Javi Martinez

[Danny Boi]

Nono I didn't want to sound like a downer and claim that we can't sign midfielders.

A bit difficult to comment on the others you mention with certainty FWIW but TBF I think the assessment if Martinez was correct in decreasing order of likelihood :

1. He'll probably stay at Bayern. They are financial healthy and he was one of the most effective players for them before the injury marred campaign. Their coach is a big believer in him and made attempts to sign the guy at Barcelona. They don't even need money given they have options at every position and signed a Top 5 striker for free.

2. Madrid and Barcelona have never been afraid to stockpile quality players. Also they need players at vital positions and you can't get a better option than Martinez who's an experienced, versatile player. Alonso is getting old and Khedira has been below par/ recovering from a long term injury. Madrid have revenues that exceed ours by 100 million and they're never averse to spending money irrespective of what they have. Similar with Barcelona who might make him the priority failing in their pursuit of Benatia/ Koke. And it makes sense too. Javi would return to his home nation, play for a massive club like ours, speak the same language, same culture, weather etc.

That's a fair argument but the point is, it has been repeated for virtually all of our targets.I can't see Madrid and Barcelona buying more than 1 midfielder each.Bayern are also stockpiled with midfielders.

So there is bound to be some quality midfielders not going to them this summer.After those clubs I think we have a fair chance of getting top quality players if we put the money on the table.One bad season doesn't suddenly make us lose all attractiveness to players.

 

[a_devil_inside]

De Gea's probably still working on the deal now

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

So threads are only accessible to muppets? Never knew that was a rule. Some of you need to be more realistic.

Shouldn't threads be based on some sort of basis though e.g. Press speculation? I mean, I could start a "Messi and Ronaldo" thread stating that it would be nice if we could sign the two of them, but it would be a bit pointless of me.

 

[Silverman]

https://twitter.com/D_DeGea/statuses/473458714943700992
They seem to get on anyway.

 

[sun_tzu]

De Gea's probably still working on the deal now

Like his work on thiago last summer?

 

[::sonny::]

https://twitter.com/D_DeGea/statuses/473458714943700992
They seem to get on anyway.

@Javi8martinez

So now i can stalk him to come to united, i already did it with strootman )

 

[Invictus]

That's a fair argument but the point is, it has been repeated for virtually all of our targets.I can't see Madrid and Barcelona buying more than 1 midfielder each.Bayern are also stockpiled with midfielders.

So there is bound to be some quality midfielders not going to them this summer.After those clubs I think we have a fair chance of getting top quality players if we put the money on the table.One bad season doesn't suddenly make us lose all attractiveness to players.

Of course. Like you pointed out they can't sign every world-class player. We can and probably will sign a couple of really good midfielders available. Maybe not Martinez IMO, but there are other good options in the market too.

I personally think there are some exceptional young midfielders who're going under the radar a bit and not many people are mentioning their names. Koke or Martinez might be established players now but in 2-3 years the likes of Saul, Oliver, Kovacic, Goretzka will be experienced and reach a similar level. Those are the type of players we should target IMO - like we did in signing a young Pogba from Le Harve. They are cheaper, with great room for improvement under Van Gaal and the competition for their signature won't be as intense as a Vidal or Koke. But in a few years they will also be among the best midfielders around and prove to be bargain buys for the long term.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Shouldn't threads be based on some sort of basis though e.g. Press speculation? I mean, I could start a "Messi and Ronaldo" thread stating that it would be nice if we could sign the two of them, but it would be a bit pointless of me.

A pic of de Gea and Martinez together is hardly a basis on which we can begin speculating about signing him though, is it?

 

[Silverman]

@Javi8martinez

So now i can stalk him to come to united, i already did it with strootman )

He'll thank you in his press conference for helping him decide

 

[Andrew~]

It's funny people are salivating about him, when he's an incredibly similar player to Carrick and all you lot seem to hate his play-style.

 

[Genius Me!]

It's funny people are salivating about him, when he's an incredibly similar player to Carrick and all you lot seem to hate his play-style.

No one hates carricks play style, he's been an incredible player for us but is getting on a bit and it's got past the stage where he should continue to be the best midfielder at our club.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

A pic of de Gea and Martinez together is hardly a basis on which we can begin speculating about signing him though, is it?

That was my point!

 

[Will Absolute]

Cripes! When I saw the sudden burst of activity in this thread, I thought we'd at least been linked.

Two pages based on nothing but a poster saying he'd be happy if we signed him! How pathetic is that? Famine victims eating the leather in their boots comes to mind. Starving muppets will eat anything.

 

[Genius Me!]

Cripes! When I saw the sudden burst of activity in this thread, I thought we'd at least been linked.

Two pages based on nothing but a poster saying he'd be happy if we signed him! How pathetic is that? Famine victims eating the leather in their boots comes to mind. Starving muppets will eat anything.

Thanks for reminding us that this isn't a forum, boys get out of the thread Will has spoken.

 

[Will Absolute]

Thanks for reminding us that this isn't a forum, boys get out of the thread Will has spoken.

I pride myself on my muppetry. The post was intended as self-mockery.

Why am I so misunderstood?

 

[Ramshock]

Too expansive and bayern won't sell him

Can't possibly know any of that

 

[Genius Me!]

I pride myself on my muppetry. The post was intended as self-mockery.

Why am I so misunderstood?

You're far ahead of your time for your own good. One day in the future when the rest of us catch up with you, then you may end up being regarded as some form of genius. Just not yet, not yet.

 

[sullydnl]

It's funny people are salivating about him, when he's an incredibly similar player to Carrick and all you lot seem to hate his play-style.

Don't think people ever hated Carrick's style of play, they just didn't think he was a top class midfielder (and they were right). Martinez might have the same style as Carrick but he's also much more talented.

 

[Will Absolute]

You're far ahead of your time for your own good. One day in the future when the rest of us catch up with you, then you may end up being regarded as some form of genius. Just not yet, not yet.

You're a bit strange, GM.

 

[Bazi]

Can't possibly know any of that

Javi Martínez is not for sale, this is as certain as it ever gets in professional football. He has three years left on his contract, Bayern doesn't need the money, Bayern's Director of Football loves him, Pep rates him and gave him a lot of minutes, he sits at the heart of Bayern's recently developed three-men-defense, the fans love him and Javi is happy in Munich. He was their best player at the DFB cup final against Dortmund and vital to winning the cup.

That's not how a transfer in the making looks like.

 

[bishblaize]

Javi Martínez is not for sale, this is as certain as it ever gets in professional football. He has three years left on his contract, Bayern doesn't need the money, Bayern's Director of Football loves him, Pep rates him and gave him a lot of minutes, he sits at the heart of Bayern's recently developed three-men-defense, the fans love him and Javi is happy in Munich. He was their best player at the DFB cup final against Dortmund and vital to winning the cup.

That's not how a transfer in the making looks like.

Muppet killer.

 

[NK86]

So threads are only accessible to muppets? Never knew that was a rule. Some of you need to be more realistic.

Well you need to be more positive. You keep saying we don't stand a chance for any signing we seem to be going for. It's almost like RvP didn't happen 2 seasons back.

 

[RedRover]

Well you need to be more positive. You keep saying we don't stand a chance for any signing we seem to be going for. It's almost like RvP didn't happen 2 seasons back.

Indeed. Its bizzare the amount of people on here who are so negative. Loads of people said we'd never get RVP or Mata - and they both happened.

We have money to burn (apparently) and a top manager who with a decent showing in the World Cup could have people queuing to join. It seems that a fair few quality players are available, and doubtless we will be interested. People need to be more patient. Seems a "negative" tweet from some punter on Twitter and its all doom and gloom while anything positive is written off as rubbish. Why not just wait a while and see what happens - its evident things are going on behind the scenes.

 

[NK86]

Indeed. Its bizzare the amount of people on here who are so negative. Loads of people said we'd never get RVP or Mata - and they both happened.

We have money to burn (apparently) and a top manager who with a decent showing in the World Cup could have people queuing to join. It seems that a fair few quality players are available, and doubtless we will be interested. People need to be more patient. Seems a "negative" tweet from some punter on Twitter and its all doom and gloom while anything positive is written off as rubbish. Why not just wait a while and see what happens - its evident things are going on behind the scenes.

Yes. And even if one has doubts/concerns, they can be put in a more polished manner instead of "never going to happen". It's almost as if they are the ones who are driving the deal and know what is actually going on.

 

[RedRover]

Yes. And even if one has doubts/concerns, they can be put in a more polished manner instead of "never going to happen". It's almost as if they are the ones who are driving the deal and know what is actually going on.

Its classic internet forum garbage - people love to be negative so they can call it right later when it doesnt happen, as is the case with 90% of transfers.

They know no better than anyone else. What they mean is "I dont think it will happen" - which is a fair opinion, but doesnt sound as good.

 

[coolredwine]

So we will now be getting linked to this guy tomorrow.

 

[NK86]

Its classic internet forum garbage - people love to be negative so they can call it right later when it doesnt happen, as is the case with 90% of transfers.

They know no better than anyone else. What they mean is "I dont think it will happen" - which is a fair opinion, but doesnt sound as good.

Exactly. And then we are called muppets and asked to be "realistic". Almost as if we are asking to be sent on the moon in the next appollo mission or something!

 

[RedRover]

Exactly. And then we are called muppets and asked to be "realistic". Almost as if we are asking to be sent on the moon in the next appollo mission or something!

I personally dont see what's not "realistic" about a club with a lot of money, playing in arguably the world's most popular league, and with a top manager signing quality players. Other clubs with arguably far less pull do it, so why shouldn't United fans expect similar?

People need to calm down a bit and wait and see where we are come the start of the season. As it is we may not attract certain players due to lack of CL football - but I'm sure a lot of professionals signing long term, big money deals look past the fact that there is no CL this year and look at what the future could hold. There is no reason without a bit of investment and a hadful of quality players we couldnt be back up there with Europe's elite in a year or two and challenging for top honours.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Well you need to be more positive. You keep saying we don't stand a chance for any signing we seem to be going for. It's almost like RvP didn't happen 2 seasons back.

You're getting excited over a Twitter picture of de Gea and Martinez, there's being realistic and there's being ridiculous.

 

[Bazi]

You're getting excited over a Twitter picture of de Gea and Martinez, there's being realistic and there's being ridiculous.

Perhaps David de Gea is going to join Bayern instead?

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Perhaps David de Gea is going to join Bayern instead?

It's the same logic for which people are feeling positive signing Martinez in this thread, so why not?

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Javi Martínez is not for sale, this is as certain as it ever gets in professional football. He has three years left on his contract, Bayern doesn't need the money, Bayern's Director of Football loves him, Pep rates him and gave him a lot of minutes, he sits at the heart of Bayern's recently developed three-men-defense, the fans love him and Javi is happy in Munich. He was their best player at the DFB cup final against Dortmund and vital to winning the cup.

That's not how a transfer in the making looks like.

Booooooo!

I dared to dream.

 

[NK86]

You're getting excited over a Twitter picture of de Gea and Martinez, there's being realistic and there's being ridiculous.

I know nothing about the picture or about the possibility of him coming to us. But I don't go around harping he will definitely come to us. You were quite negative when you said there is no chance for us to get him. That is what I was referring to.

 

[Ruht]

So De Gea is joining us then? Good job agent Javi!

Hands off our Spanish bull though, okay?

 

[::sonny::]

Perhaps David de Gea is going to join Bayern instead?

A swap with Neuer? Will never happen

 

[Walrus]

So what's the thoughts on this lad. He has gone somewhat under the radar since joining Bayern - I think he would be perfect for us. Can play CB or CM.

 

[bucky]

So what's the thoughts on this lad. He has gone somewhat under the radar since joining Bayern - I think he would be perfect for us. Can play CB or CM.

Yes, he would. Sadly, he probably won't leave anytime soon.

 

[The Mitcher]

So De Gea is joining us then? Good job agent Javi!

Hands off our Spanish bull though, okay?

Hands off our Spanish Dave!

 

[Ducklegs]

So what's the thoughts on this lad. He has gone somewhat under the radar since joining Bayern - I think he would be perfect for us. Can play CB or CM.

He has been a key figure at Bayern since he joined and has been an absolute monster of a player.

The only radar he has gone under are ones that either broken or turned off.

 

[Blackwidow]

So what's the thoughts on this lad. He has gone somewhat under the radar since joining Bayern - I think he would be perfect for us. Can play CB or CM.

The greatest weapon if you have to play against counter attacks... Urgghh... Del Bosque does not seem to know that... Had a really great show as the center of a three men backline against Reus and Lewandowski lately who he totally bossed...

He is in Bayern's treasure and "not-for-sale" department...