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Few people have spoken about his attitude during training now.
There might be some truth to it.
There might be some truth to it.
Please provide us with a single example of EtH calling a specific player out and blaming him for a loss since he became United manager.
You do not understand how sympathy works. You should work on that, or you will go through life struggling to form and maintain healthy relationships.
I was convinced Sancho was lashing out to the manager but this makes too much sense. Not a good look either way but there might be some scope for him to continue at United.
Training is where the players compete with each other for places. Okay, so if you’ve been playing in the team you might have some credit or deficit in the pot but to a great degree the best performers from training will have a better chance of making the match day squad.
As EtH said, there are numbers available in the attacking areas. He didn’t say Sancho was poor, exactly, just that he wasn’t as good as the other options and didn’t make the cut. His comments, imo, were directed at everyone to raise the intensity of competition for places. Ended up sounding harsh on Sancho.
I think so, absolutely.
When ETH commented on him not being ready mentally last season, I said it may have as well pointed to his attitude rather than some mental issues bordering on suicidal depression which many on here have convinced themselves was the case. His application during the games was never there and it has likely also been the case off the pitch, hence this situation.
Both Sancho and Maguire are players that have been left out by EtH. It’s just not his kind of players. This happens all the time in top football when a new manager is appointed.
It is not Sancho, Maguire or Ten Hags fault and not them who are to blame here. It’s the club who gave them far too much money in the first place and now can’t get rid off them because of that.
Sancho will never be a EtH player, he wants hard working players with good positional awareness and a high work rate. Sancho got none of them.
It is not Sancho, Maguire or Ten Hags fault and not them who are to blame here. It’s the club who gave them far too much money in the first place and now can’t get rid off them because of that.
Sancho will never be a EtH player, he wants hard working players with good positional awareness and a high work rate. Sancho got none of them.
Yeah.
He’s struggling to produce enough quality in training and his team mates are outcompeting him for limited match day squad places. Frustrating for him but all players are in the same boat. EtH is trying to raise the level. Probably it is hard to keep all these players focused all the time and the message is clear - they all have to deliver every day. Sancho wouldn’t be the only one to be left out in these circumstances but the high fee and high salary make it a big deal for press and fans.
He needs to do better and, of course, he realises it. He doesn’t like everyone sniping at him and I can understand that. I’m rooting for him and, no doubt, he can contribute, but I don’t think he’s going to be good enough to get regular starts in the long term. Hope I’m wrong about that.
Can't remember him arriving unfit in his first year.
I do remember fans were disappointed Sancho didn't cut his vacation short and joined the squad a bit early for preseason.
What a daft, daft move by Sancho. Wouldn't be surprised if ETH freezes him out after this. Although of course he could explain what he meant and make things up but a lot better if he didnt write anything.
You completely made that up.
He was like that last season too from a get go.
Wild
Position now for Sancho is simply not tenable. He's effectively calling his manager a liar. It seems to me that ETH and the club have invested a lot of time and energy into trying to turn this lad into a PL footballer and all the evidence we've seen on the pitch suggests he's either not up to it or doesn't fancy the work required. Bin him off.
His days at the club are over. Two seasons of underachievement no where back for him from here.
We seem to have a problem with self entitled players. I called this before but because the players I mentioned just happened to be predominantly of a certain skin colour I was labelled a racist which is BS.
I didn’t say that he calls specific players out but every time we lose he starts talking about how the players didn’t follow his plans. It’s fine for a motivational tactic but today’s footballers are prima Donna’s who won’t take this for long. I don’t know if ETH gave that answer yesterday because he likes to be honest but again it wasn’t needed
People are letting the press away with stirring the pot here. Ten Hag basically said he wasn't quite at the level of the others in training, but he did not comment on Sancho's application in training. Reading what Sancho says, he is referring to written comments about him in the press. This is classic press deflection given Sancho is accusing them of writing ill informed articles about him.
This is Jadon Sancho fresh off the bench against Wolves trying his best to track back.
https://x.com/elviscyril5/status/1698476822332162188?s=46&t=3cSPEXx54yOkvLX_Hq8XPw
This is Jadon Sancho fresh off the bench against Spurs really getting stuck in.
https://x.com/s_mofficial/status/1698441363015012417?s=46&t=3cSPEXx54yOkvLX_Hq8XPw
He’s an incredible talent but he hasn’t got the mentality. If he buys in, works hard and plays with intensity then he has a chance to be a top player but what you do off the ball is more important than what you do on it - if I have to see one more post about Antony vs Sancho I’m going to scream.
https://x.com/elviscyril5/status/1698476822332162188?s=46&t=3cSPEXx54yOkvLX_Hq8XPw
This is Jadon Sancho fresh off the bench against Spurs really getting stuck in.
https://x.com/s_mofficial/status/1698441363015012417?s=46&t=3cSPEXx54yOkvLX_Hq8XPw
He’s an incredible talent but he hasn’t got the mentality. If he buys in, works hard and plays with intensity then he has a chance to be a top player but what you do off the ball is more important than what you do on it - if I have to see one more post about Antony vs Sancho I’m going to scream.
It really, truly is ridiculous. We will let go of one Martial, and we have kept another one in the wings. Waiting. (And not moving)
Martial has always tracked back and pressed. This idea he doesn’t is a myth. His issue currently is he literally can’t run. His body is shot.
He could at least tweet today that he was not having a go at ETH but rather the media (who let’s be honest have hardly criticised him especially considering his fee and salary).
The same way pogba and lingard and Ronaldo have hit back?
Sancho has been absolutely useless since joining Man Utd. He does literally nothing.
He was at the Louis Vuitton fashion show earlier in the year in Paris with Rashford and taking photos with Pogba and I just thought, "how pathetic". Thinks he's a huge star. He's completely useless and seems a bit dim. Especially with his statement. Hope to dear god the club sell him now to Saudis or in January. Get rid and buy a proper winger or play Pellistri or Amad more often when fit.
He was at the Louis Vuitton fashion show earlier in the year in Paris with Rashford and taking photos with Pogba and I just thought, "how pathetic". Thinks he's a huge star. He's completely useless and seems a bit dim. Especially with his statement. Hope to dear god the club sell him now to Saudis or in January. Get rid and buy a proper winger or play Pellistri or Amad more often when fit.
The problem is that Sancho is now stuck to being a drifter on the team and there's no place for him, really, unless we have more injury shenanigans. He's not displacing Bruno, Rashford (or even Garnacho) nor Antony. The latter is the only one he could have a shot at if he significantly raises his game. And there's plenty of competition with Pellestri & Amad Diallo to begin with.
Was there before Antony so can't say he had not been given a shot at winning his place first season.
I'd keep the jury out until he can get some minutes with Højlund if the Dane proves to be the anchor and missing link we needed upfront, maybe that will also help him ?
Otherwise possibly as a false nine but that's so atypical for ten Hag and what he wants at 9 (and well, negates any advantage of playing with a 9 for him) that I expect this to only happen rarely.
Can maybe aim at being a super sub, that's be a welcomed development.
He's still very young and can rebound elsewhere but so far United are concerned, if no progress this year, we should acknowledge this transfer was a failure next summer and sell him. Wages might be an issue to shift him without taking a loss but maybe another wealthy club in Europe will think they can use him better than we did.
Was there before Antony so can't say he had not been given a shot at winning his place first season.
I'd keep the jury out until he can get some minutes with Højlund if the Dane proves to be the anchor and missing link we needed upfront, maybe that will also help him ?
Otherwise possibly as a false nine but that's so atypical for ten Hag and what he wants at 9 (and well, negates any advantage of playing with a 9 for him) that I expect this to only happen rarely.
Can maybe aim at being a super sub, that's be a welcomed development.
He's still very young and can rebound elsewhere but so far United are concerned, if no progress this year, we should acknowledge this transfer was a failure next summer and sell him. Wages might be an issue to shift him without taking a loss but maybe another wealthy club in Europe will think they can use him better than we did.
Hopefully same criteria applies to all players. Wondering how is Rashford doing in training to keep getting selected. Because his application on the matchdays leaves a lot to be desired.
I'm not understanding what's pathetic there? That he went to a fashion show and took photos with his mates?
Nah man. I sympathize with players like Antony,Maguire who work hard but appear to just don't have the required quality to play for us. And Maguire has been the scapegoat for years not Sancho.
Sancho, by all accounts has had attitude issues ever since he was at Dortmund and seems like nothing changed. If after 3-4 different managers mention that your training has been poor and your first response is to put out a statement instead of trying to prove your manager wrong shows all about his attitude. He only has himself to blame.
Think it's safe to assume that people are held to similar standards because when Rashford was turning up late to trainning he was subsequently benched for it. Only difference is Rashford then went on to score the winner in the game, whereas Sancho has decided to spit his dummy out.
Are Anthony, Martial and Rashford more hardworking Sancho?
Anthony 100% is... it's probably his strongest (and arguably only "good") attribute
I'd say Rashford and Sancho are about on par in terms of work rate.
A desk fan in the arctic circle has is more hardworking then Martial
What did it say, not available now.
Just that club sources had said that no further comment was needed after ETH words.
Thanks.
Get rid. Never good enough and never will be. Stick him in the reserves until January, along with Maguire.
Another grey cloud over this club.
I don't think there's a problem with Sancho's response to this, and don't see this as a slight to ETH whatsoever - he makes it clear the post wasn't aimed at the coaching staff and that he is prepared to fight for his place and respects the clubs decisions.
The post is aimed at the press and the social media trolls who will inevitably jump on the non story and use the situation as yet another stick to beat him with.
I think its fair to say that ever since he missed the penalty in the final against Italy he has been mercilessly abused online on social media (often with very racist undertones, especially in the immediate aftermath) which will have been very difficult for such a young high profile player (and is likely what he alluded to in his comments around being scapegoated in the post); he seems to have had it worse than Rashford and Saka as whilst they have both kicked on and played well for club and country since, he has struggled and is still pretty heavily targeted.
I'm not defending his performances since signing for United (frankly aside from a handful of games he's clearly not been good enough) but there are clear factors at play here, the last 24 hours being yet another example of this.
The post is aimed at the press and the social media trolls who will inevitably jump on the non story and use the situation as yet another stick to beat him with.
I think its fair to say that ever since he missed the penalty in the final against Italy he has been mercilessly abused online on social media (often with very racist undertones, especially in the immediate aftermath) which will have been very difficult for such a young high profile player (and is likely what he alluded to in his comments around being scapegoated in the post); he seems to have had it worse than Rashford and Saka as whilst they have both kicked on and played well for club and country since, he has struggled and is still pretty heavily targeted.
I'm not defending his performances since signing for United (frankly aside from a handful of games he's clearly not been good enough) but there are clear factors at play here, the last 24 hours being yet another example of this.
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