blow not a general (if fecking ridiculous) rule change?