Yup. That's as far as you goes. Imagination
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Yup. That's as far as you goes. Imagination
Totally different times and different environment, there is no comparison that can be made.
The club is not paying £120 million in the last days of the transfer window, whilst the world is going into an economic crisis due to a global pandemic. Either way, Woodward and his people are killing the club with their incompetence.
So Cavani apparently is sorted, can we move for Jadon now? He’s waiting and he’s done his bit by refusing to play
Cavani plays from the right in a front 3.
Stop gap till we get Sancho for 50m next year after Covid wrecks Dortmund's finances.. or so Woodward thinks.
Who needs one of the best young players in the world when you can overpay a 33 year old 
God bless the Glazers
God bless the GlazersI can only assume that was the hold up. We can’t work on more than one transfer at a time.
Guilty as charged. Currently hoping for a "and Solskjaer has won it!" moment for this transfer.
would t be so sure. We are clearly ready to a big fee, by all account £90m+. Just depends on how much the + is.
It reeks of criminal incompetence leaving the decision to the 3rd of October. We are not talking about 20 million here, it would be our biggest ever transfer, during uncertain times as well.
I'm sorry, but this obsession that the club and the fans have with Sancho is going to cost us making progress this season. He is definitely not the only player available that would have improved our first 11 and our squad depth. We are fecking up big time with this whole saga, just as we usually do.
Wouldn't bet against it to be honest.
With Dembele staying at Barca, i see us making one last push for Sancho, and it'll probably be a big push. If Dortmund reject, they're going to likely have one very upset player on their hands who will be determined to leave next season.
Not sure who else we can go for now in all fairness. Perisic on loan for a season maybe? I really don't know. I don't see us going for Sarr or Brooks in all fairness.
Seem's we've been busy today. Potentially 3 signings. Now onto Jadon!
We have no leverage and paying the full price Dortmund wanted from the very start makes the club look like the biggest suckers in top level football. Sancho can't do anything in 2 days, it's too late for a boycott.
Everyone from teams to agents will continue to use our history against us and force us to continue paying inflated prices and wages.
I’m not sure why the global pandemic and economic crisis is being brought up now considering we’ve already bid 100m euro and around 15m euro for Telles. So yes it looks like the club are willing to pay 120m euro regardless of the pandemic.
Paying the full price was always on the cards, just in a structured form that benefits us and Dortmund. It was never going to be any different, whether we sign him tomorrow, Monday, January or next summer.
We're going to be paying €120m regardless, thats just how it is. Dortmund aren't like Leicester or Sporting, they're not going to cave in. Ed truly has met his match there and he knows it. In my opinion, it's only a matter of time until Sancho arrives, be it in the next 48 hours, or the next 12 months. Dortmund are going to get what they want, and we'll get the player we want.
How do you know the club are willing to pay 120 million and how do you know we already bid 100 million?
Whether we sign Sancho or not, the situation has been handled in a farcical way. This would be on of the toughest seasons ever and the squad should have been adequately reinforced before the first official game. Signing someone like Cavani on a free at the last moment would be very satisfying in such a scenario, now it reeks of panic and reacting to yet another failed transfer window.
Leicester definitely didn't cave in, neither did Sporting to be fair. But it seems you guys really believe it's still happening so good luck and have fun with it.
Hopefully people don't lash out on Ole when inevitably we end up signing only Cavani, the problem is in the board, Woodward and his cronies.I do believe we'll sign him, maybe not this summer, but definitely in the next 12 months.Leicester definitely didn't cave in, neither did Sporting to be fair. But it seems you guys really believe it's still happening so good luck and have fun with it.
It all depends on tomorrow i think... If we get hammered, Ed will panic BIG time. If we struggle against Tottenham, we'd get battered against Liverpool, City, Chelsea etc.
Ed sees himself as this master negotiator who can hammer out these fantastic deals, when in reality, he knows absolutely nothing to do with football transfers, and along with Judge, he's ruining the club. You'd think after 6 or so years, he'd have gotten to grips with what to do, but he just doesn't seem to have a clue. Unfortunatley, the axe will fall on Ole and he'll take the blame... Ed will go look for a new sacrificial la.. i mean manager, and the cycle will continue.
Nearly similar to my thoughts:
We qualified for the CL (26th july);
Laurel and Hardy (Ed and Judge) spread player names to the media like wildfire;
They try to show they're dealing with a number of clubs, players and agents;
They buy one player to keep fans happy for a while;
Dealings with several players, clubs and agents start to falter one by one;
Transfer Deadline comes along and Laurel and Hardy say they tried but Clubs, agents and players were asking too much or else, etc .......etc .......etc.
We play with the squad available and try to get into the first four places;
If things start to go downhill then sack the la.. ehh Manager;
Get another la.. ehh manager;
Start again from the top when the next transfer window comes along.
Round and round the mulberry bush!!
Unless we have another nightmare season and finish outside the top four again, prompting any other of the major European clubs with an interest in Sancho to suddenly look more attractive.
Y'know, the sort of nightmare season precipitated by a botched transfer window.
I think that Ed's under the impression that we have these amazing wonderkids in the squad that just need nurturing in the right way, you know, those like Jones, James, Lingard etc.
As it stands, we're a couple of injuries away from outside the top 6, nevermind the top 4! But at the end of the day, as long as Ed can secure us another nice sponsorship, he and the Glazers will be happy bunnies.
He doesn't actually realise that winning more things will get him even better sponsorships, maybe his business skills aren't that good after all? Who knows.
3? what have i missed?
Never heard of the last two.
Two youth signings.
Not sure if Pellestri is for the youth
70m+Cavani
I don't either really. I think he'll be in and around the squad but is more one for the future. Not as much as Kambwala though obviously.
The wages we're using on Cavani over two years probably amounts to the same amount that we need to get Sancho over the line
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Cavani
Still need
Telles
Sancho
Fast centre back
Cavani
Still need
Telles
Sancho
Fast centre back
That won’t happen this year. We’re stuck with what we’ve got there.
Hopefully Bailly can stay somewhat fit and Mengi/Axel get game time
Exactly. I hope we get Telles done at least.
Sancho is dead and fast CB I'm not even sure we are in for one.
Telles and a cb would be a pretty good transfer season, we can always come back for sancho next transfer window
The wages we're using on Cavani over two years probably amounts to the same amount that we need to get Sancho over the line
Do Dortmund want that money over two years or right now?
Transfer payments are always paid over time. The issue with Dortmund is wanting guaranteed money and potential add ons.
Thank feck we didn’t spend the money on him then
Do we know(for a fact) how much Dortmund want up front? Not all transfers have evenly spaced payments across the years of a contracts duration. Some have massive up front payments. The truth is, we know very little about how transfer payments are actually structured. I've seen about 5 different transfer fees for Kai Havertz on this thread alone.
Everything is dead and if the muppets do manage to sign someone decent it will be a genuine panic buy of Fellaini proportion except he wasn’t decent.
The wages we're using on Cavani over two years probably amounts to the same amount that we need to get Sancho over the line
Sancho's coming. Hang in there.The wages we're using on Cavani over two years probably amounts to the same amount that we need to get Sancho over the line
The wages we're using on Cavani over two years probably amounts to the same amount that we need to get Sancho over the line
You make a lot of sense however if Smalling, Alexis, Andreas and Dalot leave with the last two on loan you have to say that £600k per week as been freed up from the wages, let’s consider that £80m + £40m were set aside for VDB and Jadon with wages of £120k for VDB And £300k for Jadon with £100k for Dean Henderson being factored in, the 80k surplus being used to pay of Alexis contract, then however Dortmund were simple not prepared to move on their £110m evaluation fee and the agents fee of £50m for Jadon Agent making the deal completely unrealistic in this current climate, maybe The agent dropped his fee to £25m which would mean this deal is still not financially viable for any Elite club , with all the super clubs throughout Europe guaranteed To lose £100m in gate receipts this season, therefore with Dortmund not relenting, Woodward is scrambling to salvage the whole transfer and to be honest if he signs ;
VDB - 35m plus 5m agent fees - 120k p/w
E Cavani - Free 15m agent fees - 210k p/w
A Telles - 15M plus 5m agent fee -100k
Dembele - 58M plus 10m agent - 200k p/w
I Would say salvage done, without giving into Dortmund’s ridiculous Ego we spend maybe £90m net and £35m in agents fees
All 4 players improve the squad and all compete for a first 11 our budget remains intact, Igalho goes in January with Jones, James and Sergeo Romero freeing up £300k per week and maybe giving us £30m to try again with Dortmund then with a straight £100m, a United fan can always live in hope however knowing woodward,
You get the feeling he’ll Screw up Cavani and Dembele deals and let City sign Telles, so the next 48 hours could be the most critical in our recent history, strap in folks were on that familiar rollercoaster ride with Woodward !!!
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