jeff_goldblum
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Hehe....civilian deaths were off course happening, as were those of militants. Still, we got staggeringly "accurate" figures in real time about the proportions of civilian casualties. Talk about unfounded speculation. The same media outlets fed their audiences willfully with Hamas propaganda, not caring one bit for that integrity you mentioned in your previous post.
The people of Israel in Israel did not take anyone's land. The images from the Jerusalem massacre today are no different to those of the 1929 Hebron massacre, before annexation, land theft, Israeli government policies or any of the other shite you've been spoon fed. Google it if you share Kaos' allergy to Israeli sources. Even the incitement is the same...the Jews attack the sacred Jerusalem mosques.
Those figures largely came from estimates by aid organisations such as the Red Cross and the UN, not 'Hamas-propaganda'. Once again, this notion that the media is biased against Israel is ridiculous. Also, using 'Protective Edge' as a justification for how Israeli actions are misinterpreted by the media is mind-boggling.
From your second paragraph, your initial statement isn't true. The size of Palestinian territory has reduced dramatically in the last 50 years. In 1967 Israel controlled 78% of the land, in 1995 87% and in 2006 90% with Gaza and the West Bank being occupied territories since the 1990s. So yes, modern Israelis have taken Palestinian land and the sovereignty they used to hold over that land. Whilst obviously nothing condones violence like what we saw in Jerusalem, i's incredibly naive to think that there would be anywhere near as much Palestinian antipathy towards Israel if that history of oppression wasn't there. Similarities between one single modern atrocity and one in 1929 doesn't prove anything.
@Fearless - off the top of my head, the reason the partition agreement was turned down was because it proposed giving a Jewish population who owned 8% of the land sovereignty over 55% of the land. I wouldn't have taken that deal either.