[Keeps It tidy]

So in the last few pages he has been compared to the likes Ronaldo and Fernando Torres. Nice to see that we are not going over the top with the hype.

 

[limerickcitykid]

So in the last few pages he has been compared to the likes Ronaldo and Fernando Torres. Nice to see that we are not going over the top with the hype.

There is a difference between comparing styles of play with their level of ability.

 

[Dante]

So in the last few pages he has been compared to the likes Ronaldo and Fernando Torres. Nice to see that we are not going over the top with the hype.

Rooney reminds me of Shrek. That doesn't mean I think he lives under a fecking tree.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

There is a difference between comparing styles of play with their level of ability.

I think a player comparison only works if level of ability is considered. I think most strikers would want to play in the style Brazilian Ronaldo did.

 

[Raoul]

So in the last few pages he has been compared to the likes Ronaldo and Fernando Torres. Nice to see that we are not going over the top with the hype.

Good point.

 

[Brightonian]

There is a difference between comparing styles of play with their level of ability.

This.

I think a player comparison only works if level of ability is considered. I think most strikers would want to play in the style Brazilian Ronaldo did.

You're just wrong though. I can say 'Joe Bloggs plays like Van Persie' without meaning that he's as good as Van Persie.

But there's nothing so sure as the fact that if you try to do that on the Caf, the 'calm down calm down, he's barely even played for us yet!' crowd will materialise faster than you can say 'in the mould of'. Every caftard more desperate than the next to be 'the balanced, objective one'.

 

[Keeps It tidy]

This.



You're just wrong though. I can say 'Joe Bloggs plays like Van Persie' without meaning that he's as good as Van Persie.

But there's nothing so sure as the fact that if you try to do that on the Caf, the 'calm down calm down, he's barely even played for us yet!' crowd will materialise faster than you can say 'in the mould of'. Every caftard more desperate than the next to be 'the balanced, objective one'.

I am just saying it is a meaningless comparison to make if you do not factor in level of ability. Every striker would want to play like Van Persie it only matters if they are capable of playing in that fashion.

 

[limerickcitykid]

I am just saying it is a meaningless comparison to make if you do not factor in level of ability. Every striker would want to play like Van Persie it only matters if they are capable of playing in that fashion.

That is wrong though. There are numerous of different way to play a position. Every striker would not want to play like Van Persie because some would rather use a style based off pace or others style their game off strength like Drogba or as a target man either best in the air or holding up the ball on the ground. Plenty of styles to play every position. My mate plays a similar style to Carrick, he is in no way a similar level of ability to Carrick.

 

[gooDevil]

I am just saying it is a meaningless comparison to make if you do not factor in level of ability. Every striker would want to play like Van Persie it only matters if they are capable of playing in that fashion.

The whole point, the whole point, of comparing a young players to one who has already come into his own is to give others an idea of what his style is like.

It would be extremely unhelpful to compare him to someone else young of similar ability instead.

 

[HabeasC]

So in the last few pages he has been compared to the likes Ronaldo and Fernando Torres. Nice to see that we are not going over the top with the hype.

To be fair, saying he will be somewhere between Ronaldo and Fernando Torres applies to many many many many footballers.

 

[Ekeke]

you see...I don't see Powell as a striker at all.

Like Gradi and Ferguson. Unfortunately we loan him out and he gets no experience whatsoever as a central midfielder, just as a forward. He's not going to make it as a central midfielder if he's not playing there week in week out and correcting his issues. He's certainly not ready as a cm, but he's scored goals at a good rate on loan as a striker. If we give him a chance next season its very likely to be continuing as a striker. Sir Alex nor Gradi will be our manager, the ones who wanted to use him as a central midfielder

 

[Shinjisan]

Like Gradi and Ferguson. Unfortunately we loan him out and he gets no experience whatsoever as a central midfielder, just as a forward. He's not going to make it as a central midfielder if he's not playing there week in week out and correcting his issues. He's certainly not ready as a cm, but he's scored goals at a good rate on loan as a striker. If we give him a chance next season its very likely to be continuing as a striker. Sir Alex nor Gradi will be our manager, the ones who wanted to use him as a central midfielder

If we are serious about him and see him as a central midfielder than we should get him back instead of loaning him out again. At lower clubs his goal scoring ability will always entice managers to use him in more forward positions. It is better that he trains here with the first team and gets played in central midfield in cup games or against bottom table PL opposition.

 

[XdanielredX]

He has been blown out beyond all proportion that on his 2nd appearance, even if he isn't bad, if he isn't faultless he will probably get canned by a certain number of "Fans" and people will change their opinion of him.

 

[Richard Cranium]

One of the best goal:game ratios in top European leagues this season.

 

[Swaters16]

My brother said something about Aston Villa fans rating him so we know Wilson's quality...

 

[Isotope]

Both goal process and how he finished them, reminds me of Kevin Phillips when partnered with that big pole Niall Quinn.

 

[Genius Me!]

Good post, but to be honest i'm not basing my view on how much or little I've seen him play, but more so on the dynamics of United competing with City, Chelsea, (and Arse/Pool) in the sugar daddy era. Whether or not certain youth players are given a chance is going to be based less on how good they are and more so on what our squad priorities to win trophies. Wilson could end up being a very good player who never makes it at United (by making it I mean being a consistent starting XI player), if our new manager buys most of his players from the outside in order to get a squad capable of competing with City, Chelsea, Madrid, PSG, etc.

I just personally think that some players have that little bit extra, and Januzaj has proved that if you're good enough then you'll Get a chance. Take Lawrence for example, he's a very good player and very talented on the ball, but I couldn't tell you if I think he has that edge to be able to be given proper chances here although he certainly wasn't lacking in confidence when he played the other night.

Of course I wouldn't expect Wilson to become our first choice striker, but I think there's definitely a place for him and I hope he continues to get chances so that he can show the rest of his qualities.

 

[gooDevil]

This guy has a really remarkable attitude, he plays with real joy in his game. He never yells or looks all intense and angry after a goal, it's always a little comfortable smile. He plays with the sort of joy I associate with Brazilians, like he's out on the dance floor having fun.

Haven't seen this posted:


Wilson intends to kick on
James Wilson aims to take his Manchester United career to the next level following his two-goal debut at a packed Old Trafford.

The 18-year-old’s pair of strikes went a long way to helping the Reds to a 3-1 win over Hull City, but it was a far cry from his last outing at the stadium, an Under-21 game against Norwich last month.

Wilson showed no nerves in front of a packed Theatre of Dreams, putting United two ahead with a pair of clinical finishes, each following up on set-up work from Marouane Fellaini.

“It was a great feeling, you can’t compare it to anything else,” Wilson told MUTV. ”The first goal was just sheer euphoria and then the second was just a great experience. The ground is a lot different without 75,000 people, but just to play here even in front of a small crowd for the Under-21s is still a great experience to play on such a ground. With all the fans here tonight it was even better.”

Wilson came close to an appearance a month ago, having been on the bench for the win over Newcastle, but having now made his bow, is convinced he can cope with the demands of top-flight football after representing the Under-18s, Under-19s and Under-21s this term.

“I feel like I can deal with the physicality and pace of the game. I just need to try to get as many games as possible under my belt for the experience. If you’re getting on in the club, you have to be progressing so obviously scoring for every age group is a good sign. I’ve got where I am now but I have to kick on.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-Wilson-relishes-Manchester-United-debut.aspx

 

[Cedric]

He plays with the sort of joy I associate with Brazilians, like he's out on the dance floor having fun.

The white Pele

 

[Ducklegs]

2 goals in a meaningless game= the new Neymar.


In all seriousness, my favourite part of the game these days is when we get to see new young players for the first time.

An already established player making a debut for his new club and doing well is good, but when any club brings a youngster on and they have a blinder it's brilliant.

 

[Cooksen]

2 down, 248 more to beat Sir Bobby.

 

[LR7]

Also I wonder how many more times people are going to come into this thread telling us to calm down and then remind us of Macheda, just as they were doing last summer with Januzaj.

Do you people think Wilsons career started yesterday or something?

I mean this with no disrespect, but you're not really able to give a decent account as to who's likely to break through and who are the clear stand out talents etc in youth if you don't watch much of it. The same way I can't really give a decent account as to whether or not I think Powell has a decent chance of carving a career here.

For example, Januzaj was head and shoulders above all other players from the academy, it was clear to those who watched him regularly as to how special he was and that if he could translate his performances to first team level then he was bound to make it. Even after he broke through, those people who hadn't watched anything of him was trying to heed caution to us getting excited and tried to remind us about Macheda even though they knew nothing of Adnan.

The same trend seems to be happening here. For me, Wilson is the standout player at reserve level and the one player I would personally put into the special category of young talent. For me, he's about as nailed on as you can get from an academy player to make it at this club. He's no Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar level wonderkid talent. But he sure is a talent and I'm very confident that he will make it here. Not that I class myself as the leading authority of youth players to make it here but I'm almost as certain that he will make it as I was with Januzaj last year and I'd be very happy if Hernandez left to pave way for Wilson to take his place. Not that I think Wilson is currently a better player than Hernandez, but their circumstances are different and Hernandez is too good to just be rotting on the bench, whereas for Wilson it would be a fantastic opportunity.

Yes, I agree on the whole it's hard to judge whether or not a youth player can make it, especially at a club like ours. But there will always be those special players like Pogba, Januzaj, Morrison etc who you just know that they have "it" and for me Wilson falls into that category and I think he's good enough to not need a loan just like the others mentioned.

You didn't see Wilson at his best last night, of course not, by the time we actually started to play football he was subbed off. But what you did see was him take 2 chances, for a seasoned pro it might seem like the easiest chances in the world, but for an 18 year old who was only playing u18s at the beginning of the season to now take those chances in front of 75,000 people under that kind of pressure is immense. He's not a poacher by any stretch of the imagination, unlike Hernandez he can actually create chances from nothing, he can take players on, he can shoot from anywhere really and has great accuracy. He's going to be a star, that I'm certain of.

Excellent posts. I remember the exact discussions in the januzaj thread last summer too. I agree Wilson is definitely special. People who haven't seen much of him will realise it soon enough .

 

[Varun]

Agreed. I'm a big follower of our youth team, but I wouldn't expect everyone else to be as passionate about the youngsters as me.

Maybe if people realised just how talented some of the kids were, they might take more interest but it's certainly no disgrace for people to not be aware. Although I would advise people to take a trip to the youth forum from time to time, they can learn a lot and watch some good videos.

Aye, its absolutely fine to not be heavily involved about the kids at the club, not everyone has the time or even the interest. I personally am somewhere in the middle. Not even close to being as involved as the likes of you, brightonian and KM but I certainly keep some sort of a track of the progress of the likes of Pearson, Periera, Wilson obviously, Rothwell etc.

Anyways, coming to Wilson, I totally agree with you. Has a lot of tools to become an absolutely top player. Great speed, technique, beats players and a good finish in him. I'l be amazed if he doesnt make it here.

 

[gooDevil]

The white Pele

He's about as similar to Pele as Rooney is!

Someone mentioned Lewandowski as someone with a similar skill set.

Of course all this comparison to other players is a bit daft. For anyone who hasn't seen Wilson it's not really all that useful to associate him with Van Persie or whoever, but I guess it's a start.

Let's you know he's not the Heskey sort at least.

 

[Ramshock]

Anyone know what his contract situation is?

 

[Ramshock]

He's about as similar to Pele as Rooney is!

Someone mentioned Lewandowski as someone with a similar skill set.

Of course all this comparison to other players is a bit daft. For anyone who hasn't seen Wilson it's not really all that useful to associate him with Van Persie or whoever, but I guess it's a start.

Let's you know he's not the Heskey sort at least.

He is the white Lewandowski then...settled.

 

[Kevin]

Rooney reminds me of Shrek. That doesn't mean I think he lives under a fecking tree.

Nor is he as handsome.

 

[vuc]

I thought the same a few weeks ago!

Owen had blistering pace, but doesn't seem as physical. He's got the Shearer look about him which is a good thing clearly.

 

[eddiebb]

He's been compared to a ridiculous number of people

Ronaldo, Torres, Owen, RvP, Kevin Phillips, Lewandowski, I've even seen Podolski somewhere

 

[ricky-romeo]

I think this lad is for real. Could be our best homegrown attacker since Scholesy.

you are so right.

 

[Bwuk]

He reminds me of Demba Ba.

 

[Ramshock]

He reminds me of Demba Ba.

In what way?

 

[Samid]

He reminds me of Demba Ba.

They could be twins.

 

[NJM78]

He reminds me of a young Chris Sutton.

 

[Brightonian]

He's like a Chinese Gerd Muller.

Also I wonder how many more times people are going to come into this thread telling us to calm down and then remind us of Macheda, just as they were doing last summer with Januzaj.

Do you people think Wilsons career started yesterday or something?

I mean this with no disrespect, but you're not really able to give a decent account as to who's likely to break through and who are the clear stand out talents etc in youth if you don't watch much of it. The same way I can't really give a decent account as to whether or not I think Powell has a decent chance of carving a career here.

For example, Januzaj was head and shoulders above all other players from the academy, it was clear to those who watched him regularly as to how special he was and that if he could translate his performances to first team level then he was bound to make it. Even after he broke through, those people who hadn't watched anything of him was trying to heed caution to us getting excited and tried to remind us about Macheda even though they knew nothing of Adnan.

The same trend seems to be happening here. For me, Wilson is the standout player at reserve level and the one player I would personally put into the special category of young talent. For me, he's about as nailed on as you can get from an academy player to make it at this club. He's no Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar level wonderkid talent. But he sure is a talent and I'm very confident that he will make it here. Not that I class myself as the leading authority of youth players to make it here but I'm almost as certain that he will make it as I was with Januzaj last year and I'd be very happy if Hernandez left to pave way for Wilson to take his place. Not that I think Wilson is currently a better player than Hernandez, but their circumstances are different and Hernandez is too good to just be rotting on the bench, whereas for Wilson it would be a fantastic opportunity.

Yes, I agree on the whole it's hard to judge whether or not a youth player can make it, especially at a club like ours. But there will always be those special players like Pogba, Januzaj, Morrison etc who you just know that they have "it" and for me Wilson falls into that category and I think he's good enough to not need a loan just like the others mentioned.

You didn't see Wilson at his best last night, of course not, by the time we actually started to play football he was subbed off. But what you did see was him take 2 chances, for a seasoned pro it might seem like the easiest chances in the world, but for an 18 year old who was only playing u18s at the beginning of the season to now take those chances in front of 75,000 people under that kind of pressure is immense. He's not a poacher by any stretch of the imagination, unlike Hernandez he can actually create chances from nothing, he can take players on, he can shoot from anywhere really and has great accuracy. He's going to be a star, that I'm certain of.

Excellent posts, sums up exactly how I feel. Anyone who comes in and tells us we're hyping him up ridiculously after just one game is going to get these quoted at them.

 

[Bwuk]

In what way?

in every way.

 

[A1X]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...rge-calm-about-the-new-maradona-2014050886368

Sports journalists urge calm about the new Maradona

 

[redtilldead123]

Please take 10 mins out of your day to compare the two videos and you will see a lot of things similar that you really see in other strikers. Of course there are things different, they are different players. But there is a striking resemblance.

I took the time out to compare Wilson and Ronaldo as you requested but I don't see much resemblance.

 

[Gerald G]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...rge-calm-about-the-new-maradona-2014050886368

Sports journalists urge calm about the new Maradona

That is good.

 

[Bader]

I took the time out to compare Wilson and Ronaldo as you requested but I don't see much resemblance.

Get your eyes tested then.

 

[Melvyn]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...to-reward-James-Wilson-with-new-contract.html

James Wilson is set to sign a new long-term contract as Manchester United step up their efforts to protect their emerging talents.

Wilson marked his first senior appearance for United with two goals in Tuesday night’s 3-1 victory over Hull City and is expected to commit his future to the club this month.

Telegraph Sport understands the 18-year-old forward had been on the radar of a number of leading European clubs even before his wonderful debut at Old Trafford.

Wilson’s deal expires this summer but United have never had any fears over the teenager leaving and believe he has the ability to stake a claim for a first-team place next season.

United rewarded Adnan Januzaj with a substantial pay rise from £1,000 to £30,000 a week in October after his emergence and Wilson can expect a deal that will reflect his burgeoning reputation.

The Staffordshire-born youngster has already made a remarkable climb up the youth levels and made his debut for United’s under-21s in December.

He was on the bench for the trip to Newcastle United under former United manager David Moyes while Ryan Giggs offered a glimpse of the future by rewarding his progress with a start on Tuesday.

Wilson’s goals against Hull ensured he has now scored this season for the under-18s, 19s, 21s and seniors.

He is in line to be named in Giggs’s squad for the final game of the season at Southampton on Sunday and will spend next week with the England Under-19s for a training camp ahead of the Euro Elite qualifying round.

United are also keen to persuade Wales Under-21 international Tom Lawrence to sign new terms after the midfielder also made his senior debut on Tuesday.

Lawrence is also out of contract this summer but is set to agree a deal, with the 20-year-old to be named in Wales’s extended 40-man training squad for the friendly against Holland next month.