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Carrick regularly covered a lot of ground. He just did it slowly and effectively because he had the ability to anticipate where he needed to be. Another example is Toni Kroos. More often than not he's in the top 3 for distance covered on the pitch, but it isn't noticeable because he doesn't run around frantically, since he doesn't have to. He can control the entire game without having to run about like a rabid dog by just staying one step ahead of the action.Hiding from the ball isn’t trying in my opinion. I don’t know why people equate running around = trying hard. His just looking busy. He isn’t even running around that much either, nothing like Tevez & Rooney use too. Someone like Carrick for example who didn’t “run around” much would you say he wasn’t trying his best when he was playing?
I don’t find this funny at all. Just last week we have had a campaign during the FA Cup which is concerning mental health in football. A couple of weeks before this Lingard came out and said how he’s been struggling mentally due to things going on in his personal life.
Yes, he’s been very poor recently on the playing field but the amount of abuse and bullying he has received on social media recently is nothing short of disgraceful.
I would be very surprised if the club offer a contract extension to Jesse Lingard. His appearances this season has largely been out of necessity and his form is at an all time low. He probably realises himself he needs to move on and accept his 100K per week pay packet is a thing of the past.
Are you sure? under the current regime i'd be more surprised if they didn't.I would be very surprised if the club offer a contract extension to Jesse Lingard. His appearances this season has largely been out of necessity and his form is at an all time low. He probably realises himself he needs to move on and accept his 100K per week pay packet is a thing of the past.
I don’t find this funny at all. Just last week we have had a campaign during the FA Cup which is concerning mental health in football. A couple of weeks before this Lingard came out and said how he’s been struggling mentally due to things going on in his personal life.
Yes, he’s been very poor recently on the playing field but the amount of abuse and bullying he has received on social media recently is nothing short of disgraceful.
Are you sure? under the current regime i'd be more surprised if they didn't.
"Its OK Jesse I know your form has been worse than championship level, here's a new 5 year contract and a pay rise to give you a bit more incentive to try harder"
Oh yes the new times when you can't even criticise a player who's been posting his merchandise stuff on twitter/instagram all year while being absolute shit for the club. Some of the double standards not just here but in the british media are so fecked up. You have players like Martial, Pogba, DDG who play 2-3 bad games and everyone lynches them but our boy Jlingz plays 5 bad games nothing, 20 bad games still nothing. 1 year of bad games and we finally have movement. He's starting to get the criticism he deserves oh and it only took how long?It's shocking and a sad sign of our times . It is only a matter of time before some footballer ends up trying to kill themselves over the abuse they get from idiots .
Im pretty certain at least 99% of the people abusing Lingard do not want him to play well as they get so much satisfaction from hating him
Complete nonsense. Abusing is very wrong and I'm pretty sure those who do would prefer Lingard to help the club than the opposite.It's shocking and a sad sign of our times . It is only a matter of time before some footballer ends up trying to kill themselves over the abuse they get from idiots .
Im pretty certain at least 99% of the people abusing Lingard do not want him to play well as they get so much satisfaction from hating him
Honestly I don’t think the majority of footballers even read their comments or social media. Most of it Is handled by PR teams anyway.It's shocking and a sad sign of our times . It is only a matter of time before some footballer ends up trying to kill themselves over the abuse they get from idiots .
Im pretty certain at least 99% of the people abusing Lingard do not want him to play well as they get so much satisfaction from hating him
Honestly I don’t think the majority of footballers even read their comments or social media. Most of it Is handled by PR teams anyway.
its quite clear to me that pogba had no idea how some fans felt towards him until recently, which is why the extra training videos have started happening.
It's shocking and a sad sign of our times . It is only a matter of time before some footballer ends up trying to kill themselves over the abuse they get from idiots .
Im pretty certain at least 99% of the people abusing Lingard do not want him to play well as they get so much satisfaction from hating him
If you haven't realized it yet. English players are immune from criticism.I don't think random supporters far away will cause anyone to do that. Although I agree with the second part.
It is like people try the best to abuse and attack Lingard for whatever he does. Also saying rubbish things about our players.
Young and Jones get a lot of shit too although not as much as Lingard.
I do not know why people hate their own side that much. I can understand wanting better players/better manager and you can mention that. Although I love most of our players and I am normally sad to see people go even when it might be the right thing to do.
If you haven't realized it yet. English players are immune from criticism.
I meant by the English media. Look how long it took for everyone to realize how bad Lingard is. While they shit on foreign players just after a few bad games.I feel it is the opposite here a lot. Rooney was a golden boy in the media, but on here he got some shit even if he had his defenders.
Smalling got loads of stick. Rashford gets stick too even if not that much. Shaw get lots of stick.
Maguire, Greenwood, Williams and Wan Bissaka are the new golden boys here that few attacks and most people hope they will turn into world beaters since they are new.
I feel like De Gea is the most protected one if you compare to his performances and wages. Given that he cost us top 4 with all his errors you would expect people go actually be annoyed with him.
Martial and Pogba got loads of fans defending them too. Although there are lots of attacks on Pogba too.
Mental health is a big issue and I don't wish harm to anyone.I would say most of them don't as they have better things to do but I'm sure there are some players sitting g around and checking online.
Mental Health is a big issue and it's easy to imagine a player with the condition stumbling upon abuse from fans online and just sending him over the edge
I meant by the English media. Look how long it took for everyone to realize how bad Lingard is. While they shit on foreign players just after a few bad games.
It's shocking and a sad sign of our times . It is only a matter of time before some footballer ends up trying to kill themselves over the abuse they get from idiots .
Im pretty certain at least 99% of the people abusing Lingard do not want him to play well as they get so much satisfaction from hating him
It is like people try the best to abuse and attack Lingard for whatever he does. Also saying rubbish things about our players.
What utter nonsense, a player is free to choose any agent he likes, so long as that agent is licensed. If that player faced sanctions or dropping for that reason it’s a case for the PFA.Then he can feck off with the cnut. Geez. Can't believe Ole still keeps playing him after that, unbelievable.
'Met with considerable unease'?
If Fergie was here he'd been lucky to be playing in the reserves after a move like that.
Exactly. We've all suffered him the last couple of seasons. He's made a point of acting like a compete dickhead and even though it wound me up the wrong way it didn't really bother me until his 0.001 comment. Since then the hatred has started and now all I see is an arrogant little prick. He wants to play with fire then let him get his fingers burnt.
his strike rateWhat's this 0.001 all about? Did he claim the fans criticising him were only 0.001 % of the fan base?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ingard-come-fire-0-012-social-media-post.htmlWhat's this 0.001 all about? Did he claim the fans criticising him were only 0.001 % of the fan base?
The reason they looked 'useful' was because they had top players around them (and SAF) to hide behind. Put Welbeck and Cleverly in this team and they would look as pedestrian as Lingard.Lingard never reached their level, not even half of it. At least these two were useful for a big period when we were one of the best teams in Europe, unlike the laughing stock we have become the last 5 years.
The ole part is debatable because you can now see an erratic rashford and Fred churn out consistent and better performances.The reason they looked 'useful' was because they had top players around them (and SAF) to hide behind. Put Welbeck and Cleverly in this team and they would look as pedestrian as Lingard.
The reason players such as Lingard keep getting picked by Ole (and make no mistake, he'll be back in the team soon) is because Lingard's lack of footballing talent is matched by Ole's own lack of coaching (and not managing) talent. So even if Ole had access to players who are technically really good, there's little he could do to get them to play at a higher level. He would keep defaulting to the 'enjoy yourselves, play with a smile, run around a lot' coaching philosophy. Players like lingard are right up Ole's alley.
I can’t see how moving to a place where people know more about fashion is going to work in his favour when it comes to his clothing brandI was listening to Castle’s podcast , I know he can be full of rubbish but he said Lingard has got Raiola to find him a club in Italy as he’s leaving Utd in the summer . He mentioned the lower tax rate as an incentive for him to move to Italy and of course his off field antics will be well suited in cities like Milan and Rome I guess.
Make it happen Raiola you cnut
Lingard was an international player.I was wondering how much he would be worth on the open market and the teams that would be interested in him.
Lately he has been sh1t but he is an international and he has played well in the past but he is so inconsistent
I would say about 10mil?
"Our messi" spit out my morning coffee reading thatI doubt that Ed will want him to go, especially with Pogba likely on his way. Alongside Rashford, Jesse is very much the "Face of Manchester United" in terms of marketing, PR, etc - our Messi, if you like, on a smaller scale and not in ability terms of course.
Enjoyed reading that mate. Can't argue.Lingard is a really interesting case. He is a championship level footballer who lucked out and through a series of coincidences and one purple match, has managed to forge a career at one of the biggest clubs in the world.
If you look at someone like Almiron at Newcastle, it’s a similar story, a number 10 who constantly loses possession and doesn’t score or assist. However, fans have really taken to Almiron and there are two major reasons for that.
The first one is the perceived attitude. Almiron is quiet and unconcerned with his appearance. He is tracking back beyond the halfway pulling faces and killing himself to try to get the ball back after his mistake.
There runs are not “intelligent” runs, like many have reasoned that Lingard had offered in the past, but proper face contorting, back-breaking lunges to recover. The fans are sympathetic and cheer his work rate. Lingard runs a lot, but it’s a different type of running, it’s aimless. He is not a quiet, hardworking, unassuming pro trying his best. He is seen as a poser who cares more about his appearance on social media than helping the team.
It goes hand in hand with the second point, the size of the club. At Newcastle, going through tough times, that unassuming nature and hard graft is applauded, but at Manchester United, even that ,wouldn’t be enough. As such, he has become the figure of everything that is wrong with the club. Not enough quality and priorities that are not in line with supporters expectations.
I would feel sorry for him, but then an oppo fan sends me a clip from his Instagram, and it reminds me why I just want him gone.
Let him find that out for himself when he’s off our books.I can’t see how moving to a place where people know more about fashion is going to work in his favour when it comes to his clothing brand