There may be some early reports of us paying under, but in general the English media always reports our transfers higher than what they do anyone else. All the other clubs regularly get just the original price reported, while ours instantly gets all the add-ons and bonuses (even ones that will probably never be hit), and quite often they'll even take the figure in euros and report it in pounds (so Sancho will probably start getting reported as 120m pounds after a while).
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Folks adamant that this is because Dortmund have ok'd a replacement.
Folks?
In few cases, player 5 year wages are also added to make the number look very huge.
Or, the entire thread could stop revolving around the fella when he's had a mare.
Maths is hard tbf.
If you’ve been on r/soccer all Dortmund fans’ position is that it isn’t happening and there’s no way they’d sell him, we’re arrogant for even thinking there’s a chance etc. So if it were to happen for the full fee they can’t even come out and be proud of the fee unless they want to completely change their position on the matter.
I think Dortmund will force him to ask to leave.
Transfer requests aren't tied to bonuses. That is a strictly british practice. He effectively already requested a transfer months ago. He stands to lose nothingAnd now that he`s gotten his bonuses he is in a position to submit a transfer request with no bonuses to lose
We've upset another.
Agreed. So what's the problem if Dortmund doesn't want to sell? or they want to sell at the price they want? Players weren't put at gunpoint to sign a 5 yrs contract. Just go sign a 2 years contract then, if you want to move in another 2 years. Or just like Harland, he put a buying clause that everyone agreed to honor.
I don't like players (or his agent) act like a brat if they want to move. Would you like to see that happened at United?
Will be much more smooth sailing with Haaland thanks to that release fee.
They want it guaranteed though and not "if he scores 10 goals with his left foot with one eye shut you get 10m"
If we ponied up a guaranteed fee spread over a few years I'm sure they'd take it. But it would also need to be a big lump up front.
Until he's been cancelled and deemed an unworthy source there's no reason not to post what he says.
People hear different information from different places you know?
Until Real Madrid enters the picture. Which they most certainly will.
Neymar postponed his move to PSG because he wanted to collect bonuses.
If the England appearances bonus is true then he would have been stupid to move any earlier tbh
If Sancho is putting contractual bonuses at Dortmund ahead of the chance to play for us is that the sort of player we want? Maybe I am being very naive but traditionally we have fared better with players who will move heaven and earth to be a United player rather than ready made superstars who join us because we bid the most like Di Maria.
Why should Sancho sacrifice himself 1.5m? If united have said they are happy to wait until that point and then push through with the deal then who cares. If anything it's been better for him to say there longer as they started their season a lot earlier and have been playing more matches and training etc. He will be fitter once he joins.
By most accounts he's more than happy to come and play for us, it's up to united to find the right deal with Dortmund.
What exactly do you want him to do?
Sure. And Neymar's was indeed tied to him not leaving barcelona that season, hence barcelona won the case in court. It's possible it's the same for Sancho
The point is the bonuses aren't tied to transfer requests. That's not something that is done outside of british football
Think United would actually be happy with him taking that approach, if it meant United have to pay lesser to the agent in return.
You are being naive, imo.
Comparing Sancho's attitude to joining us to Di Maria's is an impressive new low for this thread.
No issue if Dortmund don’t want to sell. But they know it will affect their model if they don’t. If Sancho wants to go, and Dortmund don’t let him, they are in their rights to do so - but will likely regret this in the long term.
Jude Bellingham didn’t dream of playing for Dortmund, if he didn’t think he could move to a bigger club in a few years, he wouldn’t go there.
It certainly would not be the first time!
Would you turn down the rumoured £1.5-3m simply to move 4 weeks earlier? No sane person would.
Dortmund put a price on Sancho, it means they don't mind to let him go. And it seems like most in here agreed that 120m isn't an outrageous price.
And you're right about Bellingham. He knows he could move to bigger club by joining Dortmund. So that's a prove that he is aware and likes Dortmund model. Young high potential players won't move to Dortmund if they don't like Dortmund model. So far, Dortmund has been doing right to the eyes of these joining players.
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Give up the money that Dortmund was going to owe him.
Regurgitated story. Didn't Fabrizio Romano say this once before.
Hope there is some positive news today.
Its different because this time Utd themselves have briefed personal terms are done after months of saying the opposite. Its the one excuse they`d have used for the deal not happening if it didnt materialize but its now out the way. Fact that Utd are happy to leak such info to the press shows they`re confident they can get a deal done with BVB
While all your new team mates are in Mykonos or in jail or with national team entertaining half of the icelandic population? Wouldn’t make any sense.
True. Which is why Dortmund will sell. Just a lot of posturing going on at the moment, and it’s stating to play out.
We sold Lukaku last year?
Yeah but it's more the fact this is now a United brief, can't imagine it's something we'd happily come out with if we weren't confident in doing a deal.
Why?
If this thread can go for 1 hour without anyone posting in it, you will sign him.
If can't give the thread an hour of quiet contemplation and you don't get him, it's your own fault.
If can't give the thread an hour of quiet contemplation and you don't get him, it's your own fault.
not entirely, Ducker in his actual article is claiming that Sancho is now pushing the move. Considering this is a direct brief from MUFC, we have officially moved from "Sancho is happy to not agitate a move if the clubs cannot agree" to "Sancho is agitating the move". Also, Romano claiming player terms agreed was not a briefing, we now know direct from the club that a deal has been struck with the player.
There is no way that Monaco's Mbappe was better than Sancho right now.
he was younger with much smaller reputation, still not proven enough, and there were more question marks about making it at the highest level. He didnt have 5 mln instagram followers at the time as Sancho do. And the price was higher because Monaco was 2nd force in Ligue 1 and were selling to the biggest competitors who tried to make a statement to The world with their 400 mln signings. Also BvB is much bigger club then Monaco.
180 looks closer to the current Mbappe's value. I bet that those few years ago none other club would go as high as 100 mln for him.
So IMO when you compare those players at the time their transfers happen to Sancho right now he is #1, and in normal circumstances BVB could easily ask for 150 mln so 120 is Covid discount price.
Great stuff, come on guys - one more hour.
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