No chance at everton. Sigurdsson.
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No chance at everton. Sigurdsson.
Nani would do some of that and then the next time he gets the ball, beat a man and put a goal on a plate with a great cross that a striker just has to turn towards goal because he already put the power on the ball in. Thats why Nani always had goals and assists.
Thats exactly what Lingard lacks.
One every 9 months?
At least with Nani, you had hope he could turn it on
It's just glaringly obvious we need someone better. No surprise to see people defending against the truth.
That's what you took from the post? No point discussing.
Played well today. Don't get how you can play no.10 without ever threatening the goal mind but his passing was very good and he won the ball a number of times.
That's because we have no one capable of displacing him in the squad.
This is a Smalling situation, until we get someone in then Lingard will play throughout the season unfortunately
I'd have expected Greenwood to come on for him a lot earlier if he really was that atrocious tbh. Weirdly it was Mata and then Greenwood at 88mins.
He's a limited player, and should have been a squad option if the main men got injured, not a starter for a team with CL ambitions.
We're in for a long season, and this fella's in for a lot of hate.
We're in for a long season, and this fella's in for a lot of hate.
I just think when you have an attacking player who offers you such little threat to the opposition it doesn't matter how much you rate his pressing or movement or link up play.
I just find it weird you get a handful of Utd fans who don't understand why Lingard gets so much stick.
I'm not even saying he was 1/10 OMG WORST EVER PERFORMANCE tonight because I don't think he was.
He was just his normal below average self.
I didn't see that, I think he was poor in his use of the ball for much of the game. Linked well for the goal, but not creative and authoritative enough the rest of the time. I've been a tentative fan of his inclusion in squads but he does not have enough quality to start for us regularly.
Anyone remember what Lingard does in a celebration? Yeah me neither. I would say i wish he would just disappear but he seems to do that anyway.
Our No.10 everyone...
Our No.10 everyone...
Hasn't scored in 2019 apparently. That is pretty damning for an attacking player.
Edit: couldn't see the tweet.
Edit: couldn't see the tweet.
We can but Watched Molde play (under Ole) and their AM didn't just press but he contributed to the attacking play and its not like Lingard doesn't try, he's just not that good. Seen it so many times, he runs with the ball then looses it at important stages, weight of pass is just crap on through balls, finishing is just shit, passes back when under pressure and can't cross.....sadly this type of performance isn't just a one off and only positive I always come up in many games under various managers is........he pressed well but useless otherwise.
There is no scapegoating here but calling it like it was and sadly I knew we were going to miss good chances vs wolves like last year and he'd be one of those who missed.
Same with McTominah i feel. he would not get into any other top six team. Maybe not even Wolves or Everton either.
Difference is Mctominah is young. Lingarrd is what , 26, 27 years old and is still not doing it. Or only does it in 1 in three or four matches.
I dont think we can rely on some players to do it 38 games a season and Lingarrd would be top of that list of said players.
Would not be in the 18 of any of of the other top five when everyone is fit, yet he's regularly in the starting 11 of Man United. It's absurd really.
4 goals and 2 assists over a 12 month aggregated period is fecking shocking.
Talk in the summer was that he is on thin ice since he doesn't score or assist.
Can only pray that is true.
Can only pray that is true.
I am probably one of Mata's harshest critics but if he was put in at attacking midfield rather than Lingard I don't see how that could be anything but an upgrade.
Yes it is, and there IS a wider conversation to be had regarding his status as a starter for us. Tonight and Chelsea aren't the performances to go in on him for though.
His pressing was key in our control of the first half, he was the driving force behind Wolves having to totally bypass their midfield where we could have been exploited.
Someone mentioned about his role in the first goal could have been done by someone else, it's a bollocks point, because it wasn't. This utter refusal to look at the wider picture and look at what he is offering besides goals and assists is what is grating. It stinks of the years of abuse Ji-Sung Park copped on this forum right up until it finally clicked that those aren't the only metrics to measure a performance
A lesson then superbly forgotten just in time for the next whipping boy, it is just so utterly, utterly predictable.
Link up, work rate, blah blah blah.
Lingard is in the team for his pressing and speed threat on the counter.
But he is essential in our pressing, you don’t understand football...
Jeez that absolutely horrendous.
Let's play Usain bolt instead
Think we might have invented the defensive Number 10.
He works hard for the team, can pass, shoot, makes good runs and can tackle, but he does lack something, not sure what it is, but if Gomes cannot replace him by the end of the season then I'm afraid the club is gonna miss out big time.
One is retired in Portugal another one is pundit on TV because no big club were after him.
Bang average player who will score odd goal.
You can't come on here and call people simpletons for not agreeing with you though, that's not helping your argument is it.
You can talk about his pressing and his link up play and that stuff is important but when one of your main attackers has gone 9 months and over 1000 mins of PL football without a goal or an assist you're going to get criticised.
You bringing up Ji Sung Park hints at the real issue with Lingard, which is we shouldn't have to be playing him every week because we should have brought in more quality. Park was in a team with talent like Ronaldo and Rooney and Scholes etc so we rarely had to rely on him being creative.
His numbers are definitely not good enough and he had a good chance to score today but miss kicked the ball.
I like Lingard, but it was obvious we needed an upgrade at the 10 position. Mata and Pereira, who Ole has used to rotate with him during pre-season are not up to scratch either.
Maybe Gomes will get a go soon, but we didn't play bad today and Lingard didn't exactly stink up the place, I just want more from him.
I like Lingard, but it was obvious we needed an upgrade at the 10 position. Mata and Pereira, who Ole has used to rotate with him during pre-season are not up to scratch either.
Maybe Gomes will get a go soon, but we didn't play bad today and Lingard didn't exactly stink up the place, I just want more from him.
He lacks everything you mentioned in the first sentence.
His career has suffered from not having a fixed position. He was restricted to the right under van Gaal, which was when we saw the most consistent string of games from him.
Ability.
I just don't really understand how we're in this position again.
Lingard's fine, really, but you know what you get with him and you know what you don't get. What you don't get is the output to suggest he should be a first choice attacking player at United. We knew that. Going into the season, then, why did we settle on 4-2-3-1 if we aren't able to get anybody else in?
Lingard's fine, really, but you know what you get with him and you know what you don't get. What you don't get is the output to suggest he should be a first choice attacking player at United. We knew that. Going into the season, then, why did we settle on 4-2-3-1 if we aren't able to get anybody else in?
He most defo cannot do these things consistently
how many sample time periods did you take that from? presume just the 1
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