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We want a public apology!
Having watched the Dortmund PSG match tonight he wasn't exactly a world beater.
He looked more determined and confident than her ever was under ETH.
He looked more determined and confident than her ever was under ETH.
Ten Hag would be a hero if he recalled him before the final. He'd never get another job in football but it would be worth it.
He’s better than Rashford and Antony that’s for sure
I think he just wanted some of his own players, considering we were exclusively linked with people he knew. I don't think our scouting department exists. Either that or noone at the club knows about it.
He is playing under a better quality system and manager now. Rags to riches basically
They will be picking up medals. May or may not be gold medals, but they'll get medals nonetheless.
I hope we get good money with CL finals thing.
Bizarre headline from Sky saying he stifled Mbappe? Does annoy me they can’t just report without name dropping for clicks. Ryerson was superb.
Exactly, some people here are making themselves look very silly, and dare I say RAWKish, allowing their bitterness to drive them to bitter name-calling when he’s in a CL and we just lost 4-0 to Palace. Reminds me of social media posts about an ex. “He was a snek anyway, just me and Ten Hag now… “
Don't get this annoyance at him. He was clearly not settling in here and prefers it at Dortmund. It's also not as if he's pulling trees there, he's had a couple of good performances but on the most part it's no where near his level of performances in his first stint. I don't think it has anything to do with ETH but rather Sancho's own mentality, he struggled under Ole and Ragnick.
Sabitzer, I can understand the annoyance because I thought he did well and would have been very useful to have in midfield, especially given how poor Amrabat has turned out to be. He seemed to enjoy his time here, unlike Sancho.
Sabitzer, I can understand the annoyance because I thought he did well and would have been very useful to have in midfield, especially given how poor Amrabat has turned out to be. He seemed to enjoy his time here, unlike Sancho.
Maybe he just feels happier at Dortmund and more comfortable rather than a 'trying to prove people wrong'?
That's impossible. Manchester is a beautiful city where the sun always shines, everybody and everything is nice and lovely, and United as a club is the home of good vibes, everybody loving it there and just the best imaginable environment for a football player. There is no way that a player could ever feel happier somewhere else.
It's obvious he never tried as hard at United as he has for Dortmund in these last two games. Absolutely zero excuses for that no matter how hard you try to spin it, especially considering that ETH let him take a months long vacation off last season for personal issues and mental health reasons, sending him to the Netherlands for personal training, as well as still trusting him for this upcoming season as he was planning to play him in a new position, at false 9. Not to mention that he's on 350k per week, one of the highest paid players in the Premier League.
But surely United are at fault for Sancho doing more successful take-ons in 1 CL game for Dortmund than probably in a whole season at United? Or you think this Dortmund team is stronger than last season's United side that came 3rd?
Dortmund's manager Terzic about him (article is from yesterday before the match):
"Jadon is a special guy and requires some measures that isn't conventional. If you expect something special from Jadon on the pitch, you have to offer him something special outside of it. The art then is that the team accepts that. The challenge you have every day as a coach is to get the best out of every single player, but never lose the group while doing that. We are on a really good way with Jadon at the moment"
https://www.kicker.de/terzic-ueber-...-die-mannschaft-es-akzeptiert-1022714/artikel
I guess it's clear that Sancho is a difficult character, which isn't great, no doubt. The fact that special measures were also taken by Manchester shows that they are aware of this. Nonetheless it seems that Dortmund just know better how to deal with that than United do.
or just hit form due to regular game time
Don't forget the amazing manager with the great man-management skills. Just ask Cristiano Ronaldo.
Hit form? Was he in form in the Bundasliga?
So your explanation has nothing to do with wanting to prove people wrong?
I'm not sure how you quantify how someone does or doesn't try, in the end, we don't really know. Was he poor for United? Yes, but I don't think we can say that he definitively didn't try as hard at United as he has at Dortmund. Perhaps, as I said previously, he feels more comfortable and happy there and he didn't at or with United, which is just one of those things.
Not sure what his wage has to do with it either, money doesn't equate happiness.
He's played out of position by Terzic to accommodate Adeyemi (which is stupid because Adeyemi isN#t much worse on the right, IMO, but Sancho is definitely much better on the left). Sancho can still be good on the right as evidenced by his recent performances but he immediately plays much better when he switches to the left. Most of his scorers since his return happened when he was able to cut inside as well. If there's one thing you can't criticize United for, then it's playing him out of position.
You think Ronaldo was right? Or that ETH didn't handle that situation well?
Special measures? This guy is an entitled feck
I’ve watched him regularly with Dortmund this season and he’s been the same as he was at United. Probably a bit more smiling but his game is the same.
Difference is : at United the media will focus on everything you miss, at Dortmund the media will just see when you do something good.
He was pretty average last night, lost the ball a lot and tried fancy useless footwork at times.
Difference is : at United the media will focus on everything you miss, at Dortmund the media will just see when you do something good.
He was pretty average last night, lost the ball a lot and tried fancy useless footwork at times.
Ite been a great move all round. Sancho has got playing time and got to a CL final.
United have got €7.5m in loan fees.
United have got €7.5m in loan fees.
He's been rubbish for them too.
Well, Dortmund are rubbish this season. But they look less rubbish since Maatsen and Sancho arrived in the winter.
I was playing mate. And of course I wouldn’t abide by our club ever acting like that.
I see your point. Over the semi finals, I thought he was better than most of hos time at United, but it’s not far off. First half in Dortmund, he was erratic, lost the ball a lot and couldn’t forward play. Second half everything he did came through, and had he been a bit more incisive, he would have made a big difference in that game, but then again, it wasn’t. In Paris, he started bright, with some very good passing on turnovers, but his duel with Menses was more equal. Second half, he lost his way and little of what he tried panned out, slowing the play at times.
His biggest improvement to me was his speed when tracking back, but I agree, the general media observers notice the delicious details now and forget the more ineffective parts when summing up his games. The opposite was true at United, even though the United fans were some if the worst in that respect.
This is a bizarre take, as if Sancho has an instant switch to perform. He's improved Dortmund and while his performance in the first leg was outstanding, the rest of his spell in the CL/Bundesliga has been decent to good and not much more than that.
Even if it was true, I'd view it as a positive anyway. He's been cast out of the team, what does this guy want him to do? Sulk at Dortmund as well?
You’ve summed it up perfectly. I didn’t bother going into details of his performances in each half against Paris but that’s how I saw it too.
And to be honest I never thought Sancho was catastrophic with United. I thought he was underwhelming but not bad, I actually though his tracking back was decent and that he was a player lacking confidence with us.
But all the media posts designed to shit on United by explaining that he turned into prime Maradonna now that he left us is a bit baffling.
He looks a bit more applied and happier if anything, but his performances don’t look that much better or worse than at United
Sancho isn't good enough to justify this sort of special treatment at a club like United. If you're prime Messi or Ronaldo I can tolerate it but Jadon Sancho? No way.
Reading between the lines I assume he doesn't turn up to training on time and/or train properly which is a consistent theme everywhere he's been. If Dortmund want to put up with that then so be it but I don't want that sort of character here.
He has to be at 100% fitness and effort to be effective. Some players don't.
Explain last week then, he would be fitter and sharper now
I get that sentiment. But I honestly am not sure if United as a club is currently in a position to behave that way. There is not a single metric indicating that United currently is better than Dortmund, so why would United be above that when Dortmund isn't?
Overall it's a terrible situation either way.
Riches to Rags based on what Dortmund would pay him
Ronaldo was not only a narcissist (long-standing character-trait, which is rather more forgivable when you're scoring 50 goals a season and winning CLs) but one whose ego was writing cheques his body and form couldn't cash in the PL, ETH's system or not. Even his finishing had declined...
I agree. He wanted to leave in the summer, but not one CL club was willing to take him and I presume that's partly because he wasn't willing to accept a low salary offer.
Then in that last 3-4 months, he was a shadow of even his last season's version. Couldn't control a ball, couldn't run, couldn't finish, couldn't do anything.
And then, the interview was the point of no return. How are people expecting the club and the manager not to bin him after him saying "I don't respect the manager"?
Lot of revisionism going on about Ronaldo, partly because he's scoring 50 goals in a league where an amateur footballer could score a few goals per season.
Also: Even before ten Hag, he wasn't willing to do the bare minimum out of possession. You're never ever getting anywhere with a player like that in modern day football.
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