James Rodriguez

My point is, Real Madrid treats players like shiny toys to showoff.. Yes, Ozil started good for Arsenal, and then had a dip in form, where Bale started not so great and build up to get better.. the point is they already had a World Class attacking creative midfielder, and then they spent 100M to get a new one... yes Bale is a bit better than Ozil, but is that difference worth 100M€ .. I don't think so... I may be biased cause personally I .. well kinda despise both Real and Barcelona... same goes for now tweaking the team, to get James.. Let's say it will be Falcao or Benzema up front, with Bale, Ronaldo and James who all now must play, with such an offensive lineup, against stronger teams, real could be overrun in midfield... luxury signing, and it proves how much of a waste it was to sign Isco, better to leave him in Mallaga where he would play...

On the other hand, I can only be envious and congratulate Real on getting Kroos, that's a player who in my view is an improvement, even thou Modric, Khedira and Xabi Alonso are world class players, but with Xabi's years, brilliant move to get Kroos...

:lol:
 
I wonder if Ancelotti actually thinks about moving CR into the striker position and drop the unloved Benzema instead.

Xabi
Modric -- Kroos
James -- Ronaldo -- Bale​

Would be interesting to see if Ancelotti could make it work with Ronnie as a striker.
Replace Xabi with Vidal.. You know that is happening.
la elevenima
 
Benzema
Ronaldo - Rodriguez - Bale
Midfield
Course he'll get in their team
what with a midfield needing to accommodate kroos, Modric, Alonso,, not to mention di maria kedhira, Isco,

he'll get games but i'll be suprised if he is first choice.
 
what with a midfield needing to accommodate kroos, Modric, Alonso,, not to mention di maria kedhira, Isco,

he'll get games but i'll be suprised if he is first choice.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Alonso seeing less game time this season, Di Maria will be off & he'll be ahead of Isco in the pecking order rightly or wrongly.
 
Are Barcelona really the same as Madrid? I certainly dont see them selling/signing a player for the sake of it. They seem to be always looking to improve the team. Suarez is an upgrade to Sanchez and can do everything Alexis can but better.
 
Are Barcelona really the same as Madrid? I certainly dont see them selling/signing a player for the sake of it. They seem to be always looking to improve the team. Suarez is an upgrade to Sanchez and can do everything Alexis can but better.
Yep, they certainly didn't do it with Eto'o to get Ibrahimovic.
 
Yep, they certainly didn't do it with Eto'o to get Ibrahimovic.

They did that because Madrid spent the summer buying Ronaldo, Xabi etc.

I'm almost certain the two clubs base their transfer strategy on trying to outdo one another in terms of marquee signings.
 
Are Barcelona really the same as Madrid? I certainly dont see them selling/signing a player for the sake of it. They seem to be always looking to improve the team. Suarez is an upgrade to Sanchez and can do everything Alexis can but better.

I have a hard time seeing Neymar-Messi-Suarez combination be as successful as it promises on paper, but we'll see. It will be interesting to see if Suarez will be in his element playing in a wider position and if he can turn the trend since most of their offensive signings in recent years have failed to build up a successful partnership with Messi and eventually suffered in his shadow.
 
They did that because Madrid spent the summer buying Ronaldo, Xabi etc.

I'm almost certain the two clubs base their transfer strategy on trying to outdo one another in terms of marquee signings.

Agreed.
 
Are Barcelona really the same as Madrid? I certainly dont see them selling/signing a player for the sake of it. They seem to be always looking to improve the team. Suarez is an upgrade to Sanchez and can do everything Alexis can but better.
What player have madrid signed that wont improve the team?
 
They did that because Madrid spent the summer buying Ronaldo, Xabi etc.

I'm almost certain the two clubs base their transfer strategy on trying to outdo one another in terms of marquee signings.
As long as we keep challenging on all fronts and we get a marqee signing each summer I don't know why I should mind though. It's a transfer muppet's dream tbh.
 
Are Barcelona really the same as Madrid? I certainly dont see them selling/signing a player for the sake of it. They seem to be always looking to improve the team. Suarez is an upgrade to Sanchez and can do everything Alexis can but better.
Not completely true. Sanchez is faster than Suarez. And is more suited for that RW role.
 
What player have madrid signed that wont improve the team?

Rodriguez if you get him i dont think is as balanced as having Di Maria.

I have a hard time seeing Neymar-Messi-Suarez combination be as successful as it promises on paper, but we'll see. It will be interesting to see if Suarez will be in his element playing in a wider position and if he can turn the trend since most of their offensive signings in recent years have failed to build up a successful partnership with Messi and eventually suffered in his shadow.

Not completely true. Sanchez is faster than Suarez. And is more suited for that RW role.

They may well use messi and Neymar behind Suarez. Which means suarez doesn't need to play wide at all.Messi plays behind a striker for Argentina these days and gets by alright.

Yep, they certainly didn't do it with Eto'o to get Ibrahimovic.

Eto'o had some issues with Pep didnt he? Ibra was fine for half a season. Messi becoming the false nine god is what ruined his season. That would have happened to Etoo too.

What im trying to say is Madrid continuously buy good players regardless of wether there is room for them or not.
 
I actually agree that with Suarez, Barca have essentially 'done a Madrid'. I don't think they bought him with a specific role in mind, or a specific weakness in the team. They've been struggling a little, so they bought the best attacking player money could buy.

That doesn't change the fact that that's a one-off for Barcelona, who normally only spend big money in a directed, considered way. Madrid splash out like that every season these days.
 
Are Barcelona really the same as Madrid? I certainly dont see them selling/signing a player for the sake of it. They seem to be always looking to improve the team. Suarez is an upgrade to Sanchez and can do everything Alexis can but better.

No he can't, they are very different players.

Sanchez is much, much quicker and I'd say a more effective winger. I really don't think they need him at all. They need defenders. I don't see how Neymar, Suarez and Messi are all going to play together but I guess we'll see.
 
I actually agree that with Suarez, Barca have essentially 'done a Madrid'. I don't think they bought him with a specific role in mind, or a specific weakness in the team. They've been struggling a little, so they bought the best attacking player money could buy.

That doesn't change the fact that that's a one-off for Barcelona, who normally only spend big money in a directed, considered way. Madrid splash out like that every season these days.

Song was a pointless signing. Don't get why they signed Mascherano either instead of someone who could actually play CB. Ibrahimovic was a ridiculous signing as well.
 
Song was a pointless signing. Don't get why they signed Mascherano either instead of someone who could actually play CB. Ibrahimovic was a ridiculous signing as well.

They have a weird blind spot about buying CBs, preferring to buy perfectly good midfielders and try and convert them for some reason. But they are still technically buying to try and solve a specific problem, not just nabbing all the best players in the world.

Ibrahimovic I'll give you though. That one was just bizarre. Everyone and his mum knew he'd never fit in there.
 
Rodriguez if you get him i dont think is as balanced as having Di Maria.





They may well use messi and Neymar behind Suarez. Which means suarez doesn't need to play wide at all.Messi plays behind a striker for Argentina these days and gets by alright.



Eto'o had some issues with Pep didnt he? Ibra was fine for half a season. Messi becoming the false nine god is what ruined his season. That would have happened to Etoo too.

What im trying to say is Madrid continuously buy good players regardless of wether there is room for them or not.
If Madrid keep pretty much the exact team from last year then people will criticise Madrid once they lose for being like Barcelona and for not making changes. I agree that it would be better and safer to keep di maria, but we have no idea how the team will play or how good it will be next season. The caf reacts negatively to almost everything other clubs do when it comes to signings, especially Madrid and barca. I would also say that everytime di maria signs a new contract that his form dips and there is no guarantee he will be as good next year but I still hope he stays.
 
They have a weird blind spot about buying CBs, preferring to buy perfectly good midfielders and try and convert them for some reason. But they are still technically buying to try and solve a specific problem, not just nabbing all the best players in the world.

Ibrahimovic I'll give you though. That one was just bizarre. Everyone and his mum knew he'd never fit in there.

That's true. Still weird though, its not like Song was even particularly good. He had a decent season for Arsenal in which he was better at assisting RvP than defending so it made pretty much no sense.
 
Wouldn't be surprised to see Alonso seeing less game time this season, Di Maria will be off & he'll be ahead of Isco in the pecking order rightly or wrongly.
i'd still expect madrid to play some kind of holding player, so it will be either alonso, Khedira or Illarramendi(probably alonso for the big games). then their not gonna drop modric as he was their sensational last season and ancelotti loves him, i can't see kroos been left out, thier not gonna leave out bale or ronaldo, and they need a striker.

so yeah Rodriguez will get games, but won't be first choice. just smacks of madrid buying a flavour of the months rather then whats best for thier squad
 
Rodriguez will most certainly be a starter for Madrid. He's already one of the best CAMs in the world and they'll make him even better playing alongside Kroos, Modric, Bale, CR7 and Benzema. And Falcao if they get him.

Di Maria and Isco look to be off. Which is madness to me as I think ADM is one of the best in the world. He's even better at CM in my opinion.

Imagine being able to ship world class players like Ozil and Di Maria off in favor of other world class players... Real Madrid's freedom in the transfer market actually disgusts me but you have to admire the star-studded team they're building.
 
Rodriguez will most certainly be a starter for Madrid. He's already one of the best CAMs in the world and they'll make him even better playing alongside Kroos, Modric, Bale, CR7 and Benzema. And Falcao if they get him.

Di Maria and Isco look to be off. Which is madness to me as I think ADM is one of the best in the world. He's even better at CM in my opinion.

Imagine being able to ship world class players like Ozil and Di Maria off in favor of other world class players... Real Madrid's freedom in the transfer market actually disgusts me but you have to admire the star-studded team they're building.

...and dismantling. At the same time.
 
Song was a pointless signing. Don't get why they signed Mascherano either instead of someone who could actually play CB. Ibrahimovic was a ridiculous signing as well.

Ibra had a very successful start to his short career at Barca, I think he broke some record for scoring 11 goals in his first ten games or something like that and he definitely gelled well with the team footballing-wise. Obviously in hind-sight it turned out to be a disastrous signing for them and one that they didn't need with Messi moving into the central role.
 
No he can't, they are very different players.

Sanchez is much, much quicker and I'd say a more effective winger. I really don't think they need him at all. They need defenders. I don't see how Neymar, Suarez and Messi are all going to play together but I guess we'll see.

Everyone and his dog complain that Barcelona didnt have a true center forward anymore or a plan B. They go and purchase one of the best strikers around and people still complain.The guy can also play on either wing if needed - he is easily the better player to have than Sanchez for me.
 
Everyone and his dog complain that Barcelona didnt have a true center forward anymore or a plan B. They go and purchase one of the best strikers around and people still complain.The guy can also play on either wing if needed - he is easily the better player to have than Sanchez for me.

He's a better player than Sanchez, no doubt but a better winger? If they play him out wide he's wasted and won't fit that position as well as Sanchez. If they move Messi out wide then that could annoy him.

Did they? Barca going forward are excellent. Their problems are a declining midfield which with Rakitic they have begun to fix and a terrible defense. Is Suarez a Plan B?
 
Are Barcelona really the same as Madrid? I certainly dont see them selling/signing a player for the sake of it. They seem to be always looking to improve the team. Suarez is an upgrade to Sanchez and can do everything Alexis can but better.
Yeah Zlatan and that Ukrainian defender sure put a dent in that..
 
Real and Perez are scary when it comes to the transfer window, they basically sign whoever they want (except Neymar). James' transfer was done swiftly with no fuss at all. Hes a great talent though I dont feel that Real needed him plus they are not exactly known for nurturing young talent so lets see how his career progresses.
 
We won't play 4-2-3-1 with Kroos and Modric in double pivot. Maybe at some point against la liga minnows, but that's not going to happen against any half decent opposition. Ronaldo won't even be fit when season starts so James will play in his place.
 
We won't play 4-2-3-1 with Kroos and Modric in double pivot. Maybe at some point against la liga minnows, but that's not going to happen against any half decent opposition. Ronaldo won't even be fit when season starts so James will play in his place.

Kroos will slow down your counter attacking football if played as a 10 or leave you defensively exposed if played as a 6.

Will be interesting how you accomodate these 2 as Di Maria's workrate last season was crucial as well and Rodriguez right now won't give that. Actually, Rodriguez out wide right now is half the player, though you can give him the Ronaldo type free roaming role in which he will be fine.
 
Kroos will slow down your counter attacking football if played as a 10 or leave you defensively exposed if played as a 6.

Will be interesting how you accomodate these 2 as Di Maria's workrate last season was crucial as well and Rodriguez right now won't give that. Actually, Rodriguez out wide right now is half the player, though you can give him the Ronaldo type free roaming role in which he will be fine.

I'm going to answer to your comment by quoting a guy from our forum:

Judging by the player and his sky high potential, James is a great signing and I can't wait to see what he will accomplish in Madrid!

Judging by our system, and how he will fit in our tactic considering all our other players...pffff...I would shoot myself

:D

Fun times ahead...
 
Wow they have actually got him. So Rodriguez and Kroos so far already this summer.

Madrid are far ahead of us tbh. I hate them but I think they are the biggest club in the world by some distance. They just get whoever they want at whatever price. Plus I have rarely seen a player resisting a move when Real Madrid have come calling. Its almost like once they try to sign a player, the player himself forces a move.

So with all this talk about no fixed budget, we are huge, etc, we really need to up our game because the clubs that don't reinforcements are now having a better window than us. I know there is plenty of time but after last season, we should be getting it done as early as possible.
 
Who would have thought Monaco would have made a profit, let alone double their money?

£71m is being report, insane..
 
Real and Perez are scary when it comes to the transfer window, they basically sign whoever they want (except Neymar). James' transfer was done swiftly with no fuss at all. Hes a great talent though I dont feel that Real needed him plus they are not exactly known for nurturing young talent so lets see how his career progresses.
Neymar was always difficult because they were going head to head with the second biggest club. Plus all the complicated payments in the deal. But I have rarely seen them rejected by a player or even lose out on player. Even with Bale last season, though the transfer took place very late in the window, it was almost a given that Bale would be a Madrid player before the window closes.
 
...and dismantling. At the same time.
Exactly.

They were a star-studded team with so much star quality in pretty much every position last season, so signing players like Kroos and Rodriguez who are perhaps, marginally improvements on what they have currently isn't necessarily a positive. When you have a side like Madrid and Barcelonas, you are playing with fine margins for who will come out on top and not which team has better players. You have to factor in management, rotation, balance, etc, and Madrid's might be questionable next season.

It looks likely Madrid will line up with a front six of Modric, Kroos, Bale, Rodriguez, Ronaldo and Benzema last season. As I alluded to, that front six might be an improvement on the midfield and attack the predominantly used last season, but it looks horribly unbalanced and as a consequence, it wouldn't surprise me to see the team perform to a slightly lower standard next season. They have an incredible manager with Ancelotti, so if there is one manager to integrate a star-studded side it's him. I just think di Maria's high-octane game, as well as defensive contribution will prove to be sorely missed the next season. A vital player who really made Ancelotti's latest system work and they won't be able to compensate for his loss with anyone else in the team. As well, as a midfield two of Kroos and Modric, which is too lightweight and attack-minded, even if Modric is very impressive defensively.

Some are suggesting that a front three of Neymar, Messi and Suarez is the best attack the world has ever seen. That might be the case on paper - it's certainly up there - but it remains to be seen how they will perform as an attacking unit with some likely to play out of position or the team to deploy a completely different formation with a 4-1-2-1-2 to accommodate each player in their favourite position. It's a shift in system for Barcelona that could have some sort of consequence seeing as they've used the same formation for years. It could have some bearing and I have reservations over whether there attack will work to many peoples expectations, though it will still be stunning.

Both Barcelona and Madrid are likely to be two of the top three or four European sides next season and both strive for perfection - particularly the latter - but it may actually have an adverse effect. Madrid in particular are dismantling a perfectly good set-up.