Would be incredibly disappointed if he stays. Selling him + James(30m + 10-15m) would give us good funds to sign a proper midfielder.
Jesse Lingard
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westham just paid 30M each for that crock Zouma and an unknown from Russia.
His brand is probably better off at WHU
Surprised teams like Leicester hasn’t had a look at him besides West Ham. Even Norwich could do with him though i doubt he wants to move there
Agree. Lot of potential to sell those in East London.
or follow his eSports team..
i would think after his loan spell he would be able to fetch pretty much similar to james. Id say the lesser output of james should be equaled by the offset of lingard on higher wages. Be silly for united to keep him though, at best he would be 3rd choice for any position, and that doesnt even include just changing formations to get a better player in regardless
WhoopsAll reports suggest we've been getting enquiries but Lingard isn't keen on going.
Thought he wants to move to WH but Ole is blocking the path?
That's disappointing if true. He needs to resurrect his career and waiting for top team is complete waste of time. If he was good enough for a top team, he wouldn't need to move
Whoever is obstructing this move, whether it's Ole or Lingard himself, it feels like a really silly decision. He revived a lacklustre career in his loan spell there and it seemed like the perfect solution for everyone that we could get a decent fee for a player we were barely using and Lingard could go back to getting regular starts, contributing something of note and having his name mentioned in England conversations again. Think it's delusional if anyone thinks he's going to do the kind of job for us that he did at West Ham, it's a just a different level/style of play.
Hoping for a James style deal that would be a happy outcome for everyone, and think we can afford to offload him with all the other attacking options we have available now.
Hoping for a James style deal that would be a happy outcome for everyone, and think we can afford to offload him with all the other attacking options we have available now.
In his defense, he is very versatile and that helps him claw together a career.
Sounds more like Lingard doesn't want to leave to the clubs that have inquired but also United aren't looking like offering him a new contract so he's got one year left then will have to go where there's an offer anyway, he should go now and play each week. I doubt he's trying to get a big wage and signing on fee that some like to roll out every time. Probably have to drop down in wages in 2022 at a new club when a free agent.
He doesn't care about playing football for us, he's just happy to be apart of this club.
He would rather sit on the bench or in the stands for us then play regular football for another club.
He would rather sit on the bench or in the stands for us then play regular football for another club.
Yeah, I've never had a major issue with him because his attitude is generally good and he seems happy to play wherever we put him, it's just he's struggled with us for a few years now after a promising start and I can't see him evolving into a player we're regularly starting or bringing on to change a game. It felt like he had a new lease of life at West Ham and so I thought it would be inevitable he'd go there (or a similar club) where he could play a useful role and make the most of his remaining career.
Whilst I admire a desire to stay and fight for his place, I think with the plethora of attacking options we have available it seems incredibly unlikely he's going to force his way into the team and this is where the club should potentially be more ruthless in pushing for a sale, rather than letting him pad the squad out along with a significant number of others.
No club wants him because he has no resale value. Simple as that.
If we needed one of Jesse or James to go to balance the books, than I'm glad it's going to be James.
Jesse is a good backup and bench player to have.
Jesse is a good backup and bench player to have.
Off to Roma or Spurs or some club of that level on a free next year probably.
A smaller club is th better word.
In all, you are right. He's happy as long as he's at United with his mates.
Maybe he does not and that's reason enough that we should take 15 million and run, or maybe it's the case that lingard himself is looking for a big pay day next year when he is out of contract
We are in a tricky situation in terms of what we demand for Jesse. When players like Harry Wilson and Jack Harrison move for around the £12m mark, Adam Armstrong for £15m and Joe Willock for £26m. I don't think it is unrealistic to put a price tag of £25m on Jesse Lingard, in a hope a bidding club begin negotiations with offers in the £15-20m mark.
Jesse really shouldn't be getting any minutes this season.
Jesse really shouldn't be getting any minutes this season.
None of those players are in the last year of their contract though, or as old, or on as bigger contract, or so not needed by their club as Jesse is.
Ultimately we held zero cards.
This last year of contract thing is nonsense. If he stays we offer him a new one and he accepts it. This isn’t like mbappe - he hasn’t refused to sign a new deal so it’s irrelevant. He’s 28, a current England international and was arguably the best player in the PL the last 6 months of the season at West Ham. They need to pay up. 25m is more than reasonable in a market where ramsdale is going for 20m!
Yep, and that could probably end up lesser than what he is currently earning at United. I am starting to get the feeling that everyone, from Jesse to the club and the fans are overestimating his worth.
If Dan James is 30 million then Jesse is closer to 50. No wonder we can’t shift him.
Though, he is in his last year, isn't he?
Though, he is in his last year, isn't he?
Contrary to popular belief, they're nowhere near the same age.
We could easily get another £25m+ for Donny too. There's just no point keeping him, he's not a good fit and Ole doesn't like him.
If we had moved quicker we could be getting £70m+ from these 3 and having enough money for a £35m Neves in DM and another £40m for a box-to-box CM (Camavinga, Kessie, Bissouma take your pick). Then we wouldn't even need to be keeping static Matic here, we could loan him out to an Italian club.
We just didn't move our players fast enough...
I don't think him having a year left should stop us asking for a fee that can be negotiated down. If United say their price is £15-18m offers are going to come in much lower. But I agree that Jesse's wages are an issue. However Chelsea sold Zappacosta who is a similar age, with a year left on his deal and they got £8m. Will Hughes (Yes he is a couple of years younger) with a year left on his deal has gone to Palace for £6m up to £10m in add ons.
I don't think it is unrealistic to get £15-20m for Jesse.
He’s 28 isn’t he? Very good age. And seeing what he did at West Ham, it would be great buy for anyone outside top 6.Contrary to popular belief, they're nowhere near the same age.
Unless he is not willing to move, cant think of a reason why other clubs are not interested. He proved last season that he could be very good for mid-table teams. Play on left wing or AM he will be good. When he is on form he really scores good goals and contributes a lot to the team. I think he is good for teams like Arsenal who is crying out for goals.
Wages may be another issue.
My guess is we have few clubs interested in him but offer is not good and we are waiting till the deadline day to see if it improves. Otherwise makes no sense to keep him another year. I dont think he will make bench for most matches when we have everyone fit.
Wages may be another issue.
My guess is we have few clubs interested in him but offer is not good and we are waiting till the deadline day to see if it improves. Otherwise makes no sense to keep him another year. I dont think he will make bench for most matches when we have everyone fit.
Only one is a young player on the up on a long term and very affordable contract so we hold all the cards. It is not just posters on the Caf who feel our coaching is not the best and we don't develop players, a lot of people out there will be convinced that with a different coach the weaknesses in Dan's game can be fixed and if you can do that added to his natural speed and work rate then you will have a really good PL player and in hindsight 30M could look like amazing business. I am sure coaches back themselves just like players do and will believe they are the ones who can spin straw into gold.
Jesse is closing in on 29, highly paid and available on a free in 6 months. He is also not going to get any better than he is now and so realistically has a lower transfer value and we would be doing well to get 20 million I think. it all seems to be moot anyway as Jesse has vowed to "fight for his place" despite anyone with half a brain being able to tell that his place is going to be unused sub playing practical jokes in the dressing room and waving goodbye to his World Cup prospects when he could have played for a top half PL club every week and competed in the Europa and cemented a spot in the England squad.
Fecking Westham wont do us a solid and take him for £20m, we shouldnt loan anyone to them in the future.
If they can pay 30M for Zouma, they should at least be able to afford 20M for Lingard.
What you mean his game can be fixed? He’s not suddenly going to get better in tight spaces. And don’t make me laugh about the coaching. Jesus.. We’re fecking Man United, I’m pretty sure our coaching is top class. Unless you and whoever else it is on the caf whom thinks all our achievements are down to individual quality?
It's not really in our best interests to offer him a contract though... Its wasted wages for us.
Fair, £20m is certainly the top end... £15m would be fair, though to be honest I'd accept £10m for him this late in the window.
Tbh, a move to West Ham would be a brilliant deal for all parts going by how he played there last season. Especially if it had happened at the start of the transfer window. He's not going to play as often here as he would at West Ham. West Ham would have player that works well in their system, and we would have more money to invest in a midfielder.
Lingard will stay and will play quite a few matches. His contract will be extended by another 4 years this season.
Don't cry people, deal with it.
Don't cry people, deal with it.
Anyone thinks this will kick off tomorrow morning again? West Ham bidding for Jesse that is. Could be a game of chess between United and them right now
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