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This 100 times. Poor management from the squad and Ole here.
Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
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This 100 times. Poor management from the squad and Ole here.
Which is why I didn't tell you what Pogba wanted to do and only mentioned the same rumours you mentioned which are that United received offers and rejected them.
All part of his plan. He wants the signing on fee elsewhere and that was always his intention.
Can't argue with this, even in his limited chances he has impressed this season. Will be a fantastic coup for whoever is able to snap him up, West Ham or possibly Newcastle if they give him an important enough role in the project going forward, but West Ham is the more likely I would feel.
mismanaged
Sell him for 10/15m last Summer or give him a chance this season
Given his workrate/running and discipline he should have replaced Dan James who was useful in the tougher games... Lingard had a bit more of the quality James lacked
Think he's obviously annoyed and done now based on that tweet
what happened to the Ole feel good factor?
Sell him for 10/15m last Summer or give him a chance this season
Given his workrate/running and discipline he should have replaced Dan James who was useful in the tougher games... Lingard had a bit more of the quality James lacked
Think he's obviously annoyed and done now based on that tweet
what happened to the Ole feel good factor?
I can only agree. At his age specially, it'd be stupid to accept less wages
What noodles said basically.
Oh yes, this too. The age of the squad is fecking dreadful. ‘He gives youngsters chances’, no he plays Mason Greenwood.
It’s time people admitted they were duped for 3 years, it’s the emperors new clothes. The man has done nothing tangible. ‘squad is happier’, crap certainly can’t fly anymore.
He’s made an utter mess of a great opportunity.
We hit the relative jackpot with him smashing it at West Ham, and still found a way to mess it up. Another clusterfeck from Ed and Ole telling us to trust the process
Lingard, Pogba, VDB will all go and we'll see them do well at other clubs and wonder what happened.
According to the media we have been trying to sell Dalot for months so we can bring 31 year old Trippier in. That despite we've got laird doing well at Swansea. The irony
He was never really good enough for Man Utd, he should have left on a free years ago, I won't lose any sleep.
I have no issue with him leaving, but the time to sell was during the summer. Even if it was for £10-15m, it's better than nothing and could be used towards buying a DM next summer. To tell him he's an important player and very much in the managers' plans, only to never bother using him, is very poor management and we deserve to lose him for nothing.
I don't think anybody will miss Lingard the player. The issue is just the whole mismanagement of the contracts and players. Pogba, Mata, Lingard, Donny, Jones, midfield etc. It's a mess.
If we had we'd be paying even bigger wages to someone who didn't want to be here and who nobody would pay to take off our hands.
Instead of Ole telling he was an important part of his non existent plans, he should have told him he should leave for his career as he was barely going to play, then we might have gotten sone money for him.
He's never struck me as the sharpest knife in the drawer but yeah he will have known he wasn't displacing Bruno/Rashford/Pogba/Sancho etc.
We don’t know any of the details, I’ll only blame the club here if we were turning down bids in excess of 15m when the player was up for going. If Lingard wanted to stay, what could we do?
This is the way football is now. If I am Lingard, Like Pogba, why would I leave if I can get an even bigger contract on a free, maybe a £5 million sign on bonus. I’d pretend I had a future at Man United also.
Unlike Jones, Pogba has value. The club knows it hence wht we offered him a 500k a week salary
You can't understand why we didn't sell a player that didn't want to be sold?
Should have sold him in the summer when we had the chance. Going off the media reports, Ole decided to keep him, like other players, without ever planning to use him unless his hand was forced. Giving him a new deal is pointless, he will never be good enough for the club. Don't understand what role the DoF plays here or Woodward. But handled poorly by the whole club in this case.
I understand why Jesse would be frustrated, if the manager promised you playing time making you turn down a transfer then not being played after having a very good loan spell, then it's fine. But that Instagram post is awful. Ole needs to get a hold of him and have a word. After all the backing from the club, that post takes the piss. Wish Ole was more ruthless and makes an example, but we all know nothing will happen.
I understand why Jesse would be frustrated, if the manager promised you playing time making you turn down a transfer then not being played after having a very good loan spell, then it's fine. But that Instagram post is awful. Ole needs to get a hold of him and have a word. After all the backing from the club, that post takes the piss. Wish Ole was more ruthless and makes an example, but we all know nothing will happen.
Well Lingard certainly shouldn't have been based on his performances for United over the last few years.
Was that really the case though? Bizarrely condescending post when quite evidently I would understand that if it were the case (and frankly I didn’t follow it closely so if it was the case, fine).
But he can't be sold against his will and most reports indicated he wanted to stay at United and didn't want to return to West Ham.
What annoys me on this is the club just have no control/seem so weak on our stance. Lingard is a squad player, he has never been good enough but Ole wanted to keep him around, why because he likes him? Or are we so uncommercial we didn’t see this happening?
Now the messaging is that Lingard is choosing to move, that United are ‘losing’ a player…we’re so sentimentally crippled it’s awful to see.
Lingard posting that just shows how little this stuff means to him and, probably, that’s he feels like Ole has mislead him on game time. It’s time this club went through some meaningful structural changes, Ole is an issue but what’s above is simply out of control.
Whatever about him leaving but he should definitely have been used more this season while he is clearly in the form of his career.
We should've cashed in during the summer. It's looking increasingly like the club blocked the move with no plan in place to use him.
The same is probably true of a few other players too.
The same is probably true of a few other players too.
But was it made clear to him that he was going to play as little as he has?
If he was bluntly told "there's no future for you here, you'll barely play for us this season, you should leave" but decided to run down his contract then fair enough, there's not much you can do. It seems we weren't that firm though, despite obviously not having a particular need for him.
Keeping him last summer was the latest example of decisions that anyone can tell are wrong apart from the supposed experts running the club
Boggles the mind really. But then we're quite wank at selling players. Most of the time. We just don't seem to know how to cash out at maximal value.
No, he shouldn't have got any more minutes. His time was up years ago and he should not have been here to even be considered as an option. Cluelessness has meant he is still here.
I can't see anyone paying close to what we did for him in the current climate. He has feck all value.
I doubt he was made to understand clearly that he wouldn't play.
There are other alternative paths that we could have taken over the past 2 years that don't lead to him walking at the end of this season having barely featured while we pay all of his wages.
This situation reeks mismanagement and his selfie just further highlights it.
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he’s now posting pics of himself at West Ham ... literally could of got 25 mil for him in summer and used it towards getting a dm. Mad
Anyone remember when he was in the first team and then went on holiday and posted that video which caused issues suddenly he claimed mental health issues and Ole gave him tie to recover.
now though, he isn’t as good as some others but feels his Manchester learn8ng makes him better. Let him leave he is an ego
now though, he isn’t as good as some others but feels his Manchester learn8ng makes him better. Let him leave he is an ego
It will be interesting to see where he ends up. I personally think he could do a bit better than West Ham (Spurs/Arsenal level maybe?) but he might want to be at a smaller club where the pressure is off. The move should have happened in the summer, or a few years back really.
Are Spurs or Arsenal really a higher level then West Ham at the moment?
We don't know what was said in private but I'd take anything Solksjaer has said publicly with a pinch of salt as he was probably trying to preserve his value. Let's be honest here he was barely played for over a year then he was sent out on loan with a view to selling him. The club through various journalists were hawking him around for sale but the reports form the very start of the window were that he didn't fancy West Ham and wanted to stay.
Now did Solskjaer or the Club change their mind but it? It's possible but unlikely, it would have been been obvious even to Jesse that he wasn't getting much playing time with Rashford, Martial, Ronaldo, Cavani, Bruno, Pogba, Greenwood and Sancho occupying the same positions he does. So in my opinion Jesse has wanted to run his contract down from the start which is why he didn't leave and that's fair enough, that's his choice.