Hard to say quite what his top level could have been, but he's definitely plentyu good enough to have remained and carved out a career at United if things had gone differently. It's crazy when you see people listing him alongside Macheda as a player who was "overhyped" as a kid.
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Hard to say quite what his top level could have been, but he's definitely plentyu good enough to have remained and carved out a career at United if things had gone differently. It's crazy when you see people listing him alongside Macheda as a player who was "overhyped" as a kid.
You're right about Hull. With experience will come more of an idea of how to tailor his game to different opposition.
I did feel though, especially early on, he looked nervy, was struggling with his touch and had a couple of stray passes. Also missed a decent chance. He grew into the game but rarely got too involved with the build up play after that, which probably benefitted his game as I've not seen him drop deep too often for the 21s or 18s.
As I say though, it's hardly a criticism - he scored 2 goals. It was a decent but unspectacular performance, but given most of us have seen that he's capable of the latter, we have much more to look forward to.
Well, that's not exactly what I meant. I mean, he did tailor his game to this opposition, didn't he? He scored two goals!
It was never going to look as good a performance as the ones where he's on the ball all the time, beating the offside trap and rounding the keeper, scoring long-range stunners etc etc. But that was because of the way Hull set up, to prevent that sort of thing. His performance was just as effective as ever. I didn't see much wrong with it.
Also, the pedant in me can't help pointing out that despite what the commentators said, he didn't miss that early chance. He looked to have struck it perfectly cleanly, but was denied by an excellent last-ditch block from the defender. The commentator on my stream (and on the hour-long sky highlights) got it into his head that Wilson mishit the ball, but I saw him catch it cleanly.
Sorry to keep banging on about Rossi in a thread about Wilson but just been googling for an update on his injury and turns out he actually made his comeback last night, coming on as a sub. He scored a goal an' all. Great stuff.
He has only made two sub appearances and there are only two games left but there was a report on Skysports saying that he is in consideration. He was top scorer in Italy before his injury and could be the best Italian striker at this point in time.
It is bizarre. I think it was a mistake by Fergie to let him go, perhaps he was seen as being too Spanish in style and not pacey enough.
The writing was on the wall from the moment he signer that no-neck troll, Tevez.
What really bothers me, though, is the thought that if we could have found a way to hold on to Rossi he could have had Michael Owen's place in the squad.
A young Micheal Owen.
You mean place on the injury table?
Fair enough on the first point - no complaints, I just don't feel he'd get those sort of chances on a regular basis against opposition set up like that. They were right place, right time finishes - obviously still a massive part of any striker's game - but we didn't see anything particularly eye catching like we know he's capable of. As much as they were both good finishes, they were a direct result of Hull mistakes. The first was poor marking and failing to deal with Fellaini and once it was knocked back in it could have been one of several that tucked it away. The second was just over commitment against us on the counter and the ball only fell to him because of a poor finish/good save/bit of both. I'm not sure most Premier League sides would make those sort of errors with any sort of regularity and Hull probably wouldn't have had they had more to play for.
I'm not really sure where I'm going with all that, as I say you really can't complain, I was just pointing out that he's capable of a lot more, even against opposition that sit back. The sky commentators (who were shite) seemed to suggest he was a poacher above anything else, and while his performance last night might seem to support that, it's not really an accurate representation of his game at all. I had the sky commentators on a sketchy stream from somewhere last night and rewatched parts of it properly on sky this morning, at neither time did I notice the block but I take that back if that's the case.
currently on pace for 76 goals in a season
Brilliant. Such a talent and a real shame we didn't see more of him at United. Shame that his career has been full of so many injuries.
Just quoting this one, but I'm struggling to understand a few of your comments today. For me Wilson has every chance of making it at this club as Januzaj did last summer which he took. Wilson for me goes in the Pogba/Januzaj bracket of talent who don't need to go through the loan system to be able to break into the first team. He may do of course if he finds opportunities scarce, but I can srongly see him being our fourth striker next season.
From what I can understand from your posts, you haven't actually seen that much of Wilson, is that right?
Disappointed we might not get into Europa competition next season. It would have been great experience for the likes of Wilson, Lawrence, etc.
On his debut, he did well and showed he is an intelligent footballer in the box. He still has a way to go and I can see him becoming one of United most prolific goalscorer if his development does not hit a stumbling block.
On his debut, he did well and showed he is an intelligent footballer in the box. He still has a way to go and I can see him becoming one of United most prolific goalscorer if his development does not hit a stumbling block.
Also I wonder how many more times people are going to come into this thread telling us to calm down and then remind us of Macheda, just as they were doing last summer with Januzaj.
Do you people think Wilsons career started yesterday or something?
Do you people think Wilsons career started yesterday or something?
Looks like he's been getting posing lessons from RVP.
Obviously he needs to be playing now at a higher level. If he does go on loan I hope it doesn't end up like Rossi's or macheda's loans spells which didn't work out for them at all.
Perhaps giggs will take a job where he can take a few lads on loan!
Develop them a bit and in two or three years they can all come back home
I haven't no, so I'm only going on what little I've seen. Although part of my logic is also based on my view that the prospects of youth talent breaking through to the first team are quite bleak, because we now have to deal with competing with the sugar daddy clubs who are capable of buying their way to the op through expensive transfers. I'm quite sure that we will be forced to take similar measures to keep up with them, which will make first team spots fiercely difficult for youth players to attain. Januzaj is a special talent and will obviously make it, and Powell has a decent chance as well. Beyond that, its going to be very difficult.
rossi was a fantastic young player and was scoring goals for fun for the youth and reserve team circa 2004-2006. no doubt he was always going to be a top player but unfortunately for him we got van nistelrooy, rooney, saha, ole, ronaldo and then tevez came in and i didn;t include alan smith there because he is not good enough. and then of course the newcastle loan move didn;t work so well for him. but he got a second chance when he move to spain, not surprised he is doing ever so well now, just like he did at villareal before because he was so good as a young player. love to see him staring in the world cup this summer.
wilson seems to has the knack of scoring goals just like rossi did before. and he is not only about goals, but he got the ability to actually dribble and his movement off the ball is also good. hope the club will not consider loaning him out, there have been little success with our youngsters going out on loan these days.
wilson seems to has the knack of scoring goals just like rossi did before. and he is not only about goals, but he got the ability to actually dribble and his movement off the ball is also good. hope the club will not consider loaning him out, there have been little success with our youngsters going out on loan these days.
I mean this with no disrespect, but you're not really able to give a decent account as to who's likely to break through and who are the clear stand out talents etc in youth if you don't watch much of it. The same way I can't really give a decent account as to whether or not I think Powell has a decent chance of carving a career here.
For example, Januzaj was head and shoulders above all other players from the academy, it was clear to those who watched him regularly as to how special he was and that if he could translate his performances to first team level then he was bound to make it. Even after he broke through, those people who hadn't watched anything of him was trying to heed caution to us getting excited and tried to remind us about Macheda even though they knew nothing of Adnan.
The same trend seems to be happening here. For me, Wilson is the standout player at reserve level and the one player I would personally put into the special category of young talent. For me, he's about as nailed on as you can get from an academy player to make it at this club. He's no Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar level wonderkid talent. But he sure is a talent and I'm very confident that he will make it here. Not that I class myself as the leading authority of youth players to make it here but I'm almost as certain that he will make it as I was with Januzaj last year and I'd be very happy if Hernandez left to pave way for Wilson to take his place. Not that I think Wilson is currently a better player than Hernandez, but their circumstances are different and Hernandez is too good to just be rotting on the bench, whereas for Wilson it would be a fantastic opportunity.
Yes, I agree on the whole it's hard to judge whether or not a youth player can make it, especially at a club like ours. But there will always be those special players like Pogba, Januzaj, Morrison etc who you just know that they have "it" and for me Wilson falls into that category and I think he's good enough to not need a loan just like the others mentioned.
You didn't see Wilson at his best last night, of course not, by the time we actually started to play football he was subbed off. But what you did see was him take 2 chances, for a seasoned pro it might seem like the easiest chances in the world, but for an 18 year old who was only playing u18s at the beginning of the season to now take those chances in front of 75,000 people under that kind of pressure is immense. He's not a poacher by any stretch of the imagination, unlike Hernandez he can actually create chances from nothing, he can take players on, he can shoot from anywhere really and has great accuracy. He's going to be a star, that I'm certain of.
If he makes it he makes it. If he doesn't, he doesn't. We'll see over the next few years.
Hopefully for him and United that he does and becomes a top player for the club.
Guilty as charged your honour. I used to be, but my love for football has seriously waned over the last 10 years and with it all the smaller parts of it. I used to take great delight in being able to reel off every player for every club that was in europe, and I wanted to know everything about United- not any more though. I couldn't even reel off all the english clubs players anymore. So even though I am guilty, I do agree with you. But to be honest, I just can't be arsed with knowing every little thing anymore.
My thoughts too. The commentator when it happened was having a go at him saying he has to be putting those away but from what I saw he connected well and it was going in the bottom corner if not for the great block.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. He's being cnutish with the "supporters" bit.
Agreed. I'm a big follower of our youth team, but I wouldn't expect everyone else to be as passionate about the youngsters as me.
Maybe if people realised just how talented some of the kids were, they might take more interest but it's certainly no disgrace for people to not be aware. Although I would advise people to take a trip to the youth forum from time to time, they can learn a lot and watch some good videos.
I think this lad is for real. Could be our best homegrown attacker since Scholesy.
Insightful post and some good perspective
Yep. Januzaj and Wilson were the two standout young players in the last few years. Not much doubt Wilson will make it imo.
Here ya go.
Good post, but to be honest i'm not basing my view on how much or little I've seen him play, but more so on the dynamics of United competing with City, Chelsea, (and Arse/Pool) in the sugar daddy era. Whether or not certain youth players are given a chance is going to be based less on how good they are and more so on what our squad priorities to win trophies. Wilson could end up being a very good player who never makes it at United (by making it I mean being a consistent starting XI player), if our new manager buys most of his players from the outside in order to get a squad capable of competing with City, Chelsea, Madrid, PSG, etc.
From the video above and the many times I have see him, have come to the conclusion that he plays like the Brazilian Ronaldo. He is like no other striker that I can compare to.
He has pace, power, elegance with the ball, has a goal poacher characteristic, he gets involved in the making of play, he has the inelegance that is seen in very few strikers. He breezes past players.
He has pace, power, elegance with the ball, has a goal poacher characteristic, he gets involved in the making of play, he has the inelegance that is seen in very few strikers. He breezes past players.
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Ronaldo the best finisher ever, a lot to live up to.
Please take 10 mins out of your day to compare the two videos and you will see a lot of things similar that you really see in other strikers. Of course there are things different, they are different players. But there is a striking resemblance.
Great video I thought Id seen most of Ronaldos goals but theres actually quite a few on that Id never seen before
I really think Wilson has a future, have been watching him for over a year. But it's scary the way this thread has gone, can we let him make his 2nd appearance.
He scored 2 goals, so it's obviously a fine performance. Now we need to see how good the rest of his game is.
He reminds me of Fernando Torres, back when Torres still played football.