No, our board really are that stupid.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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No, our board really are that stupid.
I keep seeing this sort of outlook from posters and it's baffling. Chelsea have invested, so they won't invest again? They still need players. Sancho apparently supports Chelsea. You absolutely can't rule them out and, if you're Woodward, you have to expect them to be interested next summer. Not take such a naive outlook. Also, Liverpool have shown they will spend. Virgil Van Dijk for £90m or whatever it was. The fact they are winning big trophies and not spending now only makes me believe even more that one window soon they will just spend big sums again to top refresh their team. Sancho would be a great replacement for the ageing Mane or Salah.
Two things to remember:
1) Never underestimate heart of a champion.
2) Never underestimate stupidity of Glazers and Woodward.
OK the first one is irrelevant here but hopefully you get the point.
Promote him. Please.
are we the worst negotiating 'team' of a top European club?
'See this club who are not desperate to sell their most prized asset? Well, we will piss them off all summer then at the death they will probably cave in to us'
'See this club who are not desperate to sell their most prized asset? Well, we will piss them off all summer then at the death they will probably cave in to us'
Curious mate, when did Jose say he would quit on the spot for any other club?
I agree. Woody is fast approaching a point where he will have no other option but pay what Dortmund want. I am very surprised United didn't pursue Grealish, somehow I was sure they were pursuing him discreetly. Very good player and more than a decent plan B.
Our board are not stupid, Woodward is not inept. People need to realise the club ambition extends as far as Champions League qualification, that is it. It is obviously deemed too expensive to challenge for titles relative to prize money. Champions League qualification with minimum spending is the club M.O. now.
Oh Gawd, this thread is still going?
Ridiculous comment to make.
The problem isn't really the length, but the lack of quality.
So to those of you still believing this is alive when do you see it happening out of interest
I don't understand how such nonsense keeps getting repeated.
For your reference, we broke English transfer record with Di Maria, then with Pogba, then with Lukaku ( including add-ons) then made Maguire the most expensive defender in the history of football in last 4 years. Yeah champions league qualifications is the M.O
Being disorganised and wasteful in spending doesn't mean we don't want to compete. Saying we don't want to spend to compete is flat out lies.
Edit : Forgot to add Shaw as most expensive fullback at that time. Martial the most expensive teenager at his time. Paid 37m for Mata in 2013. Gave Sanchez that humongous contract to sign for us.
Because he doesn't play on the right. The last thing we need is another left side attacker. Let alone for silly money.
I wish I hade as much faith in the board as you. I'm actually quite the opposite, and think the deal is not going well because the board are clueless.
Summed up beautifully with a wonderful mic drop moment at the end. Cheers to this post!
I admire your optimism. But I can't see it. Heck, even from Sancho's demeanor/social media activity - I think he's prepared to settle in Dortmund for another year.
ATM it definitely looks like they're that stupid.
Yes, but this time we wont get Sancho next year. go read my earlier post.
If Bale comes and has a good season and we finish 4th, then we will sign Bale. If he is injured and has bad season we finish outside top 4, Sancho wont come to Europa League team. Plus add the fact that his price would be with Bundesliga win, good Euros performance and good showing in Champions League. European high class would be after him It would take at least 150 million to get him from BVB if they are asking 120 this year
are you wavering buddy? Be strong. This will happen in the final week. Say four days from the deadline.
You’re absolutely correct but you’re wasting your time. Every time mommy refuses to give us a biscuit she’s the worst mommy ever.
My favourite part was how you typed out around 4 million words but then abbreviated "Corona" to save a couple of letters!
Bale is a decoy.
I can certainly see Chelsea being interested next summer. Yes, they've bought Ziyech and Havertz but if truth be told, Sancho is better than both of them. Chelsea are not shy to be ruthless if the right player comes along. Who would have thought they'd spend £72m on a keeper and then bin him off and replace him with another keeper. When its billionaire money, then it's easy to do.
Also, the fact that a lot of clubs aren't spending this summer doesn't neccessarily mean they are skint. A lot of them will be acting cautiously due to the uncertain future at the moment. But if things start getting back to normal by next summer, I can certainly see other clubs coming in for him who we assumed were skint. Anyhow, I still believe we'll sign him this summer due to the risks of the above.
Liverpool were only able to pull off those signings by selling big and the Swiss ramble did a good piece on their finances. Unless they sell one of their stars for big money, they're not going close to 120m euros. With Chelsea, sure Abramovich might decide to bankroll this one signing, but again, this spending spree is down to the huge fee they got for hazard and 0 spend in the last financial year. They would need to shift a lot of players to finance it if Roman doesn't just pump the money in. Not to mention, there's a strong chance most clubs make a loss next year, due to stadiums being empty for most of the year.
Real will probably go for Mbappe, Bayern wouldnt spend that sort of money when they're looking at CHO. Barca maybe if Messi goes - which is unlikely, but by a lot of accounts they're after Lautaro. Juve are going to make heavy losses this year. You're not left with a lot of options who can spend that sort of money. I genuinely think we're probably going to be the only ones able to pay close to what Dortmund are looking for next season as well.
Ridiculous? Bit over the top.
Before the window closes. We don't do things the easy way.
Maybe we're leaving Jadon for a few extra weeks to strike up a bond with Bellingham - the secretest of all secret agents.
Yet we still have owners that take more money out of the club than any other in the league. Yet our transfer activity year after year appears to be these long, drawn out sagas that largely serve to get people talking about the club and get more clicks online. The Glazer family write the cheques. Now ask yourself this, do you really think the Glazer family value a Manchester United trophy over a few extra zeros in their bank account?
So you've proved that we panic buy and overpay. The incompetence of the board was never in question.
People have questioned the ambition of the club based on WHEN the spending occurred. It seems to point that we are likelier to spend when chasing top four, but less likely when we have already achieved that. Which of course makes sense from a business perspective.
See, I thought it was going to be the day after the window shuts.
We ONLY bought those players to get into Champions League mate. In a season, when we have secured CL football Glazers dont spend. CL is enough for them. omg how stupid can you be if you dont realize that. They are satisfied with being top 4 in England. They are never going to want to try to being nr 1 in the world again. That is not what they do. Go check out what Tamba Bay has done under their leadership for the last 15 years.
They are the only owners in Premiership that have taken out 100 million quid in the last 4 years as dividends for themselves. That is the cost of Sancho. Wake up bro, they will never compete. Only way to compete is if we get Greenwoods coming out every year from the academy. Woodward will NEVER be fired by Glazers. He has made them so much money that they dont care about how inept he is in the transfer market. They are very happy that he is the fall guy for our club.
Every season when we dont get into CL our net budget is 100 mil pounds. When we do get into CL our budget is around net 50 mil pounds.
Glazers didnt back Moyes, didn't back van Gaal and when Mourinho needed backing the most they bought him LEE fecking GRANT. And now they are not backing Ole. Moyes, van Gaal and Mourinho have all said that Ed Woodward got them their 4th and 5th targets on their list.
And you are giving them credit for buying Di Maria for 75 mil???? Woodward is stupid for buying Mata for 40 mil, Di Maria for 75 mil, Sanchez and so on. He is inept at transfers and other well run clubs are just taking advantage of us.
Glad it's coming to an end. Worrying thing though, is we are running out of options.
That was exactly my point. It makes all the sense in the world to sign him now.
Well I don't know the answer and you also don't so let's not get there
We don't see owner investment because we don't need it. Lies and propaganda about paying interest has been covered extensively. We hardly pay any tax so all these they took 1 billion out is just so childish argument.
Sure we could get better owners but this notion that in Covid situation when economy of every country is contracting, if our board thinks paying 120m is not good for financial health of the club then so be it. I will be disappointed but I can understand that. But to use this to say that we don't spend to compete is not correct.
Just to give you one example, our shirt sponsor deal will expire next season. In current climate we might not get similar deal, our commercial revenue might not be same next year, who knows what our gate income will be this year, TV deal is also in question. What happens if league is again postponed this season due to Covid? We as supporters don't think all this because we are not responsible for it but if Ed Woodward fecks this up then we will call for his head. This is incredibly difficult and quite unique situation and I will trust the board to steer us through this as they proven themselves quite capable in financial aspect.
I still hope we somehow signs Sancho but if it is at a cost that our board thinks is too risky, then so be it. We have lost on great players in our pomp. No big deal
Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Everton...have all invested considerably. Even Dortmund who is refusing to sell Sancho invested on Jude with no problem in this very summer. Aren’t those teams exposing Woodward and the Glazers’s lies?
You say they can spend money but we, the supposedly biggest club in the world, cannot do it because we might face danger financially? I don’t buy it. If anything, the COVID happening has provided Woodward and the Glazers with the perfect excuse to tighten the purse string.
Your last sentence of we have lost big players before so it’s no big deal... I’m not sure how you can come to such conclusions. For a team like Liverpool or City, or even us back in Fergie days, it might be true. But for a team which have been in decline for 7 years like us, every potential big signing is crucial. City got those crucial signings Silva, Aguero, Yaya, Kompany...through the line and look where that got them. We can’t afford another Hazard situation with Sancho. It will truly cement us as a mid-table club with no ambition for the next decade.
That was 11 years ago, going on 12.. I just want to know when are they planning on addressing the right wing situation? Valencia started playing right back in 2014 I think, so 6 years of no proper right wing.
I guess they gambled with James, but why buy a left winger and try to play him on the right? Definitely some questionable decisions...
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All hard evidence points to the Glazer family valuing lining their pockets over the club's on field success. If you cannot see this then there is no point discussing further.
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