that's why i stopped looking at twitter for news, people are just trying to get those likes and rt's. I'll just wait until it is confirmed here
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According to the reliable Bild.. They're referencing The Athletic as the source for Dembele being the alternative target.
With these obligations to buy are you allowed to pay in installments over a few years or does it have to be a lump sum payment at the end of the loan at year 1?
According to this BVB fan account, Bild have confirmed The Athletic's story that Ousmane Dembele is a alternative target to Sancho.
I'm not sure but I wouldn't have thought so considering the amount involved.
But isn’t that what Roma are doing? They pay 3m upfront then obligated to pay 18m but in three installments. Not sure how far that story is true but if it is possible then we should definitely take it.
I can't see us paying the amount in one lump sum. So I envisage it will be paid in instalments. A loan with a obligation to buy would suit us too.
That would be a mind-glowingly good deal for everyone:
- Gives Dortmund exactly what they want re: transfer fee
- Gives United the game-changing player we want now
- Gives us a year of financial recovery and planning to mitigate the large fee
- Gives us the chance to also spend on other areas of the team whilst Sancho would be next January/summer’s budget.
They're usually stretched over a period of time.
€150m would be a terrible deal for United
Don't think Mason or Rashford can match Martial in the number 9 position at the moment.
I have thought about an Mbappe kind of deal as well in which we pay far beyond his market value as a price of paying a year later.
Pants down.
It makes sense when you essentially have him a year for free.
I...don't care how much we pay as long as we get him. I've got to be honest.
Don’t know about you guys but I think the emergence of Mason (whom I stated at the start of the season would make the right side his own by the end of the season) puts us in a position of strength if Sancho wants to come to Utd.
We can put in a take it or leave it offer to Dortmund and we leave it at that;
It is not as if we have not bent over already as we have stepped aside and given them a clear run at Haaland and Bellingham so as far as I am concerned it is no more Mr Nice Guy
We can put in a take it or leave it offer to Dortmund and we leave it at that;
It is not as if we have not bent over already as we have stepped aside and given them a clear run at Haaland and Bellingham so as far as I am concerned it is no more Mr Nice Guy
It's €50m more than what you'd expect to pay, how does that make any sense?
Capital doesn't cost 50% per year
Is the loan supposed to be free?
Agreed. That’s not even mentioning their terrible social media teams online, which are all probably outsourced to the same American Media company.
It's just like renegotiating your interest payments lower. Usually the overall amount will increase.
Based on our cash flow situation, we might feel €100m now costs more than €150m in a year's time. Forgetting that money has time-value, we might simply not be able to afford that €100m now.
If we can't pay the money now, there has to be costs associated with paying in the future. Its like we are taking the asset on credit. We don't even know of the pics is €100m now. The articles I have seen are quoting €120/130m.
Can't remember correctly. When Mbappe moved on loan, wasn't the fee very small?
It was a scheme around FFP, they didn't had him for free. They paid the premium in the agreed fee and he had a massive wage.
What if Mason get's injured or loses form?....Even though it puts us in a position of strength are you thinking as an owner or a supporter? Because as a supporter, I can't imagine that would be the route to go down. Look, they know as well as we do Pogbas agent was a pest and that kids daddy saw the money. I know people will say otherwise but the boys 16 and would still be getting first team football if that was what was required. They want to sell Sancho but they will.
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Know it was around ffp but the principle is the same imo. If we use a loan with an obligation to buy, the obligation has to be more than the value they are demanding.
Which means that the loan isn't free.
In essence yes, but you get a player, you otherwise cannot afford now.
If we did get Sancho on loan, It would be like Mbappe going to PSG.
For 120, obligation to buy is a good deal but for 150? That's quite high in my opinion. The loan allows us to fix our defense and defensive midfield with players who are press resistant.
Dembele or Sancho?
That would likely include loan fees and wages over that, not the fee upfront
Loan fee and his wages during the loan would explain the added cost.
Small!? The whole thing cost them over €200m!
I mean it says obligation to buy for €150m, would be a weird thing to include in that fee
It's probably horse-shit anyway, so not worth debating the finer details
Sancho. Don't want Dembele at all.
I'd rather pay 150m for Sancho than 100m for Dembele, not the other way around.
I don't understand the logic behind this. You still have to pay €150 million ffs which is an enormous sum of money.
He's done nothing at Barcelona which would justify an increase fee from what they paid form him.. Particularly in the current climate.
I can only assume it just Barcelona trying to create a market for him.
Not necessarily. It would free up funds for a few transfers this summer while we still get Sancho.
This in a nutshell. Utd cant say we wont budge unless we get our valuation, but we want to pay a lot less than Dortmunds valuation. I think we will end up paying £88 mill plus attainable add ons to get to the price they want, so Woody can say he hasnt paid more upfront that he did for Pogba.
my thoughts exactlyThis is a bad deal. Noway we are paying 150m.
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