Leftback99
Oscar the Grouch.
- Joined
- Jan 11, 2015
- Messages
- 16,089
He'll be struggling for game time when Rashford is back.
Andre Silva and Modeste had good records there. Probably tells us that anything is possible.The Bundesliga is so open. Greenwood and Rashford would be scoring 30 goals a season over there.
He looks to me to be a player whose confidence has been shot by what happened at the Euros. A bit of time and patience will see him right.
But WHY does he lack confidence? It can't be the Euros because it was ages ago by now. It can't be because of the team he is in, because they are on a high after the signing of Ronaldo and have always had a good togetherness under Ole. It can't be Ole, because he is giving him plenty of opportunities and clearly wants him to do well. So what is up with him? Is it the pressure of United which has been the ruin of so many players before?A bit sad seeing him lack so much confidence, it seems to be etched across him.
I did like that he worked hard, he worked back and defended at times. No complaints with that, we just have to wait for adaptation and maybe for him to grab a goal or two.
People saying he played "ok". You expect more than just an "ok" performance every game when you supposedly bought one of the best young players in the world and payed top money for him.
We would probably have been better off spending that money on a CDM than on him in hindsight.
Yeah good point. All players' mentalities are identical and our team now is certainly treble winning calibre. Nice one.It was ages ago and has no bearing on United. Beckham NEVER let his Argentina sending off effect him for United, he won the treble after that. A lot of the other players in that current squad also have done fine since then. If he can't get over it, then why is he in football if he is so mentally weak?
Fourth start and the theatrics on here begins.
Typical. We genuinely have one of the most reactionary fanbases around.
I would imagine so? It's hard to say but he has that look about him. It is psuedo psychology to a certain extent but I'm guessing it's the fact he came off a Euros where he wasn't used, missed a penalty, so his recent experiences are poor and then the size of the club has hit him.But WHY does he lack confidence? It can't be the Euros because it was ages ago by now. It can't be because of the team he is in, because they are on a high after the signing of Ronaldo and have always had a good togetherness under Ole. What the Ole is giving him plenty of opportunities and clearly wants him to do well. So what is up with him? Is it the pressure of United which has been the ruin of so many players before?
But WHY does he lack confidence? It can't be the Euros because it was ages ago by now. It can't be because of the team he is in, because they are on a high after the signing of Ronaldo and have always had a good togetherness under Ole. What the Ole is giving him plenty of opportunities and clearly wants him to do well. So what is up with him? Is it the pressure of United which has been the ruin of so many players before?
Nice disengenuous post.Yeah good point. All players' mentalities are identical and our team now is certainly treble winning calibre. Nice one.
He's a youngster coming into a new side and league and it's his, what, fourth game? Give it a rest ffs.
I can't see it. Look at a young Rooney or a young Ronaldo. You see that they have something special everytime they play. I can't see it with this kid.It took Havertz well over half a season with Chelsea before he started to look any better than a pub footballer and he's still flattering to deceive in spite of his reputation.
It happens with young players coming in from abroad. Have faith!
Again, another poster saying this. I'm not saying any player is the same mentally, but it makes no sense that his confidence is apparently at rock bottom despite all the other positives he has at the club.Look at Mount and Chilwell at Chelsea. In a Champions League winning team and still look bereft of confidence. Players aren’t robots
Maybe bundesliga is actually a poor league. If you go there looking to buy an attacker anyway.
It was just over 2 months ago. Or something like 4 competitive games of football. I have no idea if that is what’s causing an issue for him but it’s hardly unreasonable to think he might struggle with the way the Euros ended, particularly as it was on home soil. As for the rest, he’s a human being. They all react differently. Would it be so hard to imagine a guy low on confidence would struggle to settle, especially after being ill during pre-season?It was ages ago and has no bearing on United. Beckham NEVER let his Argentina sending off effect him for United, he won the treble after that. A lot of the other players in that current squad also have done fine since then. If he can't get over it, then why is he in football if he is so mentally weak?
Not sure you understood what I was saying, because you're rephrasing the same stupid question again. To reiterate: players react differently to events depending upon personality type etc. So whether the other players have been affected is neither here nor there. It's how it's impacted him.Nice disengenuous post.
Nowhere did I say every player is the same. You couldn't even respond to what I actually said. How has the Euros effected him? It hasn't effected any of the other players it seems, they've been getting on with it.
He's 21 and has been a starter at one of Germany's biggest clubs, consistently raking in assists and chipping in with goals. He's not just some youngster, he is one of Europe's most established forwards. This isn't like Anthony Elanga making his debut last season. We've signed a player who is meant to take our attack to the next level, he's that good. Poor attempt at re-writing history.
Well, what are you offering as an explanation?Again, another poster saying this. I'm not saying any player is the same mentally, but it makes no sense that his confidence is apparently at rock bottom despite all the other positives he has at the club.
Its a bit of a shock to see how poor his been. We were all told on here by many that he was miles better than Rashford and Greenwood. Many were saying he was a Mbappe level talent. Sometimes you see a cow in a field quote springs to mind.I can't see it. Look at a young Rooney or a young Ronaldo. You see that they have something special everytime they play. I can't see it with this kid.
The most concerning part is his conditioning, big move and he turns up badly out of shape, an immediate red flag.
Its a bit of a shock to see how poor his been. We were all told on here by many that he was miles better than Rashford and Greenwood. Many were saying he was a Mbappe level talent. Sometimes you see a cow in a field quote springs to mind.
Still waiting for the "ah, Thats why we signed him" moment.. hopefully it comes soon
I thought he was one of our better players tonight. He created some dangerous situations with incisive running and passing, was our most threatening player behind Greenwood when he came on.
I agree. This thread is weird. We saw more examples of his touch, vision and passing ability than in every other match combined so far. I thought it was an encouraging performance