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Would be great but only if LVG prioritises his development rather than being overly harsh on him while his friend with benefits Wayne stinks up the pitch.
He's just as frustrating as Memphis and Lingard. Itd probably be more beneficial for him to go elsewhere again if he hadn't already played for two clubs.Lingard and Depay have been starting for us quite regularly.
Mata is hardly pulling up trees either.
Can't wait for van Gaal to decide he isn't good enough again after one game against tough opponent.
It'll be interesting to see if he picked up anything from his Dortmund days or if LvG will beat the attacking play out of him.
Those complaining about recalling him are daft.We loan Januzaj people complain, we bring Januzaj back from loan, people complain
He is not good enough. If he would be he would take his chances and show a performance. He does not. If you ask Dortmund and their fans they do not tell much positives about him. A lot of training sessions in Germany are open - and a lot fans go to watch then, too - so they see more than the "normal" EPL customer does. And he was given chances - but like elsewhere, when you do not show the attitude and you do not show form - let alone be productive - you do not get forward. He wished himself to be loaned to Dortmund - he was not "pressed" there. He is not a bloody youngster either.
How many chances would you to give him? And if he does show a good performance somewhen now, would that be that he always does that in the future. Or does he need consistent kicks in the butt - even then he is wrong at a top club and should find a club that is on his level.
But yes - like usually here in the forum - why not blame van Gaal. Van Gaal just can give guidelines - the young players have to show there value and work hard. The past shows that no other coach had so much patience with young ones, gave so much opportunities - but it is the players themselves to have the right work attitude etc. If they did van Gaal was their best caretaker.
My main concern now is that Van Gaal sells him eventually, before riding off into the sunset and leaving us to pick up the pieces. A player like Januzaj doesn't thrive in the sort of style we play, so I can't see how he'll impress under LVG.
So - why are you scared he gets sold or leaves United? Especially if he does not impress... Because somewhen in the next 20 years he might have a goal or assist or play good when you only give him 1000 chances - but probably only when he is given the perfect conditions concerning position, midfielder, opponent etc.
He is to slow to impress on the wings - not tricky enough - and does not offer enough creativity in the center - that is what the Dortmund fans say. Do you think some of this still changes?
I did not know that Januzaj came to United with van Gaal...Van Gaal gave far worse players chance while Januzaj never really got any decent run of games under him.
He was poor for Dortmund, fine, but that has nothing do to with players here who are far from great form.
So - why are you scared he gets sold or leaves United? Especially if he does not impress... Because somewhen in the next 20 years he might have a goal or assist or play good when you only give him 1000 chances - but probably only when he is given the perfect conditions concerning position, midfielder, opponent etc.
He is to slow to impress on the wings - not tricky enough - and does not offer enough creativity in the center - that is what the Dortmund fans say. Do you think some of this still changes?
I did not know that Januzaj came to United with van Gaal...
When I look into his data at Wikipedia he already has 46 appearances for United and scored 5 goals. So I guess he already got bunches of chances to impress for the club...
And no - you do not need professionals that only work out fine when it is sunny and everything is working smoothly.
Van Gaal gave far worse players chance while Januzaj never really got any decent run of games under him.
He was poor for Dortmund, fine, but that has nothing do to with players here who are far from great form.
He's just 20 though. By your standards we should sell Depay also, and should have also sold Cristiano Ronaldo at 20. (Imagine the ball loosing erratic winger of his type at the time in a LVG Philosophy team.)
So - why are you scared he gets sold or leaves United? Especially if he does not impress... Because somewhen in the next 20 years he might have a goal or assist or play good when you only give him 1000 chances - but probably only when he is given the perfect conditions concerning position, midfielder, opponent etc.
He is to slow to impress on the wings - not tricky enough - and does not offer enough creativity in the center - that is what the Dortmund fans say. Do you think some of this still changes?
How about looking his bright performances in his first season instead of stats, and looking every one of our attacking players performing under van Gaal and then judge him, not after checking his stats and listening what Dortmund fans had to say about him after 5 games he's played for them.
If he doesn't show anything in another year or two in team in which attacking players actually play decent football then I will be ready to give up on him, but not under these circumstances.
I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous.
Does it have anything to do with age? The age today does not so much today anymore in which a big part of the players already got professional training for years.
If you want to wait for years that somewhen the real breakthrough comes (if it comes) fine.
See I thought that since Giggs clearly has a soft spot for him (it's been reported anyway) - I thought Giggs being ass Manager would be able to get Adnan on the right track - but it didn't happen. Same thing Giggs supposedly has Depay under his wing - same thing - nothing happening. So not sure Giggs is the right person to get this kid going.Yes, it seems LvG just couldn't make his mind up with Januzaj, I think he knows full well there is a good player in there but was frustrated he couldn't get him to show it, so he was in and out of the team and played all over the place, but now with hindsight after virtually all our attackers have been pretty bad, (some worse than others admittedly) it makes more sense as to why he dropped off so badly, what chance did a young kid who clearly needs an arm around him have under LvG?
I just hope LvG takes a differnt approach with him and gets him playing again, but I won't hold my breath, reckon he'd thrive under Giggs though.
See I thought that since Giggs clearly has a soft spot for him (it's been reported anyway) - I thought Giggs being ass Manager would be able to get Adnan on the right track - but it didn't happen. Same thing Giggs supposedly has Depay under his wing - same thing - nothing happening. So not sure Giggs is the right person to get this kid going.
You could.
If it would be my team and my decision I would not. Give others the chance who might take it. The players that are really world beaters might not show always something when the environment is not so good - but they atleast make a difference to the other players on the pitch most of the matches. Can you tell that of Januzaj?
He could just contribute like Martial, rather than run down blind alleys. He needs an end product and not try to do everything himself.My main concern now is that Van Gaal sells him eventually, before riding off into the sunset and leaving us to pick up the pieces. A player like Januzaj doesn't thrive in the sort of style we play, so I can't see how he'll impress under LVG.
So you would have sold Cristiano ronaldo as he had just 6/7 goals in his first 46 appearances for the club by the same logic ? And SAF was wrong in investing time in him when he has was having some stinkers ? Should have sold him ?
And that's even ignoring the fact that it wasn't such a constraint system at the time as is now.
Btw, Kane was struggling at Championship level before his breakthrough came out of nowhere.
He clearly has the talent and considering he's only 20, we need to spend time in him for the future and get what we can get out of him right now which is a decent amount too considering our other options. Just because his breakthrough might not come under LVG doesn't mean we allow LVG to sell our most promising talents.
So - why are you scared he gets sold or leaves United? Especially if he does not impress... Because somewhen in the next 20 years he might have a goal or assist or play good when you only give him 1000 chances - but probably only when he is given the perfect conditions concerning position, midfielder, opponent etc.
He is to slow to impress on the wings - not tricky enough - and does not offer enough creativity in the center - that is what the Dortmund fans say. Do you think some of this still changes?
Yeah I know it's not just about the 'arm around the shoulders' - it's a bit more nuanced - but of course if Giggs has the ability to manage these different things it hasn't been shown with these kids as yet.Thing both depay and Januzaj need a more fluid and direct interchanging attacking system with freedom plus consistent games despite some inconsistencies.
Dunno, if giggs is the guy to give them that and balance the team at the same time. (Tough art) But it's not just about arm around the shoulders.
In the Dortmund games I watched it was quite the opposite, he was trying too much and too much on his own. More often than not his dribbling was unsuccessful and he lost the ball (in the final third) with his team mates in better positions when a simple pass would have been what's needed. Reading through a fan forum many shared that view - which is obviously not representing all BVB fans. Nevertheless I seem to have watched a different Januzaj then.
Thank feck.At least we won't have to pay 30 million for Felipe fecking Anderson now.
So - why are you scared he gets sold or leaves United? Especially if he does not impress... Because somewhen in the next 20 years he might have a goal or assist or play good when you only give him 1000 chances - but probably only when he is given the perfect conditions concerning position, midfielder, opponent etc.
He is to slow to impress on the wings - not tricky enough - and does not offer enough creativity in the center - that is what the Dortmund fans say. Do you think some of this still changes?