RedRonaldo
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Wonder how much could we get him from Spur. Maybe 15m? I hope.
Caftards will moan but in reality he didn't get enough chances to show his talent, always being played out of position and persecuted by classless fans when going through some heavy psychological stuff. Under a reasonable management he can step up like he did when he won us a cup by himself, we just need to use him in the right way while making sure that he's confident and joyful again. We already know that slating him doesn't help. Lay back, it's all been done before. And if you could only let it be you will see that he will be back, with the right amount of patience. Also, people forget that we'll need bodies out there with the grueling schedule and such a thin squad, I'd keep him. Out of the squad every game until he's purged. Enough of that rotten, fraudulent leech. Let him ruin another team and never come back.I hope Lingard stays and proves this forum and most others wrong.
There is a top player in him no doubt about it. Although he has only shown it for 1.5 seasons pretty much.
Plesse do explain. Its become an easy bandwagon to jump on hating the dude but last season aside I really don't think he deserves even half the crap he gets. He put in a lot of good shifts and scored and assisted critical goals. If you think he s not good enough maybe criticize the manager and management overall for not having the depth to put someone better on the pitch.
Replace Lingard? Woody hasn't managed to offload anyone but Sanchez. We're at 30 players. Greenwood and Williams don't need to be registered to play in any compeitition which means we currenty have a surplus of 3 players of our 25 man squad. Hell, it might be a reason we haven't bought more players.If we sell him, who replaces him in the squad? Nobody thinks he should start for us but we need more than 14/15 players through the season.
Plesse do explain. Its become an easy bandwagon to jump on hating the dude but last season aside I really don't think he deserves even half the crap he gets. He put in a lot of good shifts and scored and assisted critical goals. If you think he s not good enough maybe criticize the manager and management overall for not having the depth to put someone better on the pitch.
He most certainly isn’t. 75% of the players we’ve released are better than Lingard! Lingard is probably one of the worst players we are releasing which is what has been the major problem. Holding on to deadwood.Lingard on a good day is miles better than 75% of the rest we've released over the past few years (which probably shows shite our transfer activity has been but still). I wish him well but i would hate to see him strengthen a potential direct rival - if only in depth. Just like Zaha - he ll likely show up every time they play us and get punished.
I mean not that Alli is some world beater but that would be bonkersImagine selling Alli to raise funds for Lingard
Replace Lingard? Woody hasn't managed to offload anyone but Sanchez. We're at 30 players. Greenwood and Williams don't need to be registered to play in any compeitition which means we currenty have a surplus of 3 players of our 25 man squad. Hell, it might be a reason we haven't bought more players.
I hope Lingard stays and proves this forum and most others wrong.
There is a top player in him no doubt about it. Although he has only shown it for 1.5 seasons pretty much.
You have actually seen lingard play right? He cant pass, score, assist or any of the other basic functions required of an attacking player?I think Lingard should leave, just as Smalling did. They are too good as players to be denigrated by idiotic United fans.
Id be amazed if there is any interest from any club anywhere on earth.Personally this just reaks of an agent pushing shit into the paper to try and get a move for his player. I've no doubt Lingard is being offered to lots of clubs at the moment, Spurs being one. I'll be stunned if there is any genuine interest from Spurs.
Shut your whore mouth and just take him!
On a good day? The problem is we are paying 6 figures a week for a player whos "good day" is once every 3 years. He is as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest. If he was any LESS use we could stick him in the corner of the room and water him twice a week.Lingard on a good day is miles better than 75% of the rest we've released over the past few years (which probably shows shite our transfer activity has been but still). I wish him well but i would hate to see him strengthen a potential direct rival - if only in depth. Just like Zaha - he ll likely show up every time they play us and get punished.
He had a career year in 2017-18 and that coincidenced with a good showing at the World Cup. He's never come close to replicating that form and even before then didn't show enough that justified keeping him around (ignoring that he is an academy graduate). We can try and be empathetic and accept he's had some tough times but based solely on form, before and after his one good season, this guy is not good enough and he is stealing a living. If Spurs are stupid enough to offer £30m as was reported then you need to snap their arm off.
Do you want to sell him or not? Just go with itYou have actually seen lingard play right? He cant pass, score, assist or any of the other basic functions required of an attacking player?
You guys, seriously. If someone there wants to buy him and you are saying how bad he isUnbelievable that anyone can think Lingard is good enough to be at Utd. Never was and never will be.
If woodward manages to sell him to spurs for anything over £20m, it will be the best business he’s done since being Manchester Utd CEO.
Lets not forget Jose loved Fellani and Young too. With the greatest respect to your opinion, Lingard is shit. It's not even a debate.You guys, seriously. If someone there wants to buy him and you are saying how bad he is
What was his natural position?Caftards will moan but in reality he didn't get enough chances to show his talent, always being played out of position and persecuted by classless fans when going through some heavy psychological stuff. Under a reasonable management he can step up like he did when he won us a cup by himself, we just need to use him in the right way while making sure that he's confident and joyful again. We already know that slating him doesn't help. Lay back, it's all been done before. And if you could only let it be you will see that he will be back, with the right amount of patience. Also, people forget that we'll need bodies out there with the grueling schedule and such a thin squad, I'd keep him. Out of the squad every game until he's purged. Enough of that rotten, fraudulent leech. Let him ruin another team and never come back.
What was his natural position?
If Ed gets Lingard out for £30m, I might reconsider the nasty things I've been saying about him and erect a statue.
Caftards will moan but in reality he didn't get enough chances to show his talent, always being played out of position and persecuted by classless fans when going through some heavy psychological stuff. Under a reasonable management he can step up like he did when he won us a cup by himself, we just need to use him in the right way while making sure that he's confident and joyful again. We already know that slating him doesn't help. Lay back, it's all been done before. And if you could only let it be you will see that he will be back, with the right amount of patience. Also, people forget that we'll need bodies out there with the grueling schedule and such a thin squad, I'd keep him. Out of the squad every game until he's purged. Enough of that rotten, fraudulent leech. Let him ruin another team and never come back.
What was his natural position?
If he get's £30 mill for Jesse I might erect something myself......might erect something else if we get £30m for him...
Thankfully this is the Sun and therefore bullshit. I'd be done with our club if he got a new deal
Yes, because Ole has frozen him out of the team for over a year. If he get's one it's clear it's not the manager who makes these decisionsYou say that but didn't Mata get a new deal when everyone was expecting him to leave? Andreas Pereira? Phil Jones? Marcos Rojo? Sergio Romero?
Would you really be shocked if Lingard got a new deal?
Chances are his agent might be advising him to get another club while he still has contract with United .Another year like his last season he might even struggle to find a Club in premier league.In his last year of his contract with a huge payday coming up if he lets its run, going to be very difficult to sell him.
I know what his agents advice will be
Yes, because Ole has frozen him out of the team for over a year. If he get's one it's clear it's not the manager who makes these decisions
Rashord was fine for the first month or so when he came back. He wasn't playing well in terms of dribbling and scoring, but he was creating a hell of a lot with a level of passing and vision that he'd never really shown before that (or since unfortunately). Yes he obviously went to shit after that (especially once Shaw got injured) and he was terrible against Palace, but Lingard was at least equally as bad for the vast majority of last season. It was only the last month or so of the season that Lingard started looking a little bit better in the few opportunities that he got.Not his biggest fan but I would have him in the team over the post lockdown version of Rashford who has performed worse in that period of time than Lingard ever has and that is saying something, Rashford might as well have been playing for the opposition. He should have been dropped and Lingard given a run instead.
Inability to drop underperforming players is my number one gripe with Ole. Usually a manager will have 3 or 4 players he doesnt ever drop, Ole seems to have about 10.