Because for a change it would be nice to have a specialist. Martial, Mata, Mkhitaryan, Lingard and Rashford are the players that have played in the wings for us but none them is a winger. James will just add to the number of players not playing in their best position. He can perform from the right but we all know he does his best work as a 10.
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Because for a change it would be nice to have a specialist. Martial, Mata, Mkhitaryan, Lingard and Rashford are the players that have played in the wings for us but none them is a winger. James will just add to the number of players not playing in their best position. He can perform from the right but we all know he does his best work as a 10.
Well that's a bit of nonsense. James is a #10 and Real Madrid don't even actually play with one, which creates half the problem. The only player similar to him at Real Madrid is Isco so if you want to be pedantic, James is the 2nd best in his position at Real.
He is still widely considered among the best #10s in the world, top 10 easily and probably top 5. It's not that long ago that RM spent €70m to sign him. It's his bad luck that the team he is in has 2 world class #10s without even playing with one.
Are you on a troll there? So much bs in one post is quite sth.
Believe me, only Man United fans think he's the best keeper in the world. There's Neuer, Courtois, Oblak, Donnarumma all on similar level to him. Navas is also brilliant but doesn't get the recognition he deserves. Calling DDG the best in that company is purely subjective.
But even if DDG was the best in the world, that's not really how it works on the transfer market. A goal keeper, no matter how good is never going to be valued as much as outfield player who is already a world superstar, who will be assisting and scoring wonder goals, selling shirts and increasing the value of the whole brand. The fact that he was sitting on Real Madrid bench before he was bought will be forgotten in one month if he starts delivering.
Your acting like we are in a bubble and don't speak to other fans lol. De Gea is far above those mentioned except for Neuer. We see Courtois in our league every week. He is very efficient but not De Gea's level.
You're talking like there's an automatic price.
If Madrid want him, they will have to pay what we ask for.
If De Gea wants to go, i would take him in a double deal including Morata and James, with De Gea and some money going the other way.
Otherwise i would be fine with making a 100m offer for James and Morata, spend the Griezmann money on them
Otherwise i would be fine with making a 100m offer for James and Morata, spend the Griezmann money on them
That's not how the market works at all. He's a world class GK, has a 3 year contract, we don't want to sell him and we certainly don't need the money. We set the price and then it's up to Real to either pay or stfu. James reportedly wants out and Real probably don't mind selling, so it's a completely different situation that has nothing to do with their position on the pitch.
Personally, I think people repeatedly conflate his best season in a position with his best role. James is one of those players like Neymar, Messi and Suarez who is world class in more than one role. And tbh when it comes to attacking specislization is abit overrated. The only thing that should matter is how well and often a given player can create play and put the ball in an opponents net. And as of now goal scoring is what is killing us. Not lack of specialisation. James would significantly upgrade our goal threat IMO. For that reason alone I'd sign him
I already explained some time ago, your views are distorted, but I get it. DDG is your prized asset and it's again Real Madrid coming for him (hopefully not), so you get a little defensive and a little offended. It's all good and you can call me a troll and quote my posts with green smiley faces, but when autumn comes we'll see who's right.
At the end of the day, I'm offering arguments to why I think that way and there's also zero examples in the past to go in line with your thinking. All you people offer is "he's the best (which is not a given fact), so let's charge 100 mil € for him and Madrid will just have to pay it."
They won't have to, they'll try to lower the price to reasonable level and if it doesn't work they'll probably try to unsettle the player and make him push for the transfer and then we'll see what happens. DDG doesn't seam like the type willing to sulk and go that far just to move to Madrid, so hopefully he stays in Manchester and everyone will be happy (except for Florentino Perez
).I get your point and you might be right. However, if he can't get along with stars, what happens if Zlatan stays on for another year? What happens when we win the league and start bringing in more stars to challenge for the CL?
(Well, it's all just conjecture, I must admit)You mean, who will I rather have instead of James? I can't give a good reply here, sorry mate. I have never been good at being an amateur scout (maybe that's why I'm clueless at the "Fantasy" games). I could discuss all day why I think a proposed player would be good for our team or not but I would be totally unable to suggest a name myself
I see James as being very similar to Coutinho at Liverpool, albeit with a different dominant foot.
You'd have to be excited if we signed him really given hes only 26 has looked very good at Madrid. My only concern is whether you could play him and Mikhi in the same team.
You'd have to be excited if we signed him really given hes only 26 has looked very good at Madrid. My only concern is whether you could play him and Mikhi in the same team.
Bizzarly their logic is that he's on the Real bench, so he can't make our first XI.
It's better seeing James step in when Mkhitaryan is off form than watching Lingard in between the pockets.
Simple, do not play Mhkitaryan
Jesus Christ lad go back to bed before sprouting more nonesense.
They can comfortably play in the same 11. Even with Mata
I'd like to see what this team could do certainly
Rashford
James Mata Mikhi
Pogba Herrera
Shaw Rojo Bailly Valencia
DDG
I already explained some time ago, your views are distorted, but I get it. DDG is your prized asset and it's again Real Madrid coming for him (hopefully not), so you get a little defensive and a little offended. It's all good and you can call me a troll and quote my posts with green smiley faces, but when autumn comes we'll see who's right.
At the end of the day, I'm offering arguments to why I think that way and there's also zero examples in the past to go in line with your thinking. All you people offer is "he's the best (which is not a given fact), so let's charge 100 mil € for him and Madrid will just have to pay it."
They won't have to, they'll try to lower the price to reasonable level and if it doesn't work they'll probably try to unsettle the player and make him push for the transfer and then we'll see what happens. DDG doesn't seam like the type willing to sulk and go that far just to move to Madrid, so hopefully he stays in Manchester and everyone will be happy (except for Florentino Perez
Not going to insult you, or claim DDG as the greatest keeper of all time, but the reason he'd go for more is simply he's our prized asset, and we don't want to sell, so anyone bidding for a player who's team don't want to lose him, or need the money from the sale... will need to go above market price.
James on the other hand is surplus to requirements and Real have been actively trying hard to sell him for 2 years now, which would also potentially lower his value.
DDG also showed 2 summers back that he won't ask to leave, or cause a fuss to force a move to Real, so lets not bring that up.
My problem about him isn't only his (explicable) absence from the bench, but also how easily he was displaced in the pecking order by Isco (non-galactico).
Skills are developped on the training field, but overall you can't improve as a footballer only on the training field, you need to play real macthes. And play more often at the top level for the top players.
Ahh look... you said 433You mean, who will I rather have instead of James? I can't give a good reply here, sorry mate. I have never been good at being an amateur scout (maybe that's why I'm clueless at the "Fantasy" games). I could discuss all day why I think a proposed player would be good for our team or not but I would be totally unable to suggest a name myself
Who do you see in them positions. Surely you have some idea as its the formation you hope we play.
Nothing with Rashford as our starting striker.
First part is just nonsense, he's widely considered to be as good as any keeper on the planet. Second highlighter part is just nonsense.
It doesn't matter what he is perceived to be worth. United do not need the money and can't replace him with someone who is as good or better. If Real want him they'll have to pay stupid money.
James sits on the bench and his value is decreasing. If they don't sell him this summer his value will plummet next summer.
Rashford will be a brilliant striker if we can bring in some attacking players that would create chances and give him better working conditions. Bring in James and Alexis Sanchez, then we would have a strike force of:
Rashford
Sanchez - James - Mkhi
Pogba - Herrera
Well, that's because I think with Mourinho's tactics and the personnel we have right now, that's the system which would be the most effective. I also think we have not seen the best from our world-record buy due to his position in the "2" of the 4-2-3-1; he has been much more effective playing in 4-3-3.
We are in the top 4 for creating chances and number 1 for big chances missed. Rashford scoring only 5 league goals played a big part in that. We would just become Arsenal with that line up
Based on what? He only managed 5 goals in the league last season.
He also scored 4 goals in his first two games for us?
At 19, he could well be a seriously top player. Or, he could go completely the other way.
I don't necessarily agree with Wallez in regards to that dream team, but in a better footballing team I do think Rashford would rack up better numbers.
Your logic just as odd? Wanting a player who probably won't be cheap and would weigh heavy on our wage-bill just because he is an improvement over a couple of players, neither of whom normally plays in his best position. We shouldn't just go for him because he's available, I hope Mourinho identifies exactly how and where he would fit in first. If we are to start challenging for the league again we can't just buy and then experiment. Considering Perisic, I admit I not having seen much of him but if we are truly in for him then I guess there is a clear plan how he will be used.
And I have not even taken into account your assumption, which is the very basis of one of my concerns with him: to me if we do sign up James, we shouldn't play him on the wing, so I fear he's not exactly what we need.
All that proves is that he's inconsistent, which is exactly why he shouldn't be starting.
In that case Perez should try to sign one of those instead, it's more costly to buy from clubs who have lots of money, that's pretty obvious. No?
Buffon was close to a world record transfer in the early 00s.
In the CL final, Real didn't use wing forwards in their 4-3-3 because their fullbacks were supplying the width. Isco played #10 with a free role between the CF pair (Ronaldo and Benzema) and the CM pair (Modric and Kroos). Real scored 4 goals against Juventus and 106 goals in 38 league matches because their best attacking players could play centrally while their FBs provided the width in their attack. Playing with only one FB that ventures past the center line, and that FB is so one footed he is incapable of adding anything of significance to the attack, is a major contributing factor to United's 54 goal in 38 league match embarrassment.
I would love to see James and Morata at United even if it costs DDG. But James has to be #10 behind a CF pair (Morata and Rashford would work really well with James at #10 IMO) with FBs supplying width to fully utilize his skillset and the skillset of CMs Pogba and Herrara. Maintaining width in the attack without pulling our best attacking players out of central positions would add at least 20 goals to last season's total IMO.
I would love to see James and Morata at United even if it costs DDG. But James has to be #10 behind a CF pair (Morata and Rashford would work really well with James at #10 IMO) with FBs supplying width to fully utilize his skillset and the skillset of CMs Pogba and Herrara. Maintaining width in the attack without pulling our best attacking players out of central positions would add at least 20 goals to last season's total IMO.
With them 5 in midfield even I would be a fine striker. Rashford has a lot of potential but it is still at the point that it can go either way.
Trust me, I'd take both of them before DDG, but one is Atletico player (in a summer when they have a transfer ban) and the other is mannaged by Raiola so it's also not an option.
Well, guess Perez will have to come up with some serious cash if he wants a new keeper then, I doubt United, Bayern or Chelsea are going to accept any "reasonable" bid of their keeper.
It is not a bad idea but this would require a complete overhaul of your team as we're talking about two new fullbacks, James, Morata, and somebody to play the Casemiro role. And even then its somewhat doubtful whether Herrera/Pogba is really the CM pairing you want in this setup as it is critical that the CMs be tactically superior players who can control matches and almost never turn the ball over in possession, which is huge trouble if your fullbacks are pushed up the field and you only have two CBs and a DM behind the ball. Your team is built around the pairing of Pogba, a fantastic player but one whose instinct will always be to get forward and try to pull things off, and Herrera, a player with many great qualities but whose positional awareness and carefulness with the ball are not his strengths. I'm not sure you can just switch to a tactic that requires them to be like Modric and Kroos, players less offensively dynamic and who cover less ground but whose positioning, tactical nous, and carefulness in possession is far superior.
I'd give Navas another season and then resign Pacheco if he continues like this season. A good keeper is good enough. Doesn't have to be the best in the world.
That's all very well, but not how Perez operates, is it?
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