Because he can move back to England now rather than later, play for a bigger club now, and earn better wages now. If he doesn't sign a new deal it weakens Dortmund and they will have to let him go.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Certainly makes me think today was not a real deadline and just Dortmund trying to call Utd's bluff. Did think if Utd really believed they were being serious that they would have speeded things up.
honestly that Nurse tweet is a work of art.
Without news? Are you living under a rock these past few days?There's been 17 pages at 40 posts per page since I last checked this thread at 21:00 yesterday.
What are you guys talking about to add that many pages without any news?
Only yesterday Ole was speaking to what looked like a creepy gathering (coaches plus Nemanja Matic) and in front of cameras about the transfer details. 1 day before an important European game you know! Must be legit.
Because Sancho’s fee only goes down from this point. They will never get this money for him again post COVID, and he doesn’t want to stay there past this coming season.
I’m sure Sancho would rather wait out his contract and get a big fat bump when he joins us instead or running the risk of being stuck there another 5 years
Its not my decision. I'm just saying its a possibility.
If Sancho really does want to come back to England, and the powers that be at United are confident in their relationship with the player and his camp, they could try the long game.
Water is not wet.
And this is why Dortmund are not in the best of situations.
1) He wants to go back to England. That's obvious. He keeps flying home and they have disciplined him for doing so over the past months.
2) Everyone is reporting he's agreed terms with United. It's been done early as the player really wants the move.
3) His contract is running down. He's a peak value here and everyone knows it including Sancho and his agent.
Ultimately Dortmund don't have much left to play here as the deal with the player has been done very early on and I think that's pissed them off as it's reduced their bargaining power. This is why they have invented a deadline so as to put pressure on United. That said when you take what I've said into consideration, along with the fact Dortmund have been very open about letting the player leave, does anyone really believe a deal can't happen after today?
Not a chance. They won't cut off their nose to spite their face.
It really is muppet season
Why not?
I hope you’re right. I mean, even if United paid top dollar For him it really wouldn’t matter because they did spunk £80M on Harry.
Actually thinking the most likely thing to happen is Sancho Signing a new deal and dedicating himself to years more at Dortmund when he’s already agreed terms with us is so laughably negative and weird.
We're not scared, we want to see the meltdown.
An italian journalist who lives in the mainland, a 4 hours drive from the sea is getting confirmation that negotiations are on for water to become wet
You have the agenda that you don't want the deal to happen. This is obvious. I have no issue admitting I do want it to happen so will obviously see it differently.
Speaking objectively though it makes zero sense for Dortmund to make up a deadline then refuse to do business. I think this is pretty obvious.
This is super boring, but imagine if Ed fecks this up. The meltdown here would be apocalyptic.
Those factors you`ve mentioned will still be there when he`s sold next season they won`t go away. Difference is the fee they get this year can cover for those expenses as well as having enough left in the tank to add to their own money. Him being cheaper next year means they pocket less money for their own and using more on these expenses which are City`s sell on clause and agent fees. There is absolutely no benefit of BVB selling him next year unless Sancho has a Messi esque season in Germany, the CL and the Euros which will give them the power to sell him like Chelsea did with Hazard
Wouldn’t imagine it would be good for the squad to have him around and taking part in training. You can’t leave him out because people will know something is going on and you can’t train with him as if he’s going to play and start because that’s disrupting your preparation for the season.
No ones going to send you important work to do if you’re working out your notice. It’s just best for everyone if they’d have sent him off on an extended holiday or something if this was done.
You're all panicking. That's why you've suddenly based yourselves in here and are seeking out the negativity! I'd be the same really. That's if I went on other forums.
It's happened before and even happened with Lukaku the other year.
It's no big deal IMO.
Some analysis this.
Great post and I do agree, my little nagging worry is that they have shown to be stubborn in the past, for example they turned down cash from Bayern for Lewandowski because they said they wouldn’t sell him and let him go for free. So if they publicly say he stays then I am worried (unless they say ‘he stays unless x y z).
I do think you’re right though.
I think it's a non-starter that he resigns anything with them when it was reported in Germany that he rejected an extension earlier this year that would've given him the pay bump that's been reported in recent days if he stays with the next season.
Add to the fact that his camp has been telling journo's they have their sights set on going back home to England sooner rather than later for months now and I believe he doesn't see his future in Germany at all. Whether it's this summer or the next, he'll be in the Premier League at some point. I just hope for all our sake it is indeed with us and not a rival...
You forgot to add on the Manchester United Tax and the English Player Tax.
just goes to show how much English journos are out of the loop unless Ed briefs them directly.Great point. Specially post pandemic where the clubs will be trying to save as much money as possible. And if both clubs are able to help each other save then so be it.
Referring to the bolded part; sure you’re right and clubs will take advantage of knowing BVB have money from the Sancho sale but in ‘real life’, it’s not so much about getting a special discount. It’s more about BVB being on the weaker foot in negotiations for Sancho’s replacement once his departure is officially confirmed. They could choose to walk away or pick a different replacement but if Sancho’s departure is confirmed, they will not entirely be able to walk away and clubs will know that.Yes, the notion that everything is agreed but we're just allowing Dortmund to sign replacements without anyone understanding why because then Dortmund might get fleeced
Lille sold a one season wonder winger for 80 mil to Napoli two weeks ago mate.
Which was most likely a pre agreed deal for a player Napoli have been tracking for a while. There’s no way they’d have paid that in the current market if that was a fresh approach. They’re also probably looking at selling a couple of players.
Also, whatever Napoli decide to spend on a player doesn’t dictate how much cash other teams have or what players are worth in the current market
Most accounts report United have done the same with Sancho and he was reported to be Ole's number 1 target as early as March of last year when he got the job permanently...
"How are we getting so many penalties by VAR this season?
"Oh, has the VAR referee for tonight been paid yet?"
"Ah sweet - when will you pay him?"
Could literally mean absolutely anything.
But we haven’t had a pre agreed deal from before COVID hit but Dortmund are treating it like we have, probably due to our prior interest and tracking
It's like saying fire is burnt.
I'm highly sceptical over what's going on here.
Based on the way journalists are talking, we're looking to be further out than just having him sign on the dotted line. The clubs don't seem to be coming together on anything.
If we don't agree, it makes sense for Dortmund to sign him down to a new deal, holding up his valuation(Palace did the same thing with Wan-Bissaka).
Sancho is also not "dead-on" to join us. I think he's interested in the project and Dortmund are willing to sell for the right price.
If this goes till next season, I can't see us signing him.
Its imperative we sign him. If we don't, I see the alternative being Wilfried Zaha, who not only isn't of the same caliber, but seems like a small club player. We're stupid enough to do some nonsense like that.
Based on the way journalists are talking, we're looking to be further out than just having him sign on the dotted line. The clubs don't seem to be coming together on anything.
If we don't agree, it makes sense for Dortmund to sign him down to a new deal, holding up his valuation(Palace did the same thing with Wan-Bissaka).
Sancho is also not "dead-on" to join us. I think he's interested in the project and Dortmund are willing to sell for the right price.
If this goes till next season, I can't see us signing him.
Its imperative we sign him. If we don't, I see the alternative being Wilfried Zaha, who not only isn't of the same caliber, but seems like a small club player. We're stupid enough to do some nonsense like that.
The only thing people know for sure that Ole is saying in that clip is "cash", and that's only because of the gesture he's making with his fingers.
To be honest, he could just as easily be telling a story about a guy he knew who could roll two tiny spliffs at the same time.
To be honest, he could just as easily be telling a story about a guy he knew who could roll two tiny spliffs at the same time.
Oh come on, is everything about hidden agendas for you? I already stated in this thread that I personally would prefer to get this done this summer. I'm sure you can find that. you're good at going through people's post history.
Oh stop it. You're always so serious. Lighten up! I think it's obvious non United fans don't want to see us make this deal and it's obvious pro Bundesliga fans don't really want to see the best players leave. Everyone has an agenda. Accept it.
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