Even if they going to the other side of the world, he still would have gone and I don't think it would be an issue. Not sure if he played in any games, but pretty sure Lukaku went on our pre-season tour to Australia last summer. If we told him to stay home before anything is agreed when the buying club would have the upper hand.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Na you are completely ignoring the fact that Dortmund are proven serial liars. They will say anything to control the narrative. That's why you most definitely are having a meltdown. One can say you are being "willfully ignorant" even.
This whole deadline is totally artificial to try and negotiate the price down on their other transfer targets. It's all theater and Sancho will be a United player in the near future.
This is what doesn’t make sense to me, the whole point in holding off is because we don’t want to pay their price, not agreeing something today would mean we cant agree on a fee and that won’t change unless we cave in. Which based on the briefs we aren’t going to do. It’s off!
Imposing an early deadline for a 120m purchase. That have no idea who they are dealing with. Woody has a cunning strategy to wait as long as possible and then bid 130m.
My theory is that we will buy him the day after we win the Europa League as that £8.5m prize money is just that extra little push we need 
Yeah, that'll make them take us seriously. 'If you won't take our money we'll just throw it away!'
He's not been in touch with folk since Friday, but just messaged me again there saying they were pretty open and adamant that it is done and the wait is so other deals aren't affected etc. That was a reply to me calling him a WUM.
I still don't think you know what a meltdown is.
We're Man United, we'll pay what we want.
Has never said it.
Bet he’s reading this thread laughing his head off.
You are just in denial, it's ok, it's just a transfer saga not the end of the world.
People like you illustrate why these media tactics work well though.
I'm sorry, but I got to ask: do you genuinely not understand why a club might want to do their pre-season knowing which player will be their lead in attack? And do you genuinely believe Dortmund could just call up the club of a potential Sancho replacement, pretending they just randomly want to add a star attacker to their team, running a huge transfer deficit in Covid times?
Doesn't know about redcafe
Really starting to believe this won't get done.
Got off this hype train long ago. If it happens it happens, don't want to get caught up in this.
Wow you are actually convinced that United won't buy Sancho!
Take your pick mate it's in the newspapers and on social media
Thats the thing, it's not that we don't want to pay what Dortmund want, it's the fact that we can't seem to agree on a structure to pay them by. Looks like we want to include bonuses whereas Dortmund don't want that, they want pure cash. We'll come to some sort of agreement when both teams accept a compromise, and it'll most likely be an upfront payment, followed by a set amount for say 2 or 3 years following.
Probably just means almost done as in not signed yet and needs to be looked over by Sancho's people etc.
Can't be finished if he hasn't signed yet.
English is also not his first language we have to remember.
When did I suggest it was a bad thing? Or that I was upset by it?
You clearly didn't read what I said. I think you just clicked on the thread hoping someone would be having a meltdown so you could comment on it. But then just skimmed my message without reading it properly.
People like you illustrate why it's important to learn to read something before replying to it
This won’t get done until Dortmund have got their replacement lined up - don’t think it will be Depay as Lyon normally try and screw everyone over and it would be obvious to them if they came in for him now that they had a bounty of cash - unless a deal in principal has been agreed and it won’t be announced until after they are out of the CL?
However, just seems that everything has to be such a long drawn out saga with very Utd transfer - why can’t we be fast and assertive and just get things done?
However, just seems that everything has to be such a long drawn out saga with very Utd transfer - why can’t we be fast and assertive and just get things done?
Fixed it for you
They have apparently been telling every journalist who wants to listen that their two red lines are 10 August and €120m.
To get a deal done, they will certainly now have to climb down from the former - we'll be hoping that they climb down from the latter, too.
Dortmund are signing Ikone from Lille
If the supposed BVB press conference is not followed up by a MUFC briefing to Simon Stone saying we pulled out, it's not over.
I have to also ask do you think this deal depends on what's said today?
I can see both sides but it's naive to consider this as done so early in the window irrespective of what's said in the background.
He never once said the contract is done.
The replacement player is supposedly Depay though. He’s currently elsewhere so that deal isn’t being done for a few weeks irrespective of what happens with Sancho. Putting such an early deadline on it was just bluster. If we stump up the cash Sancho will leave. Sancho has been very respectful so far but if I was him and Dortmund agreed to sell at a set price and then rejected that bid because of some nonsensical artificial deadline I’d stop being quite so respectful.
Now whether we actually stump up an acceptable fee is another matter. My personal feeling is if they’ve been negotiating for a week and still can’t come to an arrangement then it isn’t looking good.
Oh I read your initial post extremely clearly. I do think Zorc will say that Sancho will stay another season today but may still likely sanction his sale in the next week or two. Why? Because he's done this multiple times before with other players.
I knew you had lost the plot with this part: "United would only have themselves to blame if Dortmund do stop contact now. They were given a deadline and didn't take it seriously." You have been sucked in hook line and sinker into the media narrative that United and Dortmund's PR teams have crafted.
The only deadline that matters is the end of the transfer window. Journalists have already said that the Dortmund imposed deadline is artificial so I'm not just guessing here. Its all theater that advances both United's and Dortmund's interests, United in telling other clubs that they are limited in terms of money they can spend so don't expect a crazy fee for your player and Dortmund in telling clubs that they aren't going to be flush in cash to shell out an exorbitant fee for a replacement.
Did I say that? I think guys like Romano and Falk are taking people for a ride. When a transfer looked likely they fed on people's hopes by producing very optimistic reports (wasn't it Bild who claimed United had actually submitted that 70-30-20 offer?) and now that things appear to have slowed down or even petered out their line is "clubs are negotiating 24/7, could go either way".
As long as there is some room for doubt they will give "updates" to milk the muppets for clicks and retweets.
The Reddit ITK's have said similar. He could just be quoting them. Logically it doesn't make much sense for journos to sit on information for weeks on end.
Whatever the s said or not said today makes no difference.
Depay has just a year left on his deal and refusing to extend. Likely to be him all things considered and likely it will only happen when Lyon are knocked out first.
You definitely imply that when you refer to Zorc's statement as the way to "put this distraction to bed". Distraction meaning the transfer of Sancho and to bed meaning the end of transfer talks.
I would rather this ends today than wait another one or two months and still leave embarrassed after that. I don't think there is a point in getting the fee down. And if it was only about the structure, this could have been done by now.
I suppose at the very least it will need signing.
People negotiate deals during World Cups, I doubt that the CL tournament would put things on hold, especially if it's true that United have a €35m buyback clause for Depay, cutting Lyon out of negotiations.
Putting the distraction of endless transfer "updates" to bed. I won't pretend to know how things stand behind the scenes, especially not in times of crisis.
Nah no way. He's not a massive football fan, just watches the SPL. I didn't know about this reddit ITK nonsense so seriously doubt he does. He'll be relaying what he's been told.
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