I see little hype and a lot of "looks like he slowly gets in form" currently. Not even BILD are hyping him up but doing just that.
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Beautiful goal.
Think Ashworth will insist on the new manager running the rule over him before he goes anywhere myself but I’ve been wrong before.
Think Ashworth will insist on the new manager running the rule over him before he goes anywhere myself but I’ve been wrong before.
My bad!
However I think another poster said it, the players that failed at United rarely go on to reveal themselves somewhere else.
While I agree there most certainly is a cultural problem at United, Sancho is not a reflection of that in my view
This isn’t the Mc Tominay thread.
Let's be real, he hit a PL defender with that hesi outside the box, best case scenario he win a free kick
Pogba was levels above Enzo it’s not even remotely close what they both can do on a football pitch. It’s an insult to Pogba to even compare.
France have won two world cups and Pogba has been a standout three tournaments. The guy deserves a tonne of credit.
His club career numbers aren’t bad either. If he’d have gone to city people would be talking about him in a completely different way. He’d have been one of the Prem greats. Pep wanted him that’s obvious.
But this didn't happen. Concerning your previous assesment I'd ask, it's Pogba's career better than those of:
-Kopa
-Fontaine
-Platini
-Papin
-Zidane
-Henry
-Mbappe
Very true, but also i would argue a lot of them play better before they come here.
Enzo was considered one of the players of the tournament and won it, as did Pogba. One world class tournament isn't enough to be considered an all-time great.
The stuff about Pogba at City under Pep is an incredibly weird argument. Who the hell knows what would have happened.
Was this ignored by chance?
He's doing fine. Garnacho is doing better thankfully so no need for suggestons that we need Sancho on the right and he was ineffective on the left.
Still can't finish a full 90 minutes I see
If I remember correctly - he also didn't turn up with Ole and Ralf as coaches so what does he on about ?
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I think it's quite clear that there simply is broken trust between Sancho and EtH which likely wasn't the case with his other managers. When he came to United he reportedly was sick early on which made his start very complicated, but that's nothing anybody would blame on the manager. Ole than struggled to build Sancho into the side but probably it was clear to Sancho that he would have to find his place even if playing in positions he didn't like etc. Did he do well? Not so much... but still I can't remember Sancho and Ole complaining over each other. Even weird experiments like training sessions with Sancho as wing back clearly had the intention on Ole's behalf to get him into the team and I think Sancho appreciates that.
Rangnick also did use him and let him play and also here I can't remember personal complaints about each other.
If we look at Dortmund/Terzic, he was mocked a bit recently for Terzic publicly criticising him and why he wouldn't react like he did towards EtH for doing something similar. Instead after the match on the weekend Sancho was highly critical of his own performance despite scoring his first goal since his return to Dortmund.
So all in all it seems to me that Sancho doesn't have big issues with anybody as long as there is trust. And that (for whatever reason - I am pretty sure it was never made public and likely won't be for years) just doesn't exist between EtH and Sancho.
Disclaimer which always seems to be necessary when I post about this: I don't blame EtH for this or think he did something wrong. Maybe he did, but I just try to look at Sancho's perspective and try to understand why he acts towards EtH like he does.
His time under Ole was pretty short, so he probably just blames that period on his ear infection. He had a couple of hamstring problems under Rangnick, so he probably blames that time on those. He was fit under Ten Hag, starting games and swanning off at his leisure, meaning there's no external factors that can be blamed and as such the nearest authority figure gets it instead.
Still looks ponderous to me (if that's a full sprint) in that goal. Useless player.
Ah yes and then in 18 months time he can insist on the next new manager do the same thing. Sancho doesn't have the mentality to be a United player.
Do you really want a new manager to waste time with him?
He's had long enough
I’m saying what I think will happen, what I want is irrelevant. I think people believing he’ll be sold after this spell are kidding themselves.
Removing emotion, Ashworth was behind the scenes with England during the time Sancho came through & we aren’t getting anywhere near £80mil back. He’ll likely be at Carrington on the first day of training next year.
He scored a good goal on the weekend & I suspect he’ll be a United player next season, is all.
There’s an understatement for the ages.
pots. kettles. black.
I agree, which is why I think they’ll press ahead with other outgoings & Ashworth will back himself/the team on this one.
Personally think it’s best to part ways but I can’t see a buyer at any price United would consider unless Ineos basically let him go for free. Even if they do not many could afford the wage.
Loan for another season?? This time they can pay 100% of the wages.
Yeah she’s my auntie.
I’ve got to be honest mate, your username doesn’t register so I can only apologise for whatever posts I’ve made in the past that have you bringing such ire into a performance thread. My DMs are always open for resolution, otherwise let’s keep to the topic at hand as what your aunt & I get up to in the privacy of her bedroom is not for public consumption.
No more loans. This is your try before you buy. If you don't want to buy then feck off.
Good joke about ETH at fault for his career downturn
They take the piss out of us do Dortmund
Exactly.
BILD is typical yellow press, what kind of reporting do you expect?Secret planwhy would any of their plans be public ?
This is exactly how I see it, as soon as ETH leaves Sancho will be stating how much he loves the club and can’t wait to get a fair crack of the whip?
Whilst I’m no fan of Sancho frail mentality, if you were in his position and you keep seeing Teacher’s pet continue to get picked over you and stink the place out. Buying Antony was not necessary and at £85m will be the most significant thing ETH tenure is remembered by?
Had we spent the £85 on another quality CF or Elite Number 10 or combination of players, the Sancho debacle may never have happened!
I'd agree about Antony. Total clusterfugk of a transfer .
Everything else is open to debate. Probably TH is not the right manager for Sancho , id be surprised if he ends up back at United.
Because he is meek. Such footballers don’t make it at top teams like City.
Garnacho has displaced Antony. Or is he a teachers pet too? The difference is that Garnacho wants to compete and is willing to fight for it.
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