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which don't exist in Germany
So no player playing for a German club has ever requested a transfer to leave that club?
which don't exist in Germany
Hah.
I am amazed by how so many people are convinced that this deal didn’t go through earlier because of the 1m bonus he was due for completing 10 England matches. Crazy.
Do elite footballers think that way? If he had joined United last month when the transfer hints were at fever pitch (250k per week, rumoured), he would have already earned way more than 1m (plus sponsors’ addons). If he was really keen on the move, why would he risk ruining the potential transfer for a 1m bonus?
Every week lost in the transfer-window decreases the chance of all parties agreeing on the final deal. The holdup in this transfer is because of how United want to structure their 108m payout (United probably want some Covid discount on top of that), and not because of some silly 1m bonus.
So no player playing for a German club has ever requested a transfer to leave that club?
Maybe this little 1m bonus will make up for what he'll lose if he submitted a transfer request.
Fake news. I've asked for evidence of this and it never materialises.pretty funny obsession you seem to have with the guy. Thing is, he basically gets all of his info from agents/player's camps, while the Stones and Duckers from this world get to report exactly what the club wants them to report. Just because the club briefs something, it doesn't have to be 100% true. It's possible that wages and agent fees were never an issue, but we used that to stall time for one reason or another. We simply don't know.
Romano is not an oracle and people need to stop treating him like that. Remember, agents can use those journalists for their own gain as well. But you painting him as some kind of fraud is laughable, sorry. The guy is well connected and has broken an insane number of news and transfers.
So you think Utd have gone through months and months and months of hard work to buy one of the biggest prospects in world football and one of the most marketable players in the world from agreeing personal terms with the player and agent to dealing with constant shit BVB have thrown at them just at the last minute to say "Naah we wont buy him!!!" just for some grand show? Even that seems to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much of a stretch for even the biggest PR company. It makes no sense for a salesman to put a lot of hard work in a deal with a company to strike a major partnership which he has no intention of entering into a big financial agreement with. Utd have known his price for months and they`ve known BVB won`t drop it even if Sancho asks to leave of course they`ll pay it and they HAVE TO pay if or come next year someone else will and we`ll look like idiots its just a matter of how we structure it as of course not all will be paid at a go/up front.You're out of your mind if you think the Glazers will pay 100m in this pandemic without fans or even knowing if the league could be cancelled due to coronavirus. Don't forget in america the virus has been rampant so they know what could happen in england. In addition, I doubt Sancho worth that much. even Chelsea didn't go for him and he belongs in London.
we can't have 5 minutes of fun before the buzzkills show up
stop disrespecting our long standing muppet culture
Have you not seen how quickly things can change in a transfer saga? I don't know shit about what United is doing, only if they decide to tell the press and my pal gets told and tells me. I'm not Woodward's left bollock.Yesterday
Today:
Yep, you seem legit.
pretty funny obsession you seem to have with the guy. Thing is, he basically gets all of his info from agents/player's camps, while the Stones and Duckers from this world get to report exactly what the club wants them to report. Just because the club briefs something, it doesn't have to be 100% true. It's possible that wages and agent fees were never an issue, but we used that to stall time for one reason or another. We simply don't know.
Romano is not an oracle and people need to stop treating him like that. Remember, agents can use those journalists for their own gain as well. But you painting him as some kind of fraud is laughable, sorry. The guy is well connected and has broken an insane number of news and transfers.
So, despite the claims of loyalty to the club, respect for the fans and forthrightness with the manager, it could be said that the biggest cause of modern footballers’ shyness for transfer requests is the lucrative contractual bonuses they forego by submitting one. In short, a loyalty bonus tends to be spread incrementally over a player’s contract – i.e. 20% each year on a five-year deal.
And now that he`s gotten his bonuses he is in a position to submit a transfer request with no bonuses to loseTransfer request exists and they are tied to loyalty bonuses, when players submits official transfer requests, he won't be getting the bonus.
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...g-a-transfer-request-fourfourtwo-investigates
Sadly nothing he says can be disputed..so this still has some miles to goI like Mitten and I trust him, but that was an unusually depressing one.
Any optimistic question is basically followed up with "yeah but.. this is why the current climate is still shit"
Of course, I was merely refering to posts such as these here
I think there must be clauses where player has to return the bonus if he submits transfer request after getting bonus.And now that he`s gotten his bonuses he is in a position to submit a transfer request with no bonuses to lose
we can't have 5 minutes of fun before the buzzkills show up
stop disrespecting our long standing muppet culture
I don't get this narrative that has grown here on how one journalist gets his info from agents and others just get it from the club. Any decent journalist will speak to numerous people, yes they might be briefed by club but they will also speak to players, agents, other journalists to try and get the fullest picture. Someone on here was saying earlier that players don't speak to journalists on international duty. This is just made up rubbish.pretty funny obsession you seem to have with the guy. Thing is, he basically gets all of his info from agents/player's camps, while the Stones and Duckers from this world get to report exactly what the club wants them to report. Just because the club briefs something, it doesn't have to be 100% true. It's possible that wages and agent fees were never an issue, but we used that to stall time for one reason or another. We simply don't know.
Romano is not an oracle and people need to stop treating him like that. Remember, agents can use those journalists for their own gain as well. But you painting him as some kind of fraud is laughable, sorry. The guy is well connected and has broken an insane number of news and transfers.
Ah so they do exist I’m happy that’s been cleared up.
I don't get this narrative that has grown here on how one journalist gets his info from agents and others just get it from the club. Any decent journalist will speak to numerous people, yes they might be briefed by club but they will also speak to players, agents, other journalists to try and get the fullest picture. Someone on here was saying earlier that players don't speak to journalists on international duty. This is just made up rubbish.
Yes there are some clickbait crap accounts out there, but those associated with the BBC, Gaurdian, The Athletic or Sky for example will speak to or try to speak to loads of different people. To say someone like Stone is just a Man Utd mouthpiece is a bit insulting, the BBC wouldn't be paying him if that was all did.
Mbappe - €180m (€145m plus €35m add-ons)His true value in this market is probably 70-80m pounds...at a stretch 85m pounds. Overpaying by 20m pounds is a lot in this climate.
I'm going to start a separate thread! Don't want to derail the muppetryIronic thing is, these posters think they are some geniuses and sees things that others can'r see, when they don't even know that there are some journalists who are well connected with agents and gets info, that's why they break stories before others.
One best example is Di Marzio, doesn't mean whatever they say will be a completed transfer, No transfer works like that. If that's the case then we have to stop believing ManUtd.com as they reported Ramsey and Ljajic deals but those weren't completed.
Christ, you need to relent on your usage of this term. What self respecting adult utters the word ‘fanboy’?He is going to be most expensive EPL player ever so is going to have to get used to being analysed on his every performance: I know I will and i have high expectations.
If you want to declare yourself already as a protective fanboy, I’d save your typing fingers, you’ll have plenty of opportunities to use them after he is signed!
Interesting take to have considering about 10 journalists, including 3 or 4 very reliable ones, basically ruined his story yesterday through an obvious leak.
Funny thing is people like you are still not seeing it.
It's like a weird cult at this stage, I fear we are fighting a losing battle pal. Seems they can just flip everything around and make him look the don of transfers when it's clear in just this transfer alone that he's gotten it wrong more than once.
He gets asked the same questions every day, I can tell you what he's going to say now before he says it. He's probably sick of transfer season.I like Mitten and I trust him, but that was an unusually depressing one.
Any optimistic question is basically followed up with "yeah but.. this is why the current climate is still shit"
Christ, you need to relent on your usage of this term. What self respecting adult utters the word ‘fanboy’?
He gets asked the same questions every day, I can tell you what he's going to say now before he says it. He's probably sick of transfer season.
The only reason why this forum compares him to Mbappe is his scoring and assist record in the last two seasons. Sancho doesn't have the explosive pace that Mbappe has and we really need to refrain the comparison, else we are setting up the lad for failure. The way I see it, he is around similar level to current Rashford and Martial (or probably a bit better) but also younger by 3 years so has a higher ceiling. And he has some complementary skills to them in terms of being better at dribbling and ability to play on the right.
I actually do think everything is going according to their plan. And if this does go through for 120m, then it’s a good deal for everyone involved.Can't wait to see him signed with English and German media reporting different figures, English media will say something much less than 120 million while German will say 120 million, and then the following d*ckswinging from United fans saying they got a great deal and Dortmund are fecked. Then Dortmund fans coming out in droves to say the club have done everything according to their plan.
Yeah because I think I have seen him play a handful of times and have been underwhelmed. When Rooney was his age he was already a game changer.Over 900 pages and now you ask this?
Good post and I wish people would start to understand this.Mbappe - €180m (€145m plus €35m add-ons)
Dembele - €145m (€105m plus €40m add-ons)
Felix - €126m
Havertz - €80-100m (different prices everywhere, sitting somewhere between these two figures once the add-ons are payed)
In terms of what they've proven Sancho sits #2 on this list, behind only Mbappe. Expecting Covid to drop his price all the way to €77-88m isn't believable. That would have him sit at the lower end of Havertz price, despite Sancho having better stats, an extra year on his contract and at a club that is significantly stronger both financially and on the field. Without Covid Sancho would probably be a similar figure as Dembele, so €120m already has some discount in there. I do agree it should probably be a bit more (I'd say €100-110m) but it's certainly not going to be as low as you've said.