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You know with United it is going to be a long summer. They know how Dortmund are, so surely they have planned how to deal with them.
Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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You know with United it is going to be a long summer. They know how Dortmund are, so surely they have planned how to deal with them.
Tesco have confirmed the below story and they're tier 1 for my shopping list.
My body is ready for the inevitable positive Amad/Pellistri development spin stories in a couple of weeks.
Sanch-who?
Sanch-who?
Can't get excited about this one knowing it doesn't really help in what let us down last season
This would be the cherry on top of the cake type signing rather than the filling for me
This would be the cherry on top of the cake type signing rather than the filling for me
Not playing tomorrow night for England.
So take it the medical is tomorrow then?
So take it the medical is tomorrow then?
feck sponge, sponge is shit. I want a cake made entirely of icing
You don't think lack of creativity and having other quality options to break down teams let us down last season? Come on, this is a vital ingredient to the cake!
Done Dealeo!
Wrapped up prior to the Euros, right? Surely Dortmund want to get things sorted sooner rather than later. Maybe we've learned that spending 3 months haggling over a few million does not work with Dortmund (or Leicester).
Well the previous tweet claimed we are unsure how to approach the situation
We might be a bit further out yet!
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How about picking up the phone and trying talking?
Well the previous tweet claimed we are unsure how to approach the situation
We might be a bit further out yet!
I didn't notice that
Time for the "new structure" to show things have improved.
Time to send the closers again.
No way. We drew 11 times this season because we’re bursting to the brim with creativity. We don’t need this cherry on the top.
Joel Glazer needs to pay what Dortmund want or we need to look elsewhere. It's really as simple as that. As far as Dortmund are concerned there's no negotiations but rather a set price.I didn't notice that
Time for the "new structure" to show things have improved.
Yes, exactly. But the real question is, was that "structural change" a facelift or a meaningful professionalisation of club operations.
Sancho night off to an unpredictable start.
The structural change was to do with identifying talent mostly. Signing players wouldn't be difficult if Joel Glazer allows the likes of Woodward or Judge to work with a budget. But he doesn't, hence every little detail has to be communicated to Joel across the pond which slows everything down. And that has been reported by Simon Stone, James Ducker and very recently Jonathan Northcroft of The Times.
That is a very depressing read.
This is why I stopped criticising Woodward. Until the disease is attacked there's little point attacking the symptoms.
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Very informative. The owners are even worse than I thought. Signing Cavani on the final transfer day now makes much more sense.
Oh, I'm not sure it's all on the Glazers (I mean ultimately it is, as they decide the personnel). There's been significant reports about Woodward's and Judge's ineptitude.
I mean if you have two people who have zero experience in football, you'd expect hiccups. And we've seen that. Let's imagine we've got best in class doing our bidding, but still needing final say from the Glazers. That still doesn't explain months of "negotiating" and posturing, until finally paying the price quoted months prior.
I am expecting them to not only identify and avoid alienating potential recruits, but to also increase the efficiency with which we conduct ourselves in the market, making signings earlier, without panic. Otherwise the change is pretty limited. Unless I'm mistaken I think we've always had a head scout, so it would indicate that the momentous change was more of an ambassadorial appointment when it comes to transfers.
Simon Stone explained all this in a BBC podcast when we eventually signed Maguire. He said that the the reason it was dragging was due to the fact that Joel wouldn't allow the negotiating team to go above a certain amount. That meant that Judge kept upping the bid slightly whilst going back and forth with Joel, who was in a different time-zone. Leicester refused to relent and after weeks of back and forth with Joel he agreed to release the funds. James Ducker reported similar.
I have to disagree, lack of depth up in the forward positions killed us, from Martial missing sitters dropping us out of the CL, to Rashford being injured, Greenwood up and down with form, not to mention everyone being dead on their feet towards the end of the season.
More quality in the front line would be a huge boost for next season.
I missed that. Still don't feel it explains fully how that takes months.
Side note, will be interesting to see what Joel comes up with in a few days.
These stories about agreeing personal terms but not with the actual club are always the most irritating.
Meaningless really.
Meaningless really.
Joel tells the negotiating team to haggle to the very end is the impression I get. The lady running the football department at Chelsea seems to get deals done fine without having a footballing back ground. But she's greatly helped by Abramovich dipping into his own pockets too.
Hopefully the protests have had some affect on Joel, because if we want to sign Sancho, then we will have to pay what Dortmund want.
85m euros is a reasonable price for Sancho. It is slightly higher than Havertz, as it should be. Their demands for €120m from last summer were insane.
Are United fans done with protesting?
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The only sensible thing to do is wait it out till the last week of August and enquire about a 45M bid.
One would think a bid of around €85m will be enough for Dortmund to sell in the current market. But the issue is will Joel release the funds is the question. Last season it was reported that Joel pulled the plug on the deal, 3 weeks before the end of the transfer window.
I hope we keep on protesting because our owners are really bad from a purely footballing stand point.
Yeah that's pretty much how most UK firms owned by a US group work. Every penny spent goes up to a ridiculous level for approval. I can 100% see that being a major issue for us. Plenty of those on the fly deals Fergie seemed to make wouldn't have happened now I'd bet.
Given the amounts involved you could argue it's fair but a level of autonomy is required in all business to function properly.
Let us down for what though? We finished 2nd well behind a far better squad and coach but well in front the others, but were let down in cups for various reasons.
CL - carelessness against Istanbul, and then Leipzig started more motivated than us in the final game and held on in the end. The PSG games were 50/50's that ended up going against us because of a red card. Overall, we should've gone through the group stage without any change in squad or coaching IMO. It was carelessness more than anything.
EL - lack of cutting edge in attack, quality depth on both the wings, an attacking balance of creativity and shooting rather than pure shooters, set piece coaching.
FA Cup - squad depth, fixture congestion
EFL Cup - Squad depth, stepping up to the occasion
I know what you mean but generally think it's harsh to say we were let down much overall, apart from the final. Generally though, the biggest problems with us I'd say are:
- Set piece defending - 100% on the coaching
- Attacking balance (lack of creators on the wings) - Sancho sorts that out
- Midfield solidity - we need a true holding midfielder
- Midfield control - we need a deep lying playmaker
- Center back partner for Maguire
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We know we haven’t made a bit yet, but did we start preparing one? The preparing part is what takes a while usually.
The club were absolutely right not to sign him for 120m last summer. That would have been a criminally irresponsible amount of money to spend on one player during a pandemic where nobody had a clue what would happen in the future.
I agree. I'm just saying the deals will only go as quick as Joel Glazer allows.
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