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I understood what they were trying to do

It was just dull and sleep inducing

Quite unlike Casino Royale, where you equally understood what they were doing, but that was a far better, far tighter and altogether more enjoyable viewing experience
 
I just didn't really follow it ...Shame though, cos the girl was absolutely stunning. Even better than Lauren from Eastenders...er..I mean Eva Green :nervous:
 
B Cantona said:
I understood what they were trying to do

It was just dull and sleep inducing

Quite unlike Casino Royale, where you equally understood what they were doing, but that was a far better, far tighter and altogether more enjoyable viewing experience
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Thats fair enough, it wasn't everybodies cup of tea and you are probably right in saying the plot was a little too overblown. I still liked it but to each his own. I found it better after my second viewing and I think most might.
 
BAMSOLA said:
Thats fair enough, it wasn't everybodies cup of tea and you are probably right in saying the plot was a little too overblown. I still liked it but to each his own. I found it better after my second viewing and I think most might.
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As opposed to things like "Living Daylights" and "Moonraker" which were just out-and-out shit movies.
 
Mockney was right earlier, by far the worst Bond movie ever is Die Another Day.

Not only does it contain that ridiculous invisble car but also a henchman with the name Mr Kill. That's not even clever.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Mockney was right earlier, by far the worst Bond movie ever is Die Another Day.

Not only does it contain that ridiculous invisble car but also a henchman with the name Mr Kill. That's not even clever.
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I called one of my henchmen Mr. Kill and it's supposed be scary, not clever, ffs
 
Mockney said:
....Everyone knows who is is. Everyone. He's terrible.

Incidentally, The Man With The Golden Gun is on iTV now. Quality Street. Roger Moore's Eyebrows > Brando.
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The man with the golden gun is one of my faves, isnt this the oen with the hatchback that turns into a plane.
 
Die Another Day is definitely the worst Bond film. It had Madonna in it for crying out loud.

As for Quantum of Solace, it should be directly compared first and foremost to Casino Royale, which managed to be far more interesting despite them fannying around with a poker game for half the movie AND going on for about 20 minutes after the main plot was resolved. Not good.
 
BAMSOLA said:
I liked Quantum of Solace mainly because I can understand what they are trying to do with the franchise alongside Casino Royale(Bond begins if you like).

Should I leave my door open so you can pay me a visit?
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I liked what they were doing with it and enjoyed Casino Royale, but Quantum was just awfully boring and it was like the director had watched the Bourne trilogy and thought to himself 'hm, I like the camera work on that, I'll try that myself'.
 
I don't think James Bond cares about what you say about him. He gets to drive an Aston Martin and kiss hot girls.
 
One thing I will say is that I think Goldfinger is horribly overrated, that it is not much better than many of the cliche riddled entries that would occasionally enter the lexicon as once you strip away the DB5 and the girl sufficated by paint etc. the story is pretty weak and the villain a buffoon.

From Russia with Love before it and Thunderball after are both much stronger entries.
 
GoldenEye is still the best game though...we can surely all agree on that?...And obviously Brosnon's best film. But that isn't really a challenge unfortunately. Shame though, I thought he was quite a good Bond, he had the right look and mix of steelyness and smirkiness...he was just in terribly shit films.
 
Mockney said:
GoldenEye is still the best game though...we can surely all agree on that?...And obviously Brosnon's best film. But that isn't really a challenge unfortunately. Shame though, I thought he was quite a good Bond, he had the right look and mix of steelyness and smirkiness...he was just in terribly shit films.
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Definately, Goldeneye proved to be a false dawn for Bond as it was a very strong entry to be followed by five films which to average out would be so-so. On paper the storyline overviews of the Brosnan films were encouraging though they were poorly executed with too much emphasis on set pieces - Die Another Day was basically a collection of nothing new stunt sequences with dialogue in between, talk about ruining a premise.

If they put as much emphasis on story and character development on Brosnan's films as they did on Casino Royale and tried to on Quantum of Solace then the Brosnan films would have been epic.
 
After Inceptions ripping off of On her Majestys Secret Service ski scene. Tom Hardy for next Bond I reckon.
 
Mockney said:
I just didn't really follow it ...Shame though, cos the girl was absolutely stunning. Even better than Lauren from Eastenders...er..I mean Eva Green :nervous:
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:lol:

I'd post pics comparing the two, but I'd probably end up being banned. Eva Green is definitely an adult version of Lauren though.

Casino Royale was a far superior film to Quantum of Solace, which was so tedious and long winded that I was too out of it to bust one out when Olga Kurylenko was on screen.

Roger Moore is an underrated Bond though imo.
 
Mockney said:
GoldenEye is still the best game though...we can surely all agree on that?...And obviously Brosnon's best film. But that isn't really a challenge unfortunately. Shame though, I thought he was quite a good Bond, he had the right look and mix of steelyness and smirkiness...he was just in terribly shit films.
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N64 Goldeneye, full on carnage.
 
Raees said:
Roger Moore is an underrated Bond though imo.
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If the sixties films weren't rated so highly then Connery as Bond wouldn't be held in such esteem, the problem with Moore is that his films were so up and down; Live and Let Die was good, Man with the Golden Gun was dire, The Spy who Loved Me was great, Moonraker was pathetic etc. etc.
 
Quantum at least had Gemma Arterton and Olga Kurylenko. They were pretty much the only plus points in the movie.
 
Moore is often derided as pure cheese but he's not. He could do cold hard killer with the best of them, he just hammed up the one liners to such an extent that they're what he's remembered for. And as GB said, like Brosnan, he didn't get the best stuff to work with...That, and he couldn't run...For Your Eyes Only is a good example of Moore playing it straight to good effect...He suffered from the same problem as Sean in that fake re-make of Thunderball by the end though. He looked too old to be convincing as anything other than a dirty old man. In fact that whole period with both of them in their 50s chasing 20 year old woman in wigs in different bond films was just incredibly sad. If anything Roger pulled it off better than Sean, who'd lost all his hair by then and just looked like he was going to collapse at any minute...Actually, Never Say Never again needs a shout as one of the worst Bond films. It's just utterly pointless, but I'm not sure it counts...and it's not as ridiculous as View to a Kill or Die Another Day

Still, in those cheesy movies, Roger still delivered the lines like a don and better than most of the others could have...I still piss myself at Live and Let Die when Jane Seymore freaks out at a feathered hat on her bed and he goes "nothing to worry about darling, it's just a hat belonging to a small fellow of limited means who lost fight with a chicken"...:lol:...it's just so random it's gold.

God bless you Rog
 
Mockney said:
Moore is often derided as pure cheese but he's not. He could do cold hard killer with the best of them, he just hammed up the one liners to such an extent that they're what he's remembered for. And as GB said, like Brosnan, he didn't get the best stuff to work with...That, and he couldn't run...For Your Eyes Only is a good example of Moore playing it straight to good effect...He suffered from the same problem as Sean in that fake re-make of Thunderball by the end though. He looked too old to be convincing as anything other than a dirty old man. In fact that whole period with both of them in their 50s chasing 20 year old woman in wigs in different bond films was just incredibly sad. If anything Roger pulled it off better than Sean, who'd lost all his hair by then and just looked like he was going to collapse at any minute...Actually, Never Say Never again needs a shout as one of the worst Bond films. It's just utterly pointless, but I'm not sure it counts...and it's not as ridiculous as View to a Kill or Die Another Day

Still, in those cheesy movies, Roger still delivered the lines like a don and better than most of the others could have...I still piss myself at Live and Let Die when Jane Seymore freaks out at a feathered hat on her bed and he goes "nothing to worry about darling, it's just a hat belonging to a small fellow of limited means who lost fight with a chicken"...:lol:...it's just so random it's gold.

God bless you Rog
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Is it even classed has a Bond Film?
I have always said that Sean is the Bond ,best of them all ,BUT Rodger has the best lines and has a quilty that Sean lacked , he could laugh at himself , when he was cast has Bond they must off seen something ,that though he could take the funny lines better than Sean could.
If you watch The Saint with Moore in it he plays the same sort of part .p[lays the hard man but also the comic.
I think the image of Rodgers Bond suffers from some of the worst film's ever , but he did make the best of what he had.
 
Sean is the best. But Brian is right that he got the best films and the others ('specially Rog an Pierce) got landed with some Turkeys...still, he is still the best

gambit28 said:
After Inceptions ripping off of On her Majestys Secret Service ski scene. Tom Hardy for next Bond I reckon.
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I'd support it. He's a better actor than anyone who's ever played the role.
 
I've always been a Dalton man, myself. He reminds of my Dad. Plus, I'm just going to say it, The Living Daylights is up there with from Russia With Love, the Spy Who Loved Me and Goldeneye for my favourite Bond film
 
UBERScholes said:
I've always been a Dalton man, myself. He reminds of my Dad. Plus, I'm just going to say it, The Living Daylights is up there with from Russia With Love, the Spy Who Loved Me and Goldeneye for my favourite Bond film
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No complaints from me, I'd probably throw in Thunderball to complete the top five.
 
Posit: The best Bond film of the 90's was The Rock, with Sean Connery as an aging former British spy who'd been incarcerated by the US. Not technically Bond, but it's up against what, the 2nd and 3rd Brosnan movies?
 
Excal said:
Posit: The best Bond film of the 90's was The Rock, with Sean Connery as an aging former British spy who'd been incarcerated by the US. Not technically Bond, but it's up against what, the 2nd and 3rd Brosnan movies?
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Controversial. Wasn't Connery ex-SAS in The Rock? Plus Bond with a beard, teamed up with Nic Cage, it's just too much of a stretch

Goldeneye was 1995 though, and that was pretty awesome tbf. All downhill from there
 
Here is a piece of Bond trivia for you, whilst Honey Ryder in Dr No was played by Ursula Andress, her voice was dubbed by Nikki van der Zyl, and when she was singing she was dubbed by Diana Coupland.
 
UBERScholes said:
Controversial. Wasn't Connery ex-SAS in The Rock?
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Wikipedia's confused, referring to him as both MI6 and SAS. My recollection is that it wasn't specified. "I was trained by the best. British intelligence."

Plus Bond with a beard, teamed up with Nic Cage, it's just too much of a stretch
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At Connery's age, the beard is pretty much necessary, so I can't fault him for that. As for Cage, he's a slightly nerdy chemical weapons expert while Bond/"Mason" is the bad-ass. Admittedly Cage's role should have been played by, say, Angelina Jolie, but we'll live.

Goldeneye was 1995 though, and that was pretty awesome tbf. All downhill from there
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Thought all the Brosnan movies were kind of shit, tbh. The best of the lot seemed to be Tomorrow Never Dies, and I thought Michelle Yeoh got a fair bit of the credit for that.
 
Quality film. First saw it when I was about 8 or so, I blame Onatopp for a lot of my sexual deviancy that manifested itself in later life.
 
Moonraker on 3 now.

Moore putting his hybrid karate/judo style to good use against a Japanese guy who keeps alternating between "Aaaaaaaaaiiiii" and "Aaaaaaaaagh" with every attack.

Haha. "Play it again Sam"
 
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